If conservatives want to keep
their guns, they’re going to have
to find a way to stop mass shootings
Washington Post,
by
Meghan McArdle
Original Article
Posted By: MissMolly,
8/7/2019 5:00:11 AM
When it comes to gun control, conservatives have been fortunate in their enemies. Every time there is a mass shooting, the left renews its calls for gun control, but it spends a great deal of energy on futile and ahistorical arguments about the wording of the Second Amendment, or making hackle-raising, invidious comparisons with Europe. And when it comes time to actually suggest what should be done, Democrats generally suggest policies recycled from the 1994 crime bill, such as background checks and a ban on assault weapons. There’s little evidence that these policies did anything to curb gun violence the first time
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Highlander 8/7/2019 5:05:25 AM (No. 144974)
What do you mean, “If we want to keep our guns?” Is that a threat, lady?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
HammerDax56 8/7/2019 5:44:11 AM (No. 144983)
If. She said “if”
That’s rather inflammatory rhetoric.
“Nice little constitution you have there...be a shame if something bad happened to it”
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
BarryNo 8/7/2019 5:46:27 AM (No. 144984)
Eliminate Liberals? Or at least disarm them.
That would stop 90% of mass shootings.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Locarno 8/7/2019 5:49:35 AM (No. 144986)
Sorry, Meghan, but you're not dumping your problems onto us. Virtually ALL of the mass murderers in this country have been democrats. Usually egged-on by you leftist liars at the WaPo. Conservatives will keep their guns if they want them. If the leftist press is going to continue to spout off hate and lies, then Meghan and her ilk are going to have to find a way to stop their comrades from mass murders. There, fixed the article for you all.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
franq 8/7/2019 5:52:54 AM (No. 144987)
The author is deluded. The logic is twisted. But what do you expect from the bleeding heart left?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna 8/7/2019 6:17:36 AM (No. 145001)
......cold, dead hand."
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
fordtran 8/7/2019 6:17:57 AM (No. 145002)
The way to stop mass shootings is concealed carry. The shell game of how many people around me have a weapon will deter almost all crime. Good guy with a gun takes out bad guy with a gun. Your buddies in Hollywood use the formula in their movies all the time. The title to the article should read, " If Liberals want to keep their freedom, they are going to have defend everyone's freedom."
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
HPmatt 8/7/2019 6:23:20 AM (No. 145005)
Different verse from someone who described people clinging to religion?? you are watching fruit from seeds you planted when you denigrated ‘family values’ - you vile, ignorant, agents of evil.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
chumley 8/7/2019 6:56:41 AM (No. 145029)
If I had any guns that were not manually operated, I believe I would be seeking out long term hidden storage solutions just in case. Possibly sealed containers for burial, or maybe false walls or ceilings. Too many so called republicans appear to be buckling under the pressure already, and we know the president will because he already has.
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Well why don't you come and TAKE them?
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Hey nitwit, keeping guns does prevent mass shootings. If a certain grandma had brought hers into the Walmart there probably would have been a lot less carnage.
Somehow you idiots think that criminals and mass murderers are going to give up their guns if you just tell them they can't have them. Well good luck with that one. Now I want to see you take the 300 million guns out of the hands of American citizens who have every right to own them. They get their rights from God not some mealy mouthed journalist who work for the Propaganda Paper of Record.
The Declaration spelled out our rights a long time ago and the Constitution told us how to hold onto them. SO you and your worthless paper can talk to someone who is willing to give up their God given rights to others. As for me and mine we are not willing, so come and get those rights if you think you can. We have been willing to fight and die for them for over 200 yrs and the WAPO is hardly the one to change that.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
worried 8/7/2019 7:28:28 AM (No. 145052)
Hey, Meghan, how's that working out in Chicago? They have some of the toughest gun laws in the country, but they can't stop mass shootings and murders every weekend. You said it yourself when you mentioned that liberal (AKA Leftist) policies led to the problems we have now. So why would we expect your dem solutions to work now?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
privateer 8/7/2019 7:29:14 AM (No. 145054)
If leftists want to enslave the American People, they're going to have to find a way to take away their guns. They're working on it all the time.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
bogeegolf 8/7/2019 7:50:44 AM (No. 145074)
The first bumper sticker I remember seeing growing up said “ where guns are outlawed only outlaws will have guns “. Some things don’t change .
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
JrSample 8/7/2019 7:52:09 AM (No. 145076)
From the article:
"Democrats generally suggest policies recycled from the 1994 crime bill, such as background checks and a ban on assault weapons. There’s little evidence that these policies did anything to curb gun violence the first time..."
That's just a damn lie. The crime bill that was passed into law, which modernized police forces and put dangerous criminals behind bars (and kept them there), succeeded in dropping the homicide and violent crime rate by over 50%. Liberals are attempting to reverse this by ignoring the record. They are hoping that voters will have short memories, but most of us are old enough to remember how bad crime was 25 years ago, and do not want to go back. Their ideas are to release dangerous criminals (more Willie Horton programs), hamstring the police, and use the resulting increase in crime and an excuse for more gun control.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Daisymay 8/7/2019 7:55:13 AM (No. 145080)
I am sick and tired of the Left telling the world what to do. I think responsibility to stop Mass Shootings falls directly on the PARENTS (or Wife or Best Friends) of that Shooter! THEY see them everyday, and know they are troubled people. Parents who ignore these young men, maybe even feel they can't control them, should ask for HELP. I would bet the signs were there on this young man, but if anyone even suggested their son needed to see someone or be put in a Mental Institution, all hell would break loose! Parents are responsible for the upbringing of their children. Schools also are somewhat responsible, they see these kids everyday and most of them are troublemakers in School. They should be charged with a crime (if they do something criminal) instead of having their crime washed from their records (think South Florida). But the Schools are LIBERAL and they don't want to be labeled as tough on those poor little innocent kids. GUNS are not the problem! Parents are!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
sw penn 8/7/2019 8:07:12 AM (No. 145089)
Of course conservatives would like to stop mass shootings,
but there is no way to do that in a free society.
The US population 330 Million People (new census will tell us there are more)
if only 1/10th of 1 percent are homicidal maniacs like these morons
that means you are walking the streets with 330,000 of them every day.
And that's not even counting the ideological crazies.
It can be taken as a measure of the goodness and decency of the American people
that these events do not happen with greater frequency.
"Any one who will trade freedom for security deserves neither"
Is an important idea, Trey,
but do not overlook the even more important ending:
"and will lose both!"
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 8/7/2019 8:16:03 AM (No. 145102)
Oh stuff it, Meghan! Sideways.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Socio 8/7/2019 8:16:52 AM (No. 145103)
The only way to to stop mass shootings is to stop voting Democrat, teach your kids to never ever vote Democrat and make sure they teach their kids to never ever vote Democrat. We don't have a gun control problem in the US we have a serious Progressive Liberalism problem, it is at the root of the mass shootings, every damn one of them!
In the interim we need to repeal the NFA and have National conceal carry law enacted.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
jacksin5 8/7/2019 8:44:27 AM (No. 145129)
How about stopping the violent, hateful rhetoric of the Left first. Americans are bombarded with with threats of violence by people who use their influence and fame, (Politicians, Hollywood etc.} which the Media splashes on all their outlets.
The effect on the Mentally Ill is like that of a child's toy. They wind them up, then watch them go.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
anniebc 8/7/2019 9:04:18 AM (No. 145157)
Shut up! stupid.
If leftists want to continue to make people think they really care about them, they're going to have to find a way to stop mass lying.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
ToryWhite 8/7/2019 9:13:58 AM (No. 145172)
Meghan dear,
Hate to break this to you, but gun purchase does not fall on political lines. Lots of lefties, liberals, conservatives, and dare I say "socialists" have guns.
Are you out of high school yet?
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
VietVet68 8/7/2019 9:27:48 AM (No. 145193)
"If conservatives want to keep their guns, they’re going to have to find a way to stop mass shootings". It seems to me that, even though they try to hide it, every mass shooting ties back to liberals in some fashion. The El Paso shooter was a registered democrat, the Dayton shooter was a Warren, Sanders supporter.
In the past most of the mass shootings were perpetrated by leftist haters. I think the left may be where we have to start in order to stop mass shootings. Their hateful rhetoric always gets a pass from the left wing media and in fact gets amplified by that same media for maximum effect.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
kono 8/7/2019 9:40:22 AM (No. 145205)
When you peel away the veil, these people are basically saying that if humans want to keep their liberty they need to find a way to stop people from doing evil to others.
This is the way people who believe secular humanism play God. We don't like your sin, so we will stop you from sinning. Chutzpah squared.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
qr4j 8/7/2019 9:50:39 AM (No. 145221)
Did Ms. McArdle write any articles about the gun-running scheme undertaken by the Obama administration? I believe it was called Fast and Furious or something like that.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Italiano 8/7/2019 10:00:47 AM (No. 145232)
We have alternative ways.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Strike3 8/7/2019 10:06:20 AM (No. 145241)
Oh no you don't, WaPo. Gun ownership in America is not negotiable nor can you place the guilt for mass shootings on Conservatives. I thought the New York TImes had the exclusive on low-IQ writers but you people are giving them a run for their money. Stuff it where the sun don't shine, Meghan.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 8/7/2019 10:54:27 AM (No. 145320)
In Obama speak, "if you like your guns you can keep your guns".
Who does this bozo twit think she is? Does she know that conservatives with their gun ownership have a right as stated in the Constitution? I don't need her permission or anyone on the left's permission to own a firearm of my choice as a legal law abiding citizen. Everyone one on the left can go suck rope because I'm not listening.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
couchguy 8/7/2019 12:22:58 PM (No. 145461)
Says the English major pretending to be an economist. I blame Glen Reynolds, without his links she'd be teaching in some junior college.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Smart11344 8/7/2019 1:38:48 PM (No. 145556)
Will the gun toting blacks buy into this? I sincerly doubt it.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Mimi321 8/8/2019 2:18:02 PM (No. 146582)
How dare she make law-abiding Conservatives responsible for evil mass-murderers? And if we don't solve it, we lose our constitutional rights?
Take a walk, sister.
And by the way - you want to end mass shootings? Abolish gun-free zones, and remove unconstitutional restrictions on gun ownership by law-abiding citizens.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Smart11344 8/8/2019 3:05:57 PM (No. 146613)
Easy response. Do NOT allow democrats to own anything stronger than a BB gun.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
msjena 8/8/2019 3:07:36 PM (No. 146614)
Yes, the Constitution can be amended and yes, the composition of the Supreme Court can change. But the first is virtually impossible with regard to the Second Amendment. And the second would take generations, not just years. And there is plenty of evidence that mental illness plays a large role. The Secret Service says 67% of mass shooters are known to have been mentally ill. And that doesn't include the ones we don't know about, like the Las Vegas shooter. I also think those numbers are low. Do they include Muslim fanatics like the Fort Hood or San Bernardino shooters? I think the number is probably over 90%. And crazy people who want to kill find ways even without guns. The Boston Marathon bombers, for instance. Or the 9/11 terrorists, for that matter. Identifying the dangerous mentally ill is something that should concern everyone, not just conservatives.
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