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IG Horowitz hearing exposes
deliberate FBI misconduct
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Posted By: MissMolly, 12/12/2019 4:17:06 AM

When the FBI discovered that the anti-Trump Steele dossier was garbage, the bureau concealed that vital evidence. Instead of promptly terminating its surveillance of Donald Trump’s former campaign adviser Carter Page, the FBI persisted in its quest to prove a Trump-Russia “collusion” conspiracy that officials knew was unsupported by credible evidence.(Snip)It is not remotely plausible to dismiss this appalling conduct as sloppy or careless work. It cannot be minimized (or trivialized) as just a case of “performance failures,” as Horowitz would have us believe.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 12/12/2019 6:18:40 AM (No. 259665)
And is Wray any better. He has been handed a document that says the FBI exhibited all the professionalism and diligence of a bunch of 3rd graders playing FBI agents and he thinks all that is needed is some corrective memos? This is an horrendous scandal and, as suggested by Barr and Dunham, is criminal. No bureaucratic memo can fix this. There needs to be criminal prosecution and NEW LAW that BINDS the FBI under criminal penalties from behaving like this. We had put our trust in them to act with the best interests of the American People in mind. Instead they have become a den of political snakes. That MUST not exist in law enforcement. The American People can have NO FAITH in such an FBI. Further, I have grave doubts as to whether counter terrorism should be housed in the FBI. The FBI's original mission was investigation of crime, written law, literally black or white. The world of "intelligence" is all shadows. Is talking to Russians always bad? Should we be suspicious of ALL conversations with Russians? All trips to Russia? Is the US ambassador to Russia a threat because he talked to Russians? When you have agents crossing back and forth between the world of black & white and the shadows it becomes impossible to draw lines. There is too much opportunity for coloring outside those lines. This ambiguity is exactly what was deliberately utilized to carry out this illegal spying. They pushed it all into the shadows to hide what they were doing. It was a conspiracy to do so.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Rinktum 12/12/2019 6:49:47 AM (No. 259682)
#1, I agree with your assessment. I also agree that what has been done to this President is, indeed, a conspiracy. We need to be mindful of the words we use and conspiracy is one that the public understands and correctly describes the FBI’s actions. No more pussyfooting around with words. The FBI and DOJ conspired to interfere in a presidential election and when that failed they conspired to unseat a duly elected President simply because they could. No power like this should ever be vested in a few individuals who thought they were above the law they were sworn to uphold. Someone way above their pay grade gave them the nod and we need to know exactly who that person way. This was not just some organic plan that grew to fruition over a few drinks. A conspiracy of this magnitude had to have approval from on high and the American people deserve to know who set this all in motion.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Lazyman 12/12/2019 6:52:23 AM (No. 259685)
Today it was the Dims tomorrow who knows? Every American should be up in arms not backing up the offending party because of their hate for Trump. I know that if it were the Pubs that did this I would be just as outraged. The truth and freedom is what binds us together.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: walcb 12/12/2019 7:22:02 AM (No. 259706)
Clinesmith and Steele will sing like birds on a sunny spring morning. Clinesmith is caught dead to right and Steele has already perjured himself.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 12/12/2019 7:27:08 AM (No. 259712)
Incompetent agents make lots of mistakes - some helpful, some harmful. Biased agents make "mistakes" that always benefit one agenda. Biased agents talk about needing an "insurance policy" if Trump gets elected. Maybe Horowitz couldn't figure this out, but we common sense Americans can handle it!
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Reply 6 - Posted by: learner 12/12/2019 7:50:14 AM (No. 259725)
First off all the lawyers who submitted info to the FISC need to be disbarred. Second, they need to be fired with loss of any pension like smarmy Strozk. Third, they need to be prosecuted to the full extent of the law. We see people in prison for lying to the FBI, They should also be called to account for lying to the court.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: worried 12/12/2019 8:17:30 AM (No. 259755)
I'm just curious now, Was Bernie Sanders investigated by the FBI, or anyone, for that matter, when he honeymooned in Russia? Why haven't the Dims asked for a probe on him, as he isn't really a Democrat but a Socialist. Is it because he is pretending to be a Dim now?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: bubby 12/12/2019 8:25:39 AM (No. 259771)
The FBI has been corrupted by obama, Democrats and the deep state beyond repair. Time to end the FBI! The Founders were against a Federal police force believing it could become politicized! Keep the FBI crime lab and data base and let existing agents find work with State bureaus of investigations. The Federal funds saved should be given to the States to hire the existing FBI agents. Problem solved. If not at least get rid of the “intelligence unit”!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: seamusm 12/12/2019 8:43:17 AM (No. 259800)
Thank God it was only repeated and deliberate misconduct. It could have been sooo much worse if the FBI'ers had been biased.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: udanja99 12/12/2019 8:44:07 AM (No. 259803)
Isn’t it interesting that we have yet to hear one word of protest from the “good, solid, honest, hard working” agents at the FBI? You’d think that they’d be outraged by the behavior of their bosses and would want to clean their own house. Which begs the question - are there really any good, solid, honest, hard working agents at all or are they just interesting in protecting their paychecks and their pensions? The lesson for us in all of this - never ever speak to anyone from the FBI without your lawyer present.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: bigfatslob 12/12/2019 9:13:45 AM (No. 259839)
After listening to Horowitz we can conclude he is part of the swamp just like Session and Mueller before him. Delaying and acting like a buffer to stall for time. The reason maybe to come up with another tactic from the democrats but I don't believe the left is going to throw in the towel on impeachment. The democrat left as a party will have to be stomped into the ground in 2020 and beyond. This is truly a conspiracy that gets bigger everyday or we find more everyday this is huge and needs to be snuffed out if this Republic is to have a future.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: gone2pot 12/12/2019 9:15:59 AM (No. 259843)
Yeah but there was no political bias and the federal government and its agencies got to utterly destroy innocent people's lives in order to use their destruction to remove a duly elected president. How great is that, huh? PLUS, there was a BOAT LOAD of luck for the FBI in it as well. Ever go to Vegas and place 17 red bets on the roulette wheel and then WIN 17 times in a row? Do you know what the odds are of that stroke of luck happening? Well, it's 0.00000762939453125. And that "Luck Be a Lady Tonight" FBI had every single one of their 17 "random" investigation errors fall against Trump which proves there was no political bias but just plain old impossible odds luck. I wonder if it was luck that the ONLY CNN coverage of the Horowitz hearings was when Feinstein or another Dem senator asked Horowitz, "Did you discover any political bias in your investigation"? And Horowitz ALWAYS answered, "NO," proving those less than one in 20,000 odds, 17 "errors" were just random.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: bighambone 12/12/2019 10:02:38 AM (No. 259886)
The DOJ/FBI only did what they did to “frame” both candidate and President Trump because they were given a “wink and a nod” from the highest office in the Obama White House, as why else would those super bureaucrats put their individual high level positions, personal qualifications and reputations at risk? Clearly they knew that after their corrupt “frame” job against Trump was successful that they stood to be rewarded personally and professionally after Hillary Clinton was elected. If that were not so, it means that the DOJ/FBI is totally corrupt and routinely takes the same inappropriate actions to “frame” anyone they are investigating anytime they feel like doing that.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: HotRod 12/12/2019 10:30:53 AM (No. 259924)
President Trump got rid of Comey, which was a good start. He brought in Wray, who was supposed to continue cleaning out the rat's nest. Sadly, we see no action from Wray to do that. Based on IG Horowitz's report, Wray has been a failure. He has not fired the people responsible for the malfeasance, corruption, negligence, or failure to take corrective action. He has been criticized by President Trump for lack of progress and failure to act. A man of honor and integrity would hand in his resignation at this point. I suppose President Trump will have to have Wray fired too.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: bythegates 12/12/2019 12:23:57 PM (No. 260073)
17 mistakes and 51 false statements all going against Trump yet without bias is a statistical impossibility. Unbiased mistakes and misstatements would split roughly evenly between "for" and "against" Trump.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: little guy 12/12/2019 12:34:18 PM (No. 260085)
How sad that a once great organization all young boys wanted to join back in the 1960's has deteriorated into the Forever Bumbling Investigators! I will hold my fire until the Fat Lady sings, however. She's not out on stage yet but is clearing her throat in her dressing room while rehearsing the notes that John Henry "Bull" Durham is giving her. She's just about to put on the hat with the horns and is getting the shield and spear ready. Wait for it!
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Reply 17 - Posted by: weejun 12/12/2019 1:35:42 PM (No. 260134)
Unfortunately, the dire implications/findings of Horowitz' investigation are not getting out to the American people. My local rag carried an AP article on page 9 about the Senate hearing with the headline "Horowitz testifies about FBI, FISA mistakes" and then proceeds to characterize the hearing as a "tug of war" between committee Dems and Repubs to support either the Dem view that it was a "legitimate probe" or the Repub view that it was a "bungled farce." This is a dark time in our history. A free, independent and critical press/media is vital to our functioning as a democratic republic, but many in the press have sold their souls to the ideology of the left/democrats. Consequently, virtually everything they report is biased by their chosen ideology, and, instead of being leery, they fawn over government people as if their lives depend on parroting everything these "sources" say as the gospel truth (recall the last three years of lies repeated constantly by the press, and now dismissing the Horowitz report's key findings because the investigation "found no political bias"). Durham may be our last chance, and if the Dems win the Presidency and retain the House, we can kiss our unique, relatively short-lived experiment in personal liberty goodbye.
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