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The Forgotten Bargain that Made America

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Posted By: Imright, 6/17/2019 9:04:14 AM

How did we Americans get ourselves into the mess we are now in?It's a complicated story. It started when the American people broke a bargain honorably made. And not just any bargain. The bargain that was broken was the founding bargain, the bargain that made America.George Washington's original Cabinet defines that founding bargain for us. It is a truism that Washington's Cabinet was the greatest one America has ever had. Washington had Jefferson at State, Alexander Hamilton at Treasury, Henry Knox at the War Department, and Edmund Randolph as the attorney general.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Clinger 6/17/2019 9:25:32 AM (No. 99864)
Simple, brilliant and an essential must read. This is what divides us. As founded our government was all about defining what your neighbors were not allowed to do to you. Laws were created to keep individuals, and collective groups under the umbrella of government, from trampling on your inalienable rights, Now it's all about what your neighbors must do for you, or what you must do for your neighbors. Currently there are laws and a clamor for more laws that empower government to coerce some citizens to provide for others, not all of whom need be citizens. And to facilitate all of that, there is an ever expanding ruling elite who divide us between providers and takers and administer the massive transfer. This is not what my ancestors died for and rebelled against their king to create. How many of the people within your sphere know the difference between negative rights and positive rights? We are not even speaking the same language when we speak of rights.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: hammondb3 6/17/2019 9:25:51 AM (No. 99865)
A good read. The 17th Amendment is a disaster. The Senate was designed to be a stabilizing 'Voice of Reason' to counteract the less stable House of Representatives serving as the Voice of the People. For the last century, the Senate has become just another House of Representatives with more arcane parliamentary rules. If we lose the Electoral College, or circumvent it, we are toast. It will be mob rule.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: hotcorner 6/17/2019 10:23:42 AM (No. 99924)
Excellent article. The Senate, if selected as intended, would not have the thugs, losers and light weights that serve a lifetime. It is the single most issue affecting us today BESIDES voter fraud and the lack of a balanced media and internet. Doing away with the electoral college would bring Venezuela quickly.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 6/17/2019 10:52:37 AM (No. 99953)
I'm not convinced that Senators chosen by state legislators would have been much different from the craziness we have now. I doubt the California legislature would have chosen any better than the crazies the voters elected. Ditto for Illinois, New York or Massachusetts. Legislatures reflect their voters, and if their voters are nuts, so are their legislators.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Laotzu 6/17/2019 10:58:33 AM (No. 99959)
Appallingly wrong. The reason for out-of-control federal government is the broad reading of the Commerce Clause.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: HotRod 6/17/2019 11:33:06 AM (No. 99988)
As illustrated by some of the ''man on the street'' interviews, many people-especially college students- do not even know who the Vice President or Speaker of the House is. Nor do they know anything about the Constitution, Bill of Rights, or who we fought in the Revolutionary War. We expect that politicians will be honest and account for this by doing the right thing anyway? Sadly, power and money are the focus of politics, as evidenced by the incessant fighting between political parties. They are not fighting for the best interest of the American people, they are fighting for the power and money. The old term: ''Fat, dumb, and happy!'' applies to enough citizens, especially those on the dole, to make it easy!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: ZeldaFitzg 6/17/2019 3:51:26 PM (No. 100131)
He lays forth the clear case. The states only agreed to a union that would let them retain their local power. At the Federal level, only the House was to be elected by the people. And they believed the voting citizen would be an informed citizen, and certainly one not on the public dole. They were wise not to turn the government at that time over to the Mob, as they called the lazy, unfettered and uninformed rabble. They recognized chaos created by the Mob, and they called them what they were. In this present day we had a ne'er do well filmed on television as saying that Obama, when President, was going to get her an apartment and a car. When asked where the money would come from, she shrugged and said, "Wherever the President gets his money." This is not the informed and industrious citizen that they expected at the polling booth.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: MeiDei 6/17/2019 4:49:42 PM (No. 100167)
if this is not being taught in schools it should be! There are nationwide laws and government departments today that are fundamentally unconstitutional. What State is going to reclaim its rights? How about precedents ... should they apply to every State or just the one that deviated from strict law, how long should they be in effect?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: red1066 6/17/2019 5:09:44 PM (No. 100174)
That first cabinet sure puts the likes of those in Washington today look like slackers. The government as composed today is a disaster, and look how much less personal freedom one today as compared to just 50 years ago.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 6/17/2019 7:16:10 PM (No. 100234)
#7 makes a great point. The Mob. It was a great fear of the founders. Thus the property requirement to vote. Property gave one an interest in what the government did that affected the value of what that property produced. Jefferson, the champion of the Herman farmer, believed in the intelligence and ability to make good judgements when electing representatives to the House. Of course they almost to a man also believed that a republic required a moral, diligent people. Of course, over time suffrage was granted to broader and broader groups. When exercised intelligently, the vote is a powerful tool. When exercised foolishly, it is like giving hand grenades to monkeys... anything can happen and it whatever that is, it won’t be good.
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