GOP state senator hails 'great patriot'
Robert E. Lee following removal
of statue from U.S. Capitol
Washington Times,
by
Andrew Blake
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
12/23/2020 10:40:19 AM
Wendy Rogers, a Republican state senator-elect for Arizona, lumped praise on Robert E. Lee, calling the late Confederate general a “great patriot” in a series of social media posts made about him Monday. Ms. Rogers, a former Air Force pilot, made the remarks after the removal that morning from the U.S. Capitol building of a statue honoring Lee, who led the Confederate Army during the American Civil War. "Robert E Lee was a great patriot and a great leader. They are not just tearing him down. They are coming after all of us. Get involved now. You could be next,” Ms. Rogers posted on Twitter.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Ribicon 12/23/2020 10:41:26 AM (No. 639829)
FTA: "Ms. Rogers continued to post in defense of Lee throughout the day, including a tweet claiming the Confederate general 'loved our country' more than several current Democratic congresswomen she named. Specifically, Ms. Rogers alleged that Lee was more patriotic than Democratic Reps. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York, Ilhan Omar of Minnesota and Rashida Talib of Minnesota, among others. 'Robert E Lee served his country and his state which is more than most of these socialist imposters have done,' Ms. Rogers tweeted afterward."
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Rather Read 12/23/2020 11:05:57 AM (No. 639843)
She will be cancelled for sure. From what I've studied, I can say that Robert E. Lee was a good man and a superb general. He stands way higher in honor than just about any congresscritter I can think of. Was he flawless? No but he was a good man, a very good man.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Quigley 12/23/2020 11:11:40 AM (No. 639850)
Lee was confronted with a tidal wave intentionally created by the Dimokkkrap Party in their unbridled lust for power and greed.
As usual their ilk sanctimously crow about their own virtues while steeping in their soiled diapers.
I keep wondering if the Gullibles will ever get woke to the the dims.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
John C 12/23/2020 11:16:06 AM (No. 639854)
I admire her comments about the great General and her comments about the crappy congress women
who occupy the House.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
sciteach 12/23/2020 11:18:48 AM (No. 639857)
Lee fought for the United States in the Mexican War and served with distinction. I believe he was also the one who captured John Brown and put down his "rebellion" against the United States. Lincoln offered Lee command of the Union Armies when he called for volunteers to fight the rebles. Lee, after much thought, felt that he could not take up arms against his home state of Virginia. After four years of bloody war Grant treated Lee with the utmost repsect at Arlington. Furthurmore, Lee rejected any idea of carrying on the war as guerrila fighters. He told his troops to go home and go on with their lives; it was over. After the war Lee worked for reconciliation between the North and South. He was president of, I believe, Washington and Lee University.
The point is history and the people who make up history are complicated. It is so wrong to rate Lee soley on the fact that he fought for the South. To this day it is debatable whether the states could legally secede. (Yes, I know the Supreme Court said no but look at some of their decisions and take that for what it's worth.) This cancel culture nonsense is a bunch of illiterates who look at history and people in a context created by them and those who just hate this country and it's past. Miss Rogers is absolutely correct to protest the removal of his statue. Removing it is a sign of a people who neither know or care about the history of this country.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rama41 12/23/2020 11:34:21 AM (No. 639864)
The Civil War, like photo ID for voting, is now another electric fence issue: touch it and you die. Rogers is right and deserves our support. Gettysburg hosted "The Great Reconciliation" in 1913 and, again, in 1938. They're still on YouTube, at least they were the last time I checked. Time to step in before the only two dates in history that will matter will be 1619 and 2009.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
sanspeur 12/23/2020 11:51:39 AM (No. 639880)
Lee surrendered @ Appomattox .Arlington , Lee’s estate by marriage was won by Union forces because it commanded the heights overlooking DC and finally , mostly through efforts of M Meigs became first a Freeman camp , then The National Cemetery . It was just recompense for Lee’s actions and personally an enormous cost .
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
HerbVA 12/23/2020 12:20:54 PM (No. 639896)
The good lady from Arizona defends Gen. Lee, but the p#$sy Virginia congressional delegation says nothing.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
RayLRiv 12/23/2020 1:42:09 PM (No. 639938)
Lee's 'Definition Of A Gentleman,' a memorandum found in his desk after he passed away:
“The forbearing use of power does not only form a touchstone, but the manner in which an individual enjoys certain advantages over others is a test of a true gentleman. The power which the strong have over the weak, the employer over the employed, the educated over the unlettered, the experienced over the confiding, even the clever over the silly — the forbearing or inoffensive use of all this power or authority, or a total abstinence from it when the case admits it, will show the gentleman in a plain light. The gentleman does not needlessly and unnecessarily remind an offender of a wrong he may have committed against him. He cannot only forgive, he can forget; and he strives for that nobleness of self and mildness of character which impart sufficient strength to let the past be but the past. A true man of honor feels humbled himself when he cannot help humbling others.”
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
zoidberg 12/23/2020 2:02:48 PM (No. 639954)
Lee was a patriot for the Commonwealth of Virginia, but a traitor to the United States.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Ashley Brenton 12/23/2020 2:05:24 PM (No. 639956)
Resigning your commission and then taking up arms to preserve the institution of slavery is hardly patriotic. The Confederacy was just a bunch of nasty Democrats who refused to accept the outcome of an election. Just like Democrats are now
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
red1066 12/23/2020 4:19:20 PM (No. 640015)
Lee accepted the generalship of the confederacy because he was from Virginia and Virginia was his country not just a state. It was not an unusual perception from southerners to view the state they were from as their homeland. It took many years after the Civil War for the concept of The United States consisting of a united collection of states became a popular view. But even in the south a hundred years after the Civil War, the perception was still state first among many southern residents.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
ThreeBadCats3 12/23/2020 4:21:20 PM (No. 640016)
There is a lot of information about John Brown in the third Fredrick Douglass autobiography, in the great triad of Douglass autobiographies recently released by the Library of America. Brown wanted Douglass to join in the rebellion, but fortunately, Douglass recognized the futility of the effort. Still, both were really great men.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 12/23/2020 5:03:03 PM (No. 640038)
#12 is correct about men considering their state as their homeland. Look at how both sides named their units...34th Georgia, 101st Pennsylvania. etc.. The South's biggest reason for seceding was indeed the preservation of slavery but there were other reasons they left. For one, the men who led the secession had heard their grandfathers talk about how we kicked the Brits out when their rule became overbearing. Considering the unfair tariffs that the South suffered under for years and you can see where they thought secession was the only alternative. I think most people in the South or North never thought that Lincoln would start a bloody, illegal war that would cost the lives of 600,000 soldiers and God knows how many civilians.
The North went to war for that oldest of reasons...money. It was certainly not to free the slaves at the time. The US would lose the tariffs that ran the government at that time plus lose the warm water ports. The NY and Boston ports were almost not navigable in the winter months. The wooden ships of the time couldn't handle the ice so there go all the import/export duties and the northern businessmen were screaming at Lincoln to subjugate the South.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
kono 12/23/2020 8:29:02 PM (No. 640165)
The great historian Shelby Foote aptly noted that until the end of the Civil War, "the United States" was a plural term, and afterwards it was a singular. Ones home state came before ones country during Lee's lifetime. Not many people today can even fathom what that was like, yet we feel entitled to sit in judgment of people from that time.
Before you judge someone, walk a mile in their shoes, the wisdom says. We haven't even walked in their century, let alone in their shoes.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
chumley 12/23/2020 8:37:55 PM (No. 640168)
We were set up as a loose conglomeration of sovereign states. Your loyalty was to your state, not the conglomeration. That concept was ruined later and the states became nothing more than counties. Lee was a great man and deserves our admiration and his statues.
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