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Posted By: Imright, 1/28/2020 8:43:37 AM

Much has been spoken and written lately regarding the evangelical community's feelings toward President Trump, especially since the Christianity Today editorial calling for his removal from office was published last month. Many evangelicals continue to support him wholeheartedly because he has proven repeatedly that he can be trusted to keep his campaign promises and to govern faithfully and conservatively. Others vow never to support him because they feel that he "embodies the anti-Christian ethic."President Trump certainly has a "colorful" past, and that is the key reason why I did not support him in the Republican presidential primary of 2016. I just couldn't imagine

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Italiano 1/28/2020 8:54:00 AM (No. 300261)
Who has done more to support Christian values and religious freedom: The "heathen" Donald Trump or the Evangelical George W. ("Islam is a Religion of Peace") Bush? Not even close.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: southernboy 1/28/2020 8:54:49 AM (No. 300264)
""President Trump certainly has a "colorful" past, and that is the key reason why I did not support him ..." How judgemental we are these days. Name a US President who didn't have "a colorful past!" In many cases a "colorful present!"
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Reply 3 - Posted by: chance_232 1/28/2020 9:07:17 AM (No. 300280)
Re#2..... im thinking thst future President Pence is as vanilla as they come. He's actually criticized for not hanging out with women alone.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Clinger 1/28/2020 9:10:38 AM (No. 300287)
I hate to be a cynic but I can only be absolutely certain of the fidelity of one man on the planet. Basing our decisions on what we think we know to be factual about someones personal character leaves us wide open to someone with far worse human flaws yet with far better better cover. If someone voted against Obama because they didn't approve of his bathhouse behavior that was the wrong reason. The communism, now that matters. We have to vote based on policy. I was a Cruz supporter in the primary because I had the most confidence that he represented constitutional policy. He could be a player of epic proportion but since he's a professional politician he would know how to cover his trail.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bamboozle 1/28/2020 9:17:00 AM (No. 300298)
President Trump like King David had significant personal moral issues but both seem in the end to have done God's will. The Democrat alternative is too ugly to contemplate no matter which clown gets the nomination.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Jerseyden 1/28/2020 9:27:45 AM (No. 300310)
How anyone with any Christian beliefs could vote for a dem is beyond me. Any party that supports the killing of babies and Gov control of your life should worry us all.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 1/28/2020 9:34:53 AM (No. 300317)
What did the supposed "evangelical" politicians that we elected year, after year, after year ever do to help our cause? Conservative judges? Stand for the right to life? Protect religious freedom? We have had nothing but uniparty results for decades! I'll take a colorful politician who honors campaign promises any day over an evangelical liar.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: john56 1/28/2020 9:38:37 AM (No. 300323)
The Lord works in strange and mysterious ways, that's for sure.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Hazymac 1/28/2020 10:00:08 AM (No. 300347)
Trump is a good illustration of 1 Corinthians 1:27-28 (KJV): "27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty; 28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are." As a disciple (really) of William F. Buckley, I didn't warm to Trump until shortly before the 2016 election (I have made up for that deficiency since then.) His style is not my style. But dammit, he's effective, his policies are mostly conservative, and he's getting things done that presidents of neither party had the nerve, the effrontery, to do. (Two quick examples are the relocation of our Israeli embassy to Jerusalem and the utterly remarkable successful wooing of major manufacturing thought to be gone forever back into the United States.) President Trump has done something even more important. He of the sharp elbows and rough edges has trolled the Democrats magnificently, and their masks have fallen right off their faces, revealing them for what they truly are: inveterate totalitarians, dissembling all the while. Schiff, Nadler, Her Thighness, Sanders, Schumer, Pelosi, AOC ... what a toxic collection of losers pandering to fellow losers, trying to make a majority out it, counting non-citizens' votes as if they were legal.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: NorthernDog 1/28/2020 10:22:55 AM (No. 300375)
Yes - God moves in mysterious ways. St. Peter's language could sometimes make a longshoreman blush. John the Baptist dressed like a wild man of Borneo. Winston Churchill vowed to save Christendom while drinking like a fish and smoking like a chimney. I could go on ....
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Sunhan65 1/28/2020 10:48:46 AM (No. 300397)
I read somewhere that Trump the businessman was asked for the secret of his success. He replied, "Find out what the people want and give it to them." There was only one way Donald Trump was ever going to become president. He needed to find a group of people who weren't getting what they want and become their candidate. So he tackled things that no one else was willing to: phoney environmentalism, corrupt perpetual politicians, manipulative media, and lawless immigration. He made our issues his issues and became our champion. During the primaries, some foreign students asked me why the upstarts were doing so well. I said "because Americans don't like their politicians right now. Bernie looks less like a politician than Hillary, and Donald Trump doesn't look like a politician at all." He wasn't. He beat the politicians at their own game. And now he's rewriting the rulebook. Like the invaluable #9, I had real doubts about Trump. I was sure he would lose the election, and I was afraid he would sell us out if he won. He didn't. I've never been so wrong about politics in my life, and I've never been so delighted. In all this, I've learned two things. First, I don't fully understand President Trump no matter how much I support him. And, second, to never, ever underestimate him.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: ARKfamily 1/28/2020 11:03:00 AM (No. 300415)
You know what my role is as a Christian? To make certain I follow in His ways not my own. I do that by reading the Bible from start to finish. In that same line of thinking, my view of what a religious leader should be doing has changed also. I think their primary role is to get people in the Bible and connecting to God. Yes, I know it is important to go to church but I think it goes beyond that. It is not my job to cleanse other people - only God can do that. Given that, I intended to vote for Scott Walker or Ben Carson so it is such a nice surprise to see Donald Trump concerned about America and not just himself. I was quite concerned he was a Democrat lite but that was a media-created image.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: columba 1/28/2020 11:05:48 AM (No. 300418)
I have a hammer. With that tool I have built and/or dismantled many things. God has tools too and uses them. Mr. Trump is a man, and like the rest of us, he is not a saint. However, he is the right man at the right time.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Chuzzles 1/28/2020 11:12:48 AM (No. 300430)
One only needs to look into the histories of the people that make up the ancestry of Jesus to find some pretty interesting folks in that lineup. Like Rahab for one. Ruth the Moabite for another. David was a man after God's own heart. The Bible is full of imperfect people that God made use of to do good for the world. As to Dubya comparisons, he and his family are so marinated in the ME thanks to their oil business ties that the majority of the purge to avoid a coup in SA included many Saudi friends of the Bush family, and Saudis who were allowed by the Bush family to use our own State Department as a conduit for globalist funding of terror. The Saudi King and Trump pulled a mighty big plug on Swamp off the books funding when that purge happened. Decency and character is important in a Leader, and Trump has both in spades. I don't tend to listen to most of those who profess to be Christians, to me they bend to the world, and that makes them Churchians, not Christians.. To have watched the destruction of the globalist legacy that was being built by Poppy Bush while he was still alive was bizarrely satisfying to me. A big reason why Dubya hates Trump I suspect. He destroyed the Bush globalist objective and that would not make the Bush clan or the elites happy under any circumstances.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: zuker5 1/28/2020 11:16:38 AM (No. 300433)
The old saying, "A sign doesn't actually have to make the trip, to help people get where they want to go", seems apt.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: ARKfamily 1/28/2020 11:18:24 AM (No. 300435)
Sorry for the second post but I think I need to clarify. There are some people who go to church regularly but never pick up the Bible. Sometimes I think the Pastor, Priest, or Minister becomes so focused on their sermons, attendance or financial issues that getting a congregation member to read the Bible (beginning to end) gets lost in the message. The Bible is so rich in information especially a Life Application Bible. It is my understanding that Donald Trump does prayer sessions. I can't help but let my wander to Mike Pence and his guidance. I do not view Mike Pence as a "vanilla" kind of guy but probably someone very concerned for following in His ways.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: linkay6 1/28/2020 11:40:10 AM (No. 300464)
I have seen many comparisons if President Trump to Cyrus. I agree. So many say he's non-Christian, but who's to say he's any worse than any other presidents? It's just he's been more visible than they were. And he's cleaning the swamp and keeping his promises! I'm very thankful he is our president!
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Reply 18 - Posted by: lil dotty 1/28/2020 11:48:27 AM (No. 300480)
Any who question "Why this man" are directed to our Bibles to learn "Why Not?" IF YOU THINK GOD CAN'T USE YOU, REMEMBER: https://i.pinimg.com/564x/31/21/ec/3121ec449ce8b89eac4d52d29f3e576b.jpg
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Southron 1/28/2020 11:50:41 AM (No. 300482)
Remember Saul of Tarsus? He rec'd revelations from Our Lord on the road to Demascus. Being an powerful persecutor of Christians (and personally responsible for the martyrdom of countless) he was released from his perfidious past and transformed personally by Christ. Per Trump's "colorful" past, don't you think we should give this great president a pass?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: BillW. 1/28/2020 1:40:53 PM (No. 300592)
We've been saying all along he wasn't hired to be a saint. --Vets for Trump 2020
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Proud Texan 1/28/2020 1:46:34 PM (No. 300597)
Any "Christian" who refuses to support President Donald Trump just because he wasn't perfect needs to remember why Jesus came to earth. If men were perfect, we wouldn't have needed him to save us.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: MeiDei 1/28/2020 3:40:08 PM (No. 300705)
Were there no 0bama there might not be a President Trump, that's how I look at it. Secondly, I pray for him to operate within God's Will daily. His safety, and that of his family, is always considered important.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Timber Queen 1/28/2020 3:52:08 PM (No. 300713)
Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: SALady 1/29/2020 4:31:07 AM (No. 301063)
I didn't vote for Donald Trump for Pope of the USA. I voted for him for president of the USA. Has he always been a saint -- no! Have I -- no! Is President Trump a thousand times more moral than any Demon-Rat currently running -- most definitely yes!!!! Unless Jesus decides to come back and run for president, Donald Trump is the best we can hope for given the people that are running today!!! And that is good enough for me!!!!!
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Faithfully 1/29/2020 10:18:18 AM (No. 301321)
12 Getting people to read the Bible is a good. Getting people to understand the Bible and AGREE on its meaning is another thing.
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