TEXIT? Texas lawmakers consider Brexit
like move in wake of socialism trend:
’This is not about war’
BizPac Review,
by
Jon Dougherty
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
1/12/2021 11:35:05 AM
Lawmakers in Texas say they are considering pursuing a Brexit-like movement as an alternative to living under what they see as rising Democratic socialism, and they say lawmakers in other states have shown a similar interest.“This is not about war, this is not about actually seceding from the United States,” state Rep. Kyle Biedermann (R) told Newsmax TV’s Chris Salcedo on Monday after praising Americans from around the country for “standing up” and expressing themselves following the election.“This is about the beginning of a process, an act, just like Brexit,” he continued, referencing Great Britain’s separation from the European Union.“Brexit was a vote of the people
Reply 1 - Posted by:
PlayItAgain 1/12/2021 11:45:34 AM (No. 658028)
I do believe that all states need to modify their constitutions to firm up our election laws. Without this, we're toast.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
chance_232 1/12/2021 11:57:31 AM (No. 658032)
The United States is a union of 50 SOVEREIGN states. All of whom voluntarily joined said Union. Despite what the Supreme declared, there is nothing in the constitution that says a state can not leave. Claiming otherwise is ludicrous in light of the first sentence of the Declaration establishing said Union.
"When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature's God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation."
The union is not a suicide pact. The union was founded on the principles of self determination, liberty, equal "justice" and protecting the rights of the minority. When a handful of states have sufficient electoral power to run roughshod over the others, and when there is no place to turn for redress, separation becomes necessary.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
anniebc 1/12/2021 11:59:26 AM (No. 658033)
The US Constitution is for a moral people. The deep state has destroyed morality in our country. I'm down with succession. We'll take PDT, and they can keep sleepy and sleep around.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
jimincalif 1/12/2021 12:11:21 PM (No. 658047)
Interesting idea. However based on COVID reactions I'm concerned that many red-state governors are either RINOs, or just wimpy. There are a few standouts, such as DeSantis and Noem. Strong defense of states' rights should be the defining issue in upcoming gubernatorial elections.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
sunshinehorses 1/12/2021 12:18:53 PM (No. 658055)
Hubby and I both agree that we would love to move to Texas. Unfortunately until he retires, that is probably not a reality. AZ used to be like that, but too many Cali's moved in.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Venturer 1/12/2021 12:22:38 PM (No. 658058)
I spent some time in Texas when I was stationed at Ft. Sam Houston.
Nice place Nice People.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Skinnydip 1/12/2021 12:24:12 PM (No. 658063)
Whatever it takes. I'm ready.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
anniebc 1/12/2021 12:26:21 PM (No. 658066)
Texas lawmakers may be signaling to their people that they will fight for them. What about your state and mine? I think it's time to find out.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Edgelady 1/12/2021 12:30:44 PM (No. 658072)
Native Texas, 6th generation. When you grow up here you don't think about it much, but when watching a documentary on ZZ Top on Netflix one of their managers said how "these guys are different, not going to follow the crowd, very independent" and he was flummoxed while managing them. Then he said he grew to learn and realize they were all from Texas, and Texans fought for their freedom from Mexico and became an Independent Nation, and they were different to their core. Texas has its own electrical grid, and when the US got off the gold standard, Texas did not. We have our own bunch of gold. It's quite a natural reaction for us to go "Ummm, wait a minute - we didn't fight to become a part of this!"
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
hurricanegirl 1/12/2021 12:38:18 PM (No. 658089)
The same idea goes for a state (or states) that goes for a group of people trying to take back their freedom: You either make a definitive move or you forget it. In other words, the state of Texas best not pussyfoot around and do things halfway. The crapweasel dictators of America mean to enslave and kill us, and they're not going to dillydally around while we organize to stop them. Comprende?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
udanja99 1/12/2021 12:42:53 PM (No. 658096)
I live in South Carolina. This state started it last time and I’m happy for us to join in this time.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
thekidsmom66 1/12/2021 12:58:29 PM (No. 658111)
#5 they've been invading our state (TX) like crazy, trying to do the same!
That said, I would give anything if we, maybe joined by some other conservative states, would actually do this!!
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
bad-hair 1/12/2021 1:11:17 PM (No. 658120)
Well Good Morning America
For those of you who don't realize it The Republic of Texas consists of ...
Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Nebraska, South Dakota, North Dakota, Montana, Alberta (Canada), Saskatchewan (Canada), Manitoba(Canada).
Let's go EAST. Louisiana, Mississippi. Alabama, and Florida.
That's every seaport in the Gulf of Mexico and more oil than the Saudis ever dreamed of. That's Spaceports and medical research facilities AND WE WILL DEFEND OUR BORDERS.
Let California and New York print their own damn money. Let Chicago shoot themselves to death with their restricted hand guns. If you show up at The Republic of Texas you had better have a pre-approved visa in your US passport.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Ribicon 1/12/2021 1:19:22 PM (No. 658131)
"Any people, anywhere, being inclined and having the power, have the right to rise up and shake off the existing government, and form a new one that suits them better. This is a most valuable and most sacred right—a right which we hope and believe is to liberate the world. Nor is this right confined to cases in which the whole people of an existing government may choose to exercise it. Any portion of such people, that can may revolutionize and make their own of so many of the territory as they inhabit." Abraham Lincoln, Jan. 12, 1848
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
NYbob 1/12/2021 1:26:28 PM (No. 658132)
You are right #14, but that violent reaction is coming no matter what anyone does. If this precipitates picking up sides, let's go. Better to see exactly who is against us and go toe to toe, win or lose, than wait another generation for idiots who never knew a great country, settle for being slaves to a corrupt state.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
kono 1/12/2021 1:33:09 PM (No. 658134)
A Texit not about secession? Good luck differentiating the two, especially in the enemedia.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
moebellini3 1/12/2021 1:58:20 PM (No. 658166)
Either this or something else. We can no longer tolerate stolen elections that will take our freedoms away. We look at Cuba and we look at Venezuela, an island and a country, both had great economies before their elections were stolen and they were forced into socialism. We can not tolerate that starting here. Democrats have sold the souls of their children to their socialist party, we can never do the same. Got it...
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fta "The U.S. Supreme Court decided in 1869 in a case, ironically enough, involving the Lone Star State, that secession was unconstitutional. In Texas v. White, the court ruled the U.S. is “an indestructible union” and that no state is entitled to leave once it joins the union of states."
According to the 1869 Supreme court all states are occupied territory and have no rights other than what the federal government allows. Another way to describe this is slavery.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
hurricanegirl 1/12/2021 2:52:02 PM (No. 658222)
So, tell me #19, why do we care what the Supreme Court says? They told us we "don't have standing" to present any cases of voter fraud to them. Remember?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
stablemoney 1/12/2021 3:09:54 PM (No. 658233)
I am so ready to get a divorce from the Democrats that I will consider anything.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
WV.Hillbilly 1/12/2021 3:13:30 PM (No. 658239)
"You can go to Hell. I'm going to Texas."
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Thos Weatherby 1/12/2021 3:17:45 PM (No. 658243)
#`1 We already had election laws. They didn't follow those so why waste our time just making more?
I doubt if any state would actually leave.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Chuzzles 1/12/2021 3:20:00 PM (No. 658246)
As I recall from about 20 years ago, Texas had as a condition for joining the Union that they could keep their constitution intact. That included the right to secede anytime they saw fit.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Aubreyesque 1/12/2021 4:44:24 PM (No. 658298)
A good book to read for Texas history: Lone Star by T. R. Fehrenbach. A fair history of all those involved.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Aubreyesque 1/12/2021 4:47:51 PM (No. 658300)
My apologies for a second post, but the fact that the USSC told Texans they didnt have standing, they tacitly agreed that we are not beholden to them to remain in the Union. This is equivalent to Santa Ana getting elected into his government (a government that copied the US Constitution) and then trashing it to become dictator because "his people" (that included the Texians of Tejas y Coahuila) were too stupid to govern themselves.
The USSC said it, not Texans. As far as this Texan is concerned, Ive been given the go ahead.
EAGLES UP.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Cherrybark 1/12/2021 5:21:14 PM (No. 658312)
"I'll see your "Wash DC as a state" and raise you four new Texas."
Uniquely among U.S. states, Texas was admitted to the Union with a pre-approved ‘entitlement’ to further divide itself into up to five states should it choose to do so. All in all, I've had more than enough of this decrepit Union and am looking forward to a time where like minded states formed, "a more perfect union."
https://www.honestaustin.com/2018/08/15/texas-split-divide-into-five-states/
Howdy from Deep in the Piney Woods.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Mike22 1/12/2021 5:26:59 PM (No. 658321)
Take Arizona, Nevada, Idaho, Montana, Northeastern California, Eastern Washington, Eastern Oregon as well. Give Las Vegas to California, Disallow voting by anyone that moved from coastal California, Chicago (Arizona) and the Northeast - NY, Boston, Baltimore for 30+ years - if they ever voted Democrat ....... Accept Idaho if they send Romney and all his friends back to Massachusetts in disgrace. Require voter ID, paper ballots and purple fingers (maybe the middle one as a salute to the coastal self-anointed elites?). Restore traditional civics instruction in K-12. Covering questions like why slaves only counted as 3/5ths of a person (to make sure the southern states did not rule the House) Point out that oh-so-holy Britain did not ban slavery until 1833 and they were still wiping out aboriginal people all over the globe until the late 1800s and early 1900s and that they supported the south in the civil war. Cover the founders on the second amendment (everyone may and should be armed with weapons equivalent to the common infantry weapon of the day). Note that private citizens were allowed to own warships and canons. Banish all liberal arts professors who preach leftism back to Yale and Harvard and other liberal edens from whence they sprang.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Borderboy 1/12/2021 5:36:44 PM (No. 658330)
Wonder why this took so long?
Must read!
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 1/12/2021 5:39:29 PM (No. 658333)
Please God, allow us to do this!
I'm NEVER going to call Joke Bidet my pResident.
Benedict 'Beijing' Biden is a CHEATER and a FRAUD.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
RuckusTom 1/12/2021 6:01:01 PM (No. 658353)
Some of the smaller of the 13 original colonies wouldn't join the US unless the electoral college wasn't available. Had that not been provided some of those "states" might very will be independent nations. Texas was a Republic before joining the US. I don't see any reason why a State can't secede and form their own country if they want to unless it's in one of the Amendments after the original 12.
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