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Trump impeachment based on
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Posted By: MissMolly, 11/21/2019 4:24:36 AM

The House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment hearing Wednesday posed a conundrum. Better yet, let’s call it a riddle. When is a “quid pro quo” not a “quid pro quo?” The answer is … when it’s “presumed.” U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland testified that there was a “quid pro quo” between the U.S. and Ukraine, even though President Trump made it crystal clear to Sondland that there was no “quid pro quo.” So, how did the ambassador arrive at his opinion that a “quid pro quo” must somehow exist? It turns out that he assumed or “presumed” it. At one point, he called it a mere “guess.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DCGIRL 11/21/2019 5:40:34 AM (No. 241004)
I can't believe they are taking this serious. I have not watch any of this clown court.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Krause 11/21/2019 7:22:16 AM (No. 241058)
Good idea to put CNN on trial also.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Foont 11/21/2019 7:44:00 AM (No. 241073)
Does it matter at all? The leftists started talking impeachment before Trump was inaugurated and aren't going to stop just because they have no real evidence of anything other than bad manners on Trump's part. The thing is that if they don't impeach their base is going to go ballistic and take it out on them (something the GOP base rarely, if ever, does with the traitors they elect). If they impeach they might suffer losses but nothing like what they could suffer if they don't impeach. They have painted themselves into a corner.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Rinktum 11/21/2019 7:47:29 AM (No. 241077)
This democrat clown show has been a complete waste of time and money. The American people don’t like it either. Democrats have wasted three years because they decided to throw one heck of a hissy fit because their candidate did not win. They have been so invested in the resistance that they have shown that they have nothing of value to offer to the American people. They have done nothing but show themselves to be like a toddler who when he does not get his way throws himself on the floor screaming and crying. After the Russia hoax fizzled, they could have changed course, but they just can’t. Now if the IG Report is the revelation that we all hope it is going to be, it may cripple the party for decades. We can only pray that justice is served and the Deep State is destroyed.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: italianlooks 11/21/2019 8:30:39 AM (No. 241105)
What we know... conclusions based on presumption is drawn from bias experiences We know that politics are done by winks and nods.. until there is an open mike, direct comments are made.. 2012 election Obama to Medevdev 2013 red line and no response, 2014 Cremia no US response.. Fast forward Ukraine known to be corrupt, so wink and nod diplomacy, out the window.. president Trump to the world clean up you act and clean out corruption.. $$$ So is it politics or business.. I say business.. do you hear me now?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Mekkkk 11/21/2019 8:47:04 AM (No. 241128)
Thank you dems for helping our president being reelected
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Strike3 11/21/2019 9:37:08 AM (No. 241177)
If the democrats are willing to sacrifice their dignity, trust and image (I know, not much there) after Donald Trump won one term, imagine what it's going to be like after the 2020 election. They will be jumping off more buildings than the people who lost their fortunes in the great stock market crash of 1929. Our big concerns will be protecting ourselves from their violent tantrums and dodging falling bodies. Hillary will have the big one right in the middle of her inevitable speech decrying Republican cheating.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 11/21/2019 9:43:24 AM (No. 241184)
This entire process is all for optics. But, once again, the dims have assumed that we the people are stupid, gullible, too busy to find the truth, and willing to be told what to think and when to think it. Americans are fed up with the DC garbage coming from the dims on this so-called inquiry. And over here in the People's Republic of Colorado, we are equally disgusted with the dim-controlled governorship and legislature. Everything little thing that can knock the state down another notch or two from its once-great stature as a natural resource-rich economic center and recreational mecca has been rammed through by a dim-controlled super majority already and more damage to jobs is yet to come.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Deety 11/21/2019 9:56:20 AM (No. 241195)
President Trump seems to be letting this illegal farce of a coup of a farce of an unconstitutional resistance of a farce continue for a reason. We don't know what that reason is yet, but we trust it is a very good one and that the criminals(D) and their media bodyguards(D) will soon be facing an historic encounter with Lady Justice, no longer blindfolded...
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Reply 10 - Posted by: bigfatslob 11/21/2019 10:36:27 AM (No. 241230)
I'm still waiting for a whistleblower who will it be Jack-in-the-box? At this point Pelosi let Schiff loose on the crowd and this is what she got all to shut up a few screaming memes in Congress and the entire democrat party commits suicide with this farce.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: bighambone 11/21/2019 10:55:04 AM (No. 241243)
Adam Schiff and the Democrats could care less about the weight of legitimate evidence to impeach President Trump, as their political agenda has been to impeach and remove President Trump from office since the day he was elected. In that respect those Democrats would impeach Trump for wearing the wrong colored socks in a heartbeat. To those partisan Democrats anytime President Trump uses his discretion on any matter that shakes up the career “Deep State” bureaucracy and the DC political “UniParty” by changing long standing US policies, with new policies designed to put the interests of the USA first, over the Democrat’s sometimes corrupt personal and political interests, or the “deep state” bureaucratic interests, that many times includes, as we have been seeing, favoring certain foreign countries by delivering huge amounts of US foreign aid to those countries, with some of those countries being very corrupt, where common sense will tell you that some of that foreign aid money ends up in the pockets of foreign dictators and even corrupt US actors. In the Democrats political minds, any such action by Trump is fodder for them to fraudulently claim that Trump is abusing the powers of the presidency, and among others, to use disgruntled bureaucrats to give bogus evidence that Trump should be impeached and removed from office. The Democrats and the entrenched bureaucracy don’t give a hoot that the American people elected Trump to do what he has been doing regarding foreign affairs. The US Constitution gives the elected President broad discretion to change or set US foreign policy. Career bureaucrats, in the diplomatic service or not, are there to carry out the foreign policies of the President and have no constitutional or statutorily change the foreign policies set by the President. So just because the Democrats don’t like the President’s foreign policies, or some career bureaucrats, including those down in the diplomatic weeds serving in foreign countries don’t like presidential changes or the manner that Trump is carrying out his foreign policies, are not legitimate grounds to impeach and remove a President from office, that is at least to this point in US history. The Democrats by spying on Trump since he was elected are setting a horrible political precedent for the future, that can only hurt US democracy.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: jacksin5 11/21/2019 10:58:51 AM (No. 241246)
Thank you to Kevin McCarthy who moved Conservatives such as Jim Jordan onto the House Intelligence Committee to cross-examine the so-called witnesses put up by Adam Schiff. The major problem that remains is that most people will not watch the hearings, but will tune in to the MSM for their version of what occurred each day. The MSM is totally in sync when it comes to talking points and buzzwords, and they are putting out whatever Schiff is laying down. The Radical Left knows this, and are using these hearings to try to brainwash adults the same way the indoctrinate young people in public schools and colleges.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Timber Queen 11/21/2019 12:00:56 PM (No. 241321)
It was just a matter of course that Sondland would presume quid pro quo despite President Trump's admonition that he wanted nothing but for the new Ukrainian president to do the right thing. His Deep State reality is that no one ever tells the truth, operating instead from a playbook filled with loaded double-meaning terms understood only by the initiate. Corruption, quid pro quo, personal advancement and wealth are the operational philosophies of Deep State foreign policy, wherein making assumptions is a basic survival skill. Notice how after Rep. Turner stated Sondland had no evidence or real testimony, the Ambassador responded huffily, "Other than my own presumption." Sondland still believes that his assumption is valid evidence. The fundamental mistake being made by the commie Deep State functionaries, both elected and bureaucrats, is the assumption Donald Trump operates the same way. They truly expected to find all manner of crimes and malfeasance, just as one would expect trees and streams in a forest. They have never encountered an honest man and their software is incompatible with the Trump operating system. The commies are giving us a mega-sized example of the old warning about the desire to "assume"; it makes an "ass" out of "u" and "me". MAGA - The truth will set us free.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: NotaBene 11/21/2019 12:28:02 PM (No. 241347)
Why do Democrats love the Ukraine more than the USA?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: pensom2 11/21/2019 1:34:21 PM (No. 241394)
#14, the dems don't love the Ukraine more than the USA. They simply shift their allegiances and "love" according to the issue of the day. During the Obama administration, Obie assured the Ukrainians that if they'd give up their weaponry, the USA would defend them if Russia attacked. Yet when Russia invaded the Crimea, and Ukraine pleaded for assistance in defending themselves, Obie declined, and send them blankets and MRE's. The dems thought nothing of Ukraine's needs until they found that maybe Trump might have held up some of the Ukraine aid for two weeks.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Trapper 11/21/2019 1:36:47 PM (No. 241396)
Sondland was the first one I watched, and really the only one you need. The entire kerfuffle traces back to him and his unsupported "presumptions," fabricated entirely in his head and that he spread around like a virus. The whole thing sounded like an excruciatingly detailed recounting of a game of telephone. Suzy made an assumption and told it to Mary as fact, Mary told Amy, Amy told Valerie and Becky, Valerie told Cindy and Lizzy, Becky told Eleanor and Patty, Eleanor told Mary and they compared their stories and together told an altered version to .... here we go ... THE WHISTLEBLOWER. And if you meticulously trace it all back, Sondland was Suzy. And we pay these guys?
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Lawsy0 11/21/2019 5:45:07 PM (No. 241554)
If Sondland hated Donald Trump, why did he agree to take the Ambassadorship? Money? That make Sondland a hooker, a lady of the evening, singing ''Love For Sale.''
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Reply 18 - Posted by: 4Justice 11/21/2019 8:07:36 PM (No. 241652)
Unfortunately, a lot of the people in the U.S. ARE stupid. So many of them take what the MSM tells them and go around telling everyone that the President did all sorts of criminal acts and abused his power, even though, in truth, he did nothing wrong. I spend hours and days putting those people in their place by countering their lies with facts.
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