'Highly insensitive' carousel horse
at a Thornton park removed
KMGH-TV [DENVER, CO],
by
Gary Brode
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
6/8/2021 9:41:07 AM
THORNTON, Colo. — A carousel horse at a park has been removed after the city was made aware of it's insensitive imagery. Over the weekend, M.J. Jimenez was riding the park's carousel with her 8-year-old niece. That's when she noticed the horse in front of her. "My mouth dropped open when I realize it was a Native American head in a saddle bag," said Jimenez of the carousel. The carousel was made in the 1920s. It was purchased by the City of Thornton from a local store that went out of business. It was moved to Carpenter Park in 2013.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Moritz55 6/8/2021 9:47:08 AM (No. 809496)
Head in a saddlebag? I’m surprised that anyone ever thought that was appropriate for a children’s ride, and I totally get why it’s offensive — regardless of the head’s race.
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Not sure it shows a head “in” a saddle bag. It’s a head. Looks alive a well with eyes open and not I distress. Pictures aren’t clear.
But, regardless, what a stupid dispute.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Quigley 6/8/2021 9:56:56 AM (No. 809507)
Yeah, barbaric. Not insensitive. Probably designed by a dim follower of andrew jackson. Dissolve the dim party, distribute dims’ assets to the people they abused.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
ramona 6/8/2021 9:58:17 AM (No. 809515)
Agree with Poster #2. Though I thought the face looked like Bob Hope....
Native Americans were long portrayed in very negative ways. Today there is a tendency to deify them. Both extremes are unhealthy.
Ramona (the Pest)
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 6/8/2021 10:02:28 AM (No. 809519)
I've looked at all the pictures, and while I see the Indian head, I don't see a saddlebag. As far as I'm concerned, it is a tempest in a teapot.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
bpl40 6/8/2021 10:07:11 AM (No. 809527)
For tens of thousands of years since modern humans left Africa, there have been migrations, conflicts, settlements and assimilations. The more efficient and advanced overcome those that cannot cope. It is the law of nature. There is nothing inherently immoral about it. No one is oppressing 'Native' (their ancestors came here during the Ice Age) Americans today. That IMO, should be enough.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Sully 6/8/2021 10:12:24 AM (No. 809534)
I saw the thing. There was no saddle bag. It is just a decorative image of an Indian head like a totem. Indian feathers beneath. Certainly not a decapitated head.
Hey was that a noose tied to the horse's mouth as a reigns? Please...
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It's decorative. Sick of these pathetic snowflakes and their imagined butthurt over crap that doesn't affect them in ANY way.
Grow up, sack up, and S T . U.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 6/8/2021 10:19:13 AM (No. 809544)
Some would call it art. I saw a head. Not sure I saw a saddle bag. Definitely can see how some would find this insulting. Would a child be creeped out by it? More likely by the horses themselves. Whatever. Don't really care in this case.
Why am I remembering the movie '8 Heads in a Duffel Bag'?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
ROLFNader 6/8/2021 10:24:13 AM (No. 809548)
Sometimes I wonder what it must be like to not have enough problems that this HORROR! sets you off for the rest of your unnatural life.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
maryann4629 6/8/2021 10:26:37 AM (No. 809550)
Well, they could just paint it to look like a settler. That would be okay, I guess.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Quigley 6/8/2021 10:31:42 AM (No. 809560)
Guilty! Of two posts and giving any credence to a story by a “journalist” and not looking at the picture.
Why would i trust the screed of a “journalist“?
There is no “saddlebag.” There is no decapitated head.
And for God’s sake don’t depict any of the heinous torture methods practiced by native Americans before they became frozen as being pure as the driven snow.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
earlybird 6/8/2021 10:39:56 AM (No. 809574)
Were there any white scalps hanging on the horses?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
HPmatt 6/8/2021 10:45:51 AM (No. 809579)
Show'em history - moms & kids w brains bashes out on rocks.....indians & american settlers.....showem crows pecking out tasty parts.....
I wonder what is behind all of the horses on today's merry go rounds - folks twerking, grinding hips & pelvic thrusts - jeez - you see that on tv, let alone the Internet.....watch MTV, listen to radio lyrics.....
GEEZ - an INDIAN HEAD with FEATHERS.....HORROR>>>>
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
GO3 6/8/2021 10:47:16 AM (No. 809582)
Of course, a bloody Trump head would be OK.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
formerNYer 6/8/2021 10:48:23 AM (No. 809583)
I'm not PC but a head (any head - any race) in a saddle bag is inappropriate.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Safari Man 6/8/2021 10:54:43 AM (No. 809589)
When they twist the words to say things that it's not, then you know you are dealing with out of control PC. Seems to me they wanted to put an indian figure on their artwork, they put in where there was room. What ever. Its Aunt Jemima, Uncle Ben's all over again. They're just looking for ways to be offended and they get to jerk people around for fun and profit.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
volksford 6/8/2021 11:00:06 AM (No. 809593)
That is a Native American pony you see the bow and the feather decorations so I would assume a Native American warrior would be riding. Many carousel horses depicted "Indian' ponies in the early 1900's.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Condor44 6/8/2021 11:03:43 AM (No. 809596)
These people are nuts! No saddle bag, just a decorative head as well as a bow. Typical of decorative carvings of the era.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
NamVet70 6/8/2021 11:05:50 AM (No. 809599)
I guess we can all be very thankful that concerned citizens are protecting us from this potentially offensive image. (If you can't tell, this is satire.)
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
red1066 6/8/2021 11:15:29 AM (No. 809611)
Seems kind of odd for a carousel horse even in the 1920's, but who knows. At that time the country was only a few decades removed from Indian attacks, and Civil War veterans were still around, and some states out west were still considered the wild west. One needs to put things in perspective.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 6/8/2021 11:17:38 AM (No. 809619)
It's shape could have been repainted into a watermelon to appease one race and offend another one. If the left can cancel Columbus it certain can go after a poor carousel horse. Repaint it to look like Trump then the left could celebrate. I would have been fine reading the article with one picture until that activist mouth piece Porrier got involved and spoke up for the Indians.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Cindiana 6/8/2021 11:19:38 AM (No. 809622)
No concern for all those horses impaled on steel poles?
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 6/8/2021 11:23:55 AM (No. 809635)
History surrounds us and it's our job to eradicate instead of thinking about it.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
TLCary 6/8/2021 11:28:37 AM (No. 809643)
FTA: "It’s just further proof that American culture has frozen native Americans in the past".
1. That was a quick thaw, considering how fast the decoration was gone, (it wasn't a decapitated head)
2. Now that American Indians (everyone born here in America is a naive American) aren't "frozen in the past" then they are US Citizens just like the rest of us and Casino laws apply to them just like everyone else.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
kono 6/8/2021 12:00:44 PM (No. 809685)
While the image in question could have been more gracefully-placed or portrayed, it is not portraying a decapitated head. On the other hand, the notorious image featuring (so-called 'comedian') Kathy Griffin holding President Donald Trump's severed head in one hand and a bloody butcher knife in the other, and I suspect many of those claiming offense at this native's head had no issue at all with that one.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Namma 6/8/2021 12:05:19 PM (No. 809690)
Did not see a saddlebag. I bet the face image was just carved onto the horse. Like other images carved onto the body of the horses. Some have flowers. Other saddle decorations. I would think if a person wanted to shame Indians the carvings would have shown an Indian scalping a Calvary soldier. They weren’t called savages because they were cuddly little things. Love that those two women are indigenous people. Says a lot.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
JunkYardDog 6/8/2021 12:44:42 PM (No. 809714)
They could have just made it look like Chuck Schumer and moved the face right next to the horses @zz.
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As soon as we read the social media posts Monday morning, Thornton staff members went out and looked at the horse and removed it from the carousel.
So instead of contacting the City she just posted it on "social media". Hope the next time that someone has a problem with her they go strait to social media instead of her.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
NYbob 6/8/2021 1:21:16 PM (No. 809756)
If you blindly accept the twisted narrative of every moron that is suddenly a media star because they say something outrageous, you have already entered the nuthouse. Every artwork is not always going to be a winner. First, there is NO saddlebag. The Indian 'motif' is not elegantly incorporated into the total sculpture, but no one alive knows the situation at the time of creation. 'Hey, we need an Indian brave somewhere in the horses.' Well, there is only one left, I can put an Indian face on the back behind the saddle. If I just put feathers on the horse, it won't make sense. Some version of that conversation or more likely the manager saw an Indian so, ship it. We are way behind on delivery. Meanwhile, what about the severed heads of 4 Presidents on Mt Rushmore? Also the National Portrait Gallery has all kinds of severed bits. There is a portrait of FDR with severed hands around his head. Not really, they are painter's studies for the final portrait, but if Jimenez is going to be the new judge of what is acceptable, we have to burn a lot of art that M.J. can't figure out.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
Newtsche 6/8/2021 2:18:41 PM (No. 809820)
Could be a centaur going the wrong way.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
TexaTucky 6/8/2021 2:47:45 PM (No. 809850)
Cover the face in white paint and call it a Kamala Cookie.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
seal010101 6/8/2021 3:03:44 PM (No. 809867)
It looks like Jaco Pastorius, not a Native American.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
sciteach 6/8/2021 5:52:11 PM (No. 810009)
Love how they had to cover it up so nobodies eyes were burned out of their heads. So there is an image of an Indian and people have fits and on and on. It's a stinking ride and nobody cared except some over-sensitive Indian and self-hating white person. Good grief.
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For 100 years no one was offended by the Indian imagery. I guess carousel horses are now fair game for the PC police.