Post New Article

Army helicopter was warned about American
Airlines plane twice — with final alert
coming just seconds before DC crash

Original Article

Posted By: Imright, 2/2/2025 4:14:13 AM

The Black Hawk helicopter that crashed into an American Airlines plane was alerted to the plane’s presence by air control twice, the first time at least two minutes before the deadly crash, according to a Washington Post report. Aviation experts reviewed Wednesday night’s radio transmissions, obtained by The Washington Post, and said that a soldier on the Black Hawk requested “visual separation” so that the helicopter crew could maintain a safe distance from the plane, which it could see. Both times, the request was approved by air traffic control. At 8:48 p.m., about 12 seconds after the second air traffic control tower alert, the helicopter and passenger plane collided.

Post Reply

Reminder: “WE ARE A SALON AND NOT A SALOON”

Your thoughts, comments, and ideas are always welcome here. But we ask you to please be mindful and respectful. Threatening or crude language doesn't persuade anybody and makes the conversation less enjoyable for fellow L.Dotters.


Reply 1 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 2/2/2025 6:04:12 AM (No. 1887255)
Both the FAA ATC in the tower and the Black Hawk pilot screwed up. Both are to blame. Whether DEI infected them both will be determined in due time.
29 people like this.

Reply 2 - Posted by: 5 handicap 2/2/2025 6:38:28 AM (No. 1887260)
DEI Strikes again! A little more deadly this time...Boeing was glad it wasn't them this time!
19 people like this.

Reply 3 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 2/2/2025 6:51:31 AM (No. 1887269)
A more descriptive warning would have been needed than "Do you see the plane?" Something like "get down to your required altitude immediately" or "crash is imminent, turn right and dive down".
30 people like this.

Reply 4 - Posted by: privateer 2/2/2025 7:40:46 AM (No. 1887296)
But to give such a urgently necessary instruction, one would have to understand how aviation and ATC work. So how come that didn't happen? There is only one person left alive who can explain that.
14 people like this.

Reply 5 - Posted by: anniebc 2/2/2025 7:43:44 AM (No. 1887298)
I thought there were two planes, one that was seen by the BH and another unseen/unknown. The confusion seemed to be when they went to visual with communication from the ATC about only one plane.
7 people like this.

Reply 6 - Posted by: Venturer 2/2/2025 8:02:47 AM (No. 1887321)
We knew this long before the WAPO reported it. All of us who have been following this heard those words,
9 people like this.

Reply 7 - Posted by: Alecto2 2/2/2025 8:11:25 AM (No. 1887332)
Was this Black Hawk one that could be remotely controlled? https://www.dailydot.com/debug/black-hawk-helicopter-matrix-autonomy/
6 people like this.

Reply 8 - Posted by: Strike3 2/2/2025 8:23:20 AM (No. 1887343)
A joke about women drivers would be totally inappropriate at this time but one has to wonder. A helicopter is more difficult to fly than any aircraft except maybe the SR-71 so only the best and most skilled should be trusted in that role. With the hundreds of military bases scattered throughout the wilderness of this great country, is it wise to conduct military training in one of the nation's busiest commercial air spaces? Using it as VIP transport to Washington is even more questionable.
19 people like this.

Reply 9 - Posted by: TCloud 2/2/2025 9:47:28 AM (No. 1887427)
It was like Fort Belvior or Bust the way that chopper entered the left of the screen and made impact with the jet. Captured on the earthcam website!
6 people like this.

Reply 10 - Posted by: rytwng 2/2/2025 9:56:07 AM (No. 1887433)
The helicopter was on straight line headed for the airplane. Was it on purpose?
9 people like this.

Reply 11 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 2/2/2025 10:15:29 AM (No. 1887451)
Air Control warned the helicopter pilot - - but unfortunately that pilot didn't speak English. Simple solution - - all aircraft should have a translator on board. No more crashes.
2 people like this.

Reply 12 - Posted by: Tusker 2/2/2025 10:16:01 AM (No. 1887453)
A video aired showed the chopper below, at altitude, then abruptly gaining altitude describing now an angle directly into the AA plane. Explain that.
5 people like this.

Reply 13 - Posted by: RobertJ984 2/2/2025 11:24:45 AM (No. 1887520)
"Allahu Akbar”
3 people like this.

Reply 14 - Posted by: bighambone 2/2/2025 11:43:17 AM (No. 1887540)
Well common sense will tell you that if the American Airlines commercial aircraft was flying at about 325 feet from the ground as the NTSB investigator told the nation last evening, with the Army helicopter flying at or within the helicopter’s authorized 200 foot ceiling from the ground as they passed each other, the American Airlines aircraft in the established glide zone to the runway threshold at Reagan National Airport, and with the Army helicopter following the helicopter route along the Potomac River that they would not have collided and crashed? So chances are the Army helicopter, for some unexplained reason, was flying about 100 feet above its authorized ceiling of 200 feet resulting in the air to air collusion that occurred.
5 people like this.

Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 2/2/2025 11:49:18 AM (No. 1887543)
The pilot of the helo suddenly went way too high, from 200 feet to at least 350 ft, according to the radar data. And the error/lying started yesterday as the NTSB guy said that the "radar tab" (alphanumeric tag alongside the aircraft symbol on the radar screen) showed that the airliner was at 200 ft just before the crash. This is false. I have seen the radar screen data and the tab showed "0004" in the altitude position, indicating 400 ft. He either made a mistake, although he went through a long winded story about it, or he flat out lied. Are they now starting to push the blame onto the CRJ airliner for being too low? This 'everyone made just a little mistake' kind of crap is typical of leftists. The data shows that the airliner was where it was supposed to be and the helo was way above the maximum permissible altitude on that helo route. I still say this is all on the helo pilots. They repeatedly reported that they saw the CRJ and would 'provide visual separation', meaning the same thing as when you are driving your car, you see another car and won't run into it.
4 people like this.

Reply 16 - Posted by: Sunhan65 2/2/2025 12:14:03 PM (No. 1887565)
My understanding is that women are safer drivers overall. Whether that translates into great ability to fly helicopters safely isn't clear. My guess is it probably doesn't.
1 person likes this.

Reply 17 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 2/2/2025 12:34:21 PM (No. 1887590)
#11 I'm not sure where this information came from. She is white girl who was in ROTC and worked at the white house. Hopefully, we will hear the black box conversation soon!
3 people like this.

Below, you will find ...
Most Recent Articles posted by "Imright"
and
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)
Most Recent Articles posted by Imright"
Norm Eisen, Key Architect Behind the Color
Revolution and 180 Lawsuits Against Trump,
THREATENS Trump Deputy AG Emil Bove with
“Severe Consequences” After Firings (Video)
0 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 9:07:58 PM Post Reply
As previously reported, The Washington Post’s so-called conservative blogger Jennifer Rubin quit the newspaper and joined forces with Deep State hack Norm Eisen to start a media venture called “The Contrarian.” Last month the insufferable duo painfully described how they will cover everything from law, to culture to cooking in their new venture. “We do politics, we’re going to do law. But we know that any successful pro-democracy movement also has to be very vocal about culture. We’ll have a humor column, we’ll even have a cooking column, but
New: Tulsi Gabbard Gets 'Huge' News Ahead
of Committee Vote As Debate Over Her DNI
Nomination Continues
0 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 9:05:43 PM Post Reply
In the aftermath of former Rep. Tulsi Gabbard's confirmation hearing last Thursday, there were doubts expressed over whether she'd be able to win enough support from the nine Republicans on the Senate Intelligence Committee to advance her nomination for Director of National Intelligence (ODNI) to a full floor vote.Despite a strong showing during the hearing in the face of nasty treatment from several Democrats on the committee, some GOP Senators reportedly were conflicted about, among other things, a trip to Syria she took in 2017 and her refusal to refer to former NSA intelligence contractor/whistleblower/leaker Edward Snowden as a "traitor."
Watch: Chuck Schumer, Dems Attack Musk
over DOGE Reviewing Treasury Payment System
15 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 5:49:45 PM Post Reply
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) and other Senate Democrats hold a press conference attacking Elon Musk and the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE). DOGE was granted access to the U.S. Treasury payment system last week, leading to Musk revealing suspect payments made by the United States government: (X) Democrat Sen. Elizabeth Warren attacked the access granted to Musk and DOGE on Sunday: (X)
Trump set to yank US funding for pro-terror
UNRWA, remove America from UN Human Rights Council
8 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 5:46:24 PM Post Reply
President Trump is set to cut funding for the UN Relief and Works Agency for Palestine Refugees (UNRWA) — which has extensively reported ties to the Hamas terror group — and withdraw the US from the controversial UN Human Rights Council (HRC), The Post has learned. Trump, 78 will sign an executive order implementing the changes Tuesday, the same day he is set to meet with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, The Post has learned. “Bibi Netanyahu’s coming on Tuesday, and I think we have some very big meetings scheduled,” the president told reporters on Sunday after returning to Washington from his Palm Beach, Fla. residence.
Patient, 11, and others ID’d in Philadelphia
jet crash as investigators find black
box buried 8 feet in ground at impact site
1 reply
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 5:15:02 PM Post Reply
The young patient and five others killed when their plane crashed into a Philadelphia neighborhood moments after takeoff Friday evening have been identified — as authorities made a disturbing discovery about the jet’s black box. Valentina Guzman Murillo, 11, her mother, Lizeth Murillo Ozuna, 31, Capt. Alan Alejandro Montoya Perales, co-pilot Josue de Jesus Juarez Juarez, Dr. Raul Meza Arredondo, and paramedic Rodrigo Lopez Padilla died in the Mexico-bound Learjet 55 aircraft crash, the company operating the medical transport flight, Jet Rescue Air, told CBS News.
HERE WE GO: Names of FBI Officials Who
Worked on January 6 Cases and Trump Investigations Identified
8 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 5:03:44 PM Post Reply
The names of the FBI officials who worked on January 6 cases and Trump witch hunts have been identified. According to NBC News, there were more than 2,400 cases in total. The FBI officials who worked on the J6 cases and Trump investigations were identified by a case management system. There are reportedly 5,000 employees who have been identified as subject to potential firing.Per NBC News reporter Ken Dilanian: An internal FBI document obtained by NBC News shows that executives use the FBIs Sentinel case file management system to identify agents and employees who worked on January 6 cases.
Canada announces US tariffs on hold for
30 days after Justin Trudeau holds ‘good
phone call with President Trump’
12 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 4:54:06 PM Post Reply
Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Monday that proposed 25% tariffs to be levied by the US will be put on hold for 30 days following a phone call with President Trump. “I just had a good call with President Trump,” Trudeau said in a post on X. “Canada is implementing our $1.3 billion border plan — reinforcing the border with new choppers, technology and personnel, enhanced coordination with our American partners, and increased resources to stop the flow of fentanyl. Nearly 10,000 frontline personnel are and will be working on protecting the border.
Democrat Gov. Murphy Admits to Harboring
‘Illegal Alien’ in His Home — Brazenly
Dares Feds to Intervene
22 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 4:47:51 PM Post Reply
New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy openly admitted that he and his wife, First Lady Tammy Murphy, are personally harboring an illegal immigrant in their own home—practically daring federal authorities to step in. During a recent event with Blue Wave New Jersey, Murphy nonchalantly revealed that an individual whose “immigration status is not yet at the point that they are trying to get it to” is currently residing above his garage. Murphy’s comments came during a broader discussion about the new Trump administration’s policies. While refusing to disclose specific details, the governor made his position clear:
Trump admin ends deportation protections
for massive number of Venezuelans amid
illegal immigration crackdown
1 reply
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 4:44:00 PM Post Reply
The Trump administration is ending a deportation shield for hundreds of thousands of Venezuelans in the U.S., opening the door to them being deported -- just as President Donald Trump has secured an agreement with the socialist country to take back its nationals. The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) confirmed to Fox News Digital that more than 300,000 nationals protected by Temporary Protected Status (TPS) in 2023 are having their statuses revoked. The New York Times, which first reported details of the move, reported that they will lose temporary status 60 days after the government first publishes the notice. TPS grants protection from deportation and allows work permits for nationals living
Kristi Noem Schools NBC Host for Asking
If Legal Immigrants Should Fear Deportation
4 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 4:37:54 PM Post Reply
Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem flipped the script on NBC's Kristen Welker over the weekend when she asked if immigrants living here legally should be worried about being "wrongfully detained" in Trump's America.In a Sunday segment of "Meet the Press," Welker asked Noem whether those with legal status in the U.S. should fear somehow getting caught up in the Trump administration's mass deportation operations. Welker said she has spoken with legal immigrants who have "expressed concerns" and in some cases are carrying around their immigration documents for fear of wrongful detainment.
EXCLUSIVE — ‘We are Counting on Trump’:
Senior Qatari Official Says ‘We Want
the Middle East to Be Great Again,’
Trump’s Push for Peace Critical
3 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 4:31:17 PM Post Reply
Washington—A senior official with the Qatari government is speaking out in a Breitbart News exclusive interview, encouraging President Donald Trump to continue the push for peace in the Middle East just ahead of Trump’s Monday evening meeting with Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. Dr. Majed bin Mohammed al-Ansari, the spokesperson for Qatar’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs and a senior adviser to Qatar’s Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed bin Abdulrahman bin Jassim bin Jabr Al Thani, spoke to Breitbart News by phone exclusively on Monday morning, saying that Trump has put the Middle East on a pathway to peace and seeing the ceasefire in Gaza through to a lasting peace is critical
Bye-Bye Andrea! The Worst of Mitchell’s
MSNBC Show
9 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 4:27:43 PM Post Reply
It’s official! Friday will be Andrea Mitchell’s last day hosting her daytime MSNBC show Andrea Mitchell Reports. Mitchell made the official announcement on Monday’s show. Back in October, Mitchell made the decision to step down from the daily duties of hosting her MSNBC show but will continue at NBC News in her roles as chief foreign affairs correspondent and chief Washington correspondent. Before she departs on Friday, we at NewsBusters wanted to take a not-so fond look back at just some of her worst moments from MSNBC’s Andrea Mitchell Reports:
Most Active Articles (last 48 hours)
Female Pilot Rebecca Lobach’s Entire
Social Media Scrubbed before Army Released
Her Name – So What Are They Hiding?
49 replies
Posted by Hazymac 2/2/2025 10:29:28 AM Post Reply
On Saturday the US Army released the name of the pilot of the US Army Blackhawk helicopter that flew into a passenger jet landing at Reagan National Airport. The crash was on Wednesday. The third pilot’s name, Rebecca Lobach, was finally released on Saturday, three days later. All 64 passengers in the jet were killed. The three pilots in the Blackhawk helicopter also died in the explosive crash. Kristinn Taylor at The Gateway Pundit reported: After withholding at the request of the family the name of the female pilot killed in the mid-air collision Wednesday night between an Army Black Hawk helicopter and a PSA/American Airlines passenger plane on final approach to Reagan National Airport
McConnell Still ‘Very Upset’ with
Trump — ‘We Haven’t Spoken for Quite
a While’
41 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 2:14:11 AM Post Reply
During Sunday’s broadcast of CBS’s “60 Minutes,” Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-KY) said he was still at odds with President Donald Trump despite his election victory last November. The Kentucky Republican said he still harbored ill-will for what he had alleged was Trump’s role in the January 6, 2021 Capitol riot. Partial transcript as follows: STAHL: How would you describe your relationship with President Trump? MCCONNELL: Well, we haven’t spoken for quite a while. I was very upset about what happened January 6. STAHL: You had to be evacuated from the Senate along with other leaders. Your staff was in your office. The rioters
BREAKING: DNC Elects Anti-Gun Activist
David Hogg as Vice Chair
35 replies
Posted by Imright 2/2/2025 8:26:53 AM Post Reply
They actually did it. Democrats have just elected David Hogg as the vice chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC). Ken Martin of Minnesota won the race for Chair. The diversity obsessed Democrats just elected two white guys to lead their party. (X Video) This is the new ‘youth’ voice of the Democratic party. (X Video) The Post Millennial reports: BREAKING: Anti-gun influencer David Hogg elected Vice-Chair of DNC Left-wing social media influencer David Hogg has been elected vice chair of the Democratic National Committee (DNC), making history as the first member of Generation Z to assume the position.
Joe Biden, 82, inks deal with powerhouse
agency CAA as ex-president potentially
eyes Hollywood ventures
28 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 4:23:48 PM Post Reply
Former President Joe Biden signed with Creative Arts Agency, a rep announced on Monday, indicating that the 82-year-old may be ready to start more Hollywood ventures after leaving the White House. Biden was previously represented by CAA after he left the vice presidency from 2017 to 2020. During that time as a client, he published his book “Promise Me, Dad,” and went on an “American Promise” tour across the country. (Photo) The former president has not specifically revealed what his life will look like in the coming years, but had said in the final days of his term that he expected his voice to continue to influence politics.
French gynaecologist suspended for refusing
to treat trans woman
27 replies
Posted by Hazymac 2/3/2025 9:54:30 AM Post Reply
A French gynaecologist has been barred from practising for a month because he refused to examine a transgender patient on the grounds that he was only qualified to treat “real women”. Dr Victor Acharian was accused of transphobia after he turned the patient away in August 2023, and LGBT groups lodged complaints. In December he appeared before a disciplinary board of the French Medical Council and he has now been suspended for a month from March 1, with an additional five months’ probation. Édouard Martial, a lawyer representing the patient, said: “We have the satisfaction of having confirmation that what happened that day was totally abnormal.” SOS Homophobie, a transgender activist group,
Lloyd Austin’s Ex-Chief of Staff Attacks
Pete Hegseth Over Plane Crash
27 replies
Posted by Imright 2/2/2025 12:46:01 PM Post Reply
Former President Joe Biden’s Secretary of Defense, Lloyd Austin, and former Chief of Staff, Kelly Magsamen, have sparked controversy by launching a personal attack on Pete Hegseth after a fatal plane crash involving a military helicopter and an American Airlines aircraft. In a sharp rebuke, the former defense official, who helped Austin cover up his absence from the Pentagon during a health crisis in January 2024, attacked Hegseth for his comments about DEI and falsely accused him of blaming the female co-pilot, Capt. Rebecca Lobach, for the incident.
James Carville Throws Kamala Harris Under
the Bus: ‘Couldn’t Put Together a
Sentence’ (Video)
27 replies
Posted by Imright 2/2/2025 8:29:37 AM Post Reply
James Carville has been complaining about his party for months and now he is telling everyone what he really thought of Kamala Harris as a candidate. It’s not good. He threw Harris under the bus as a ‘seventh string’ quarterback who ‘couldn’t put together a sentence.’ Carville made the remarks during a live event for Firing Line. Transcript via Real Clear Politics:JAMES CARVILLE: We ran a presidential election. If we were playing a Super Bowl, we started our 7th-string quarterback. That’s what happened. You can’t address a problem unless you’re honest about a problem. And none of this was inevitable. Now, if you were to put the staggering talent that exists
Scandal: Nearly $100 Billion in Ukraine
Aid Is Missing
25 replies
Posted by ladydawgfan 2/3/2025 1:44:53 PM Post Reply
Foreign aid to Ukraine has become a heated debate with Democrats — and a surprising number of Republicans — insisting that it’s essential for bolstering Ukraine’s defenses against Russia. Joe Biden even went so far as to suggest that Republican resistance to additional aid played a role in the death of Russian opposition leader Alexei Navalny. I could easily rattle off more quotes from Biden and congressional Democrats emphasizing just how critical they claim this aid to be. Biden was quick to make sure that Ukraine got even more aid before Trump took office. Despite the alleged critical nature of this aid, Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy
Mitch McConnell calls Trump tariffs ‘bad
idea’ but most Republicans toe line
23 replies
Posted by Dreadnought 2/3/2025 11:16:01 AM Post Reply
Republicans on Capitol Hill have largely fallen in line with Donald Trump’s move to impose tariffs on the US’s biggest trading partners, with the notable exception of the former Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell, who called it a “bad idea”. With even Trump admitting that the tariffs – 25% on imports from Canada and Mexico and 10% on China – might cause “some pain”, there was mostly strong support from the president’s loyalists. Jason Smith, chair of the ways and means committee of the House of Representatives, said the tariffs would “send a powerful message that the United States will no longer stand by
Democrat Gov. Murphy Admits to Harboring
‘Illegal Alien’ in His Home — Brazenly
Dares Feds to Intervene
22 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 4:47:51 PM Post Reply
New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy openly admitted that he and his wife, First Lady Tammy Murphy, are personally harboring an illegal immigrant in their own home—practically daring federal authorities to step in. During a recent event with Blue Wave New Jersey, Murphy nonchalantly revealed that an individual whose “immigration status is not yet at the point that they are trying to get it to” is currently residing above his garage. Murphy’s comments came during a broader discussion about the new Trump administration’s policies. While refusing to disclose specific details, the governor made his position clear:
Dozens of Democrat Leaders Lament They
Have No ‘Coherent Message’ to Fight Trump
22 replies
Posted by Imright 2/3/2025 7:22:53 AM Post Reply
Dozens of Democrat leaders are reportedly struggling to find a “coherent message” to fight President Donald Trump. The New York Times reported Sunday that, at private meetings and public events, Democrats “appear leaderless, rudderless, and divided.” Democrats have elected Ken Martin to be their next Democrat National Committee (DNC) chair, who will conduct a post-election review largely based on tactics and messaging. Now, the Times said after more than 50 interviews with Democrat leaders they cannot figure out what the party should stand for, what issues they should focus on, and how to confront Trump.
Schumer Under Investigation While Trump
Reshapes Washington
21 replies
Posted by Moritz55 2/2/2025 4:35:07 PM Post Reply
Senator Chuck Schumer is a lawyer, so presumably he is familiar with the provisions of 18 U.S. Code § 115. In case he has forgotten—after all, there are a lot of statutes to keep track of—Edward R. Martin, Jr., the Interim D.C. U.S. Attorney, is in the process of reminding him. Among other things, that statute holds that anyone who threatens a federal government official or their family with the “intent to impede, intimidate, or interfere with such official, judge, or law enforcement officer while engaged in the performance of official duties, or with intent to retaliate against such official, judge, or law enforcement officer on account of the performance
Post New Article