It Could Take HOW LONG to Rebuild Francis
Scott Key Bridge???
PJ Media,
by
Stephen Green
Original Article
Posted By: ladydawgfan,
3/29/2024 4:53:44 PM
Could it really take twice as long and four times as much money to replace the collapsed Francis Scott Key Bridge than it did to build it in the first place?
The Key Bridge was built at a cost (adjusted for inflation) of about $200 million. Replacing it could take a decade and cost $400 million to $800 million dollars, according to experts in what has become a dismal field.
“To actually recreate that whole transportation network" could take a decade or more, structural engineer Ben Schafer told USA Today on Wednesday. Huge projects, Schafer said, now take “rarely less than 10 years."
Well, they didn't use to.
By comparison, the Apollo program
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
JimBob 3/29/2024 4:59:09 PM (No. 1688492)
The cost and the time required to process through all the legal 'red tape' and regulations often costs more than the cost and time to build the project.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
plomke 3/29/2024 5:00:21 PM (No. 1688495)
Shovel ready jobs...
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
padiva 3/29/2024 5:13:14 PM (No. 1688507)
Hire PDT. It will be on time and under budget.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 3/29/2024 5:24:46 PM (No. 1688515)
Racial quotas. Check.
Environmental permits. Check.
Resource authorizations. Check.
The paperwork should be ready in five years.
Budget? We don't need no stinkin' budget!
Just keep writing the checks when we demand them.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 3/29/2024 5:36:56 PM (No. 1688523)
If the UniParty gets involved the FSK bridge will never get re-built. Bureaucrats love to tinker with shite. Do what Mississippi did.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
spacer 3/29/2024 5:42:24 PM (No. 1688527)
Get an American like the guy that rebuilt Sanfransico road bridges in the 80s. Did it in a quarter of the time government guessed it would take Cut through garbage red tape and muitiple fifedoms of all levels of govenment fraud . Like the great American fulllasufer Larry the cable guy once said...."just git er done".
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Cindiana 3/29/2024 5:50:24 PM (No. 1688530)
I'm more interested in the new name they'll give it.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
rememberwhen 3/29/2024 6:14:05 PM (No. 1688539)
Just think what a disaster it would be if a miscreant decides to replicate this at Norfolk and block much of the US fleet in Norfolk harbor.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Birddog 3/29/2024 6:20:59 PM (No. 1688544)
expect them to decide to make it a double span...with fast rail.
I'm looking forward to them explaining WHERE they are going to get the steel for it, no USA Company even makes that structural steel anymore, they shut down all the Mills, forges and Plants. Shipped all of that "Dirty" industrial capacity(and jobs) over seas.
A couple of years ago a tanker truck hit a bridge over I75 in Detroit, shutting down a MAJOR regional corridor. They cleared the wrecked stuff in RECORD time, reopening the highway. When it came time to replace the collapsed and removed bridge...someone from the City Streets Dept mentioned that the feeder roads on either side of it and their intersections were already scheduled and budgeted to be revamped within the next couple of years..."Perhaps we could save time and money by doing it all at the same time, Traffic will be shut down anyway" GREAT IDEA!(Govt actually working) Next, another Roads/Bridges dept piped up and mentioned, "Ya know, they have already scheduled and budgeted to widen that stretch of I 75, and it was going to require a LONGER bridge at that very spot, we could save time and money by installing the longer one now as we are replacing it anyway, it will tie into the feeder road and intersection project seamlessly,and traffic isn't going to be an issue" GREAT IDEA!(Govt actually working)...Next, the State/Federal agency in charge of overall highways chimed in..."Ya know, under our 50 year plan one of the goals is to increase the bridge clearance heights for ALL the bridges through this region...as long as we are going to be working right there anyway...Maybeee..."
And THAT is where it went off the rails, instead of just building the replacement bridge a little higher(they could have raised it SIX FEET and it wouldn't have interfered with anything) They decided to tear up all 6 lanes of I75 and LOWER the entire highway through that section, backing up traffic for miles, for YEARS, and causing hundreds of wrecks. It was finally finished, the roads re-opened...and then it RAINED, and the entire newly lowered stretch FLOODED, where the old highway never had before.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 3/29/2024 6:22:01 PM (No. 1688547)
Ten years to replace? Not even close. Two maybe three years probably. $800 million price tag? Yes very likely. Dont forget the dollar has lost considerae value in the 50 years since the original bridge was designed and built. And construction cost have gone way up.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
joew9 3/29/2024 6:29:17 PM (No. 1688554)
They need Ron DeSantis to get things done. He came through on Hurricane Ian.
MSM: "It's going to take a year or more and a whole bunch of ferries will be required."
DeSantis (two weeks after hurricane): "It's done."
Roads were open. Traffic restored. Final polished repair to take a bit longer but functionality was restored in two weeks. NOT two years like the MSM predicted.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Birddog 3/29/2024 6:31:02 PM (No. 1688557)
How long can it take???
They started on the intersection of 86/81 in Binghamton NY when I was about 13-14 years old, not driving yet, but we passed through there on the way to our family's farm several times a year. It is STILL under construction, I'm 65 now. Two entire GENERATIONS of Union Hwy workers have put in their 20yeras and retired after only working on that ONE intersection, the third generation may as well..
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
DVC 3/29/2024 7:01:33 PM (No. 1688579)
A decade is ridiculously slow. A competent engineering team could do it in a couple of year or less, is the government slugs don't try to tie them in knots with bureaucratic "permits" and "studies", and just make a mess of it.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
red1066 3/29/2024 7:06:33 PM (No. 1688582)
If they want to turn a blue state red, start @$%#&+&* around rebuilding the Fransis Scott Key bridge with an overabundance of regs, requirements. People in this state are in no mood after this with government double talk. They know it will take time to rebuild, but anything over four or five years will raise mountains of anger, and those angry voters are less than forty miles away from D.C.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 3/29/2024 7:37:54 PM (No. 1688593)
Democrats always like to have infrastructure project last a long time.
Doubt President Trump will allow them to take such a long time.
#9 makes a good point about the U.S. steel mills that are closed which I'm sure Trump and the RNC will be reminding many about in the coming months (or should).
The optics of this are horrible for the Democrats particularly with the ILA (longshoremen) contract expiring Sept 30th and their threat of a strike if they don't get more than what the ILWU received on the West Coast.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
MickTurn 3/29/2024 9:45:20 PM (No. 1688661)
Gotta keep those Unions Working. Put it up for bids, NO Unions!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 3/29/2024 9:55:56 PM (No. 1688668)
It's gangster shite. Everyone has to get their taste. By the time it's over, it will cost $2.25 billion. Watch and see.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Pault135 3/29/2024 10:25:47 PM (No. 1688689)
The Nice Bridge on US route 301 which crosses the Potomac River at the Maryland/Virginia border is longer than the Key Bridge (1.7 mi v. 1.6 miles), has 4 lanes of traffic and is aesthetically pleasing tool 27 months to build. Why will it take 10 years to rebuild the Key Bridge?
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 3/29/2024 11:11:08 PM (No. 1688704)
How many TRILLIONS will be wasted building another Erector Set? Build a Tunnel and be done with it.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Trigger2 3/30/2024 2:40:44 AM (No. 1688750)
Joey says taxpayers will pay the bill to clean out that harbor. He's spending unavailable taxpayer money right and left and hopes to get it out of billionaires. Good luck with that one. The shipping company should pay the bill.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Strike3 3/30/2024 3:05:13 AM (No. 1688755)
That's probably a lowball estimate given the average inflation of many big and highly visible projects in this country (see Boston and LA). Adding Joe Biden's imaginary railroad tracks will add another few hundred million to the cost.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
mifla 3/30/2024 5:27:48 AM (No. 1688777)
How long? Depends upon who gets the job to fix it.
In WWII, prior to Midway, the USS Yorktown was barely floating after the battle of the Coral Sea.
Nimitz needed the Yorktown before going after the Japanese at Midway.
The shipyard manager said he needed ninety days for repairs. Nimitz gave him three days.
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I had a friend whose company worked on one of the bridges in Mississippi that was destroyed by Katrina. They had been told by DOT bigwigs that replacing it would take more than 5 years. The Mississippi government said. "Hold my sweet tea!" The bridge was replaced, start to finish, in just over 18 months! My friend said that they designed each section as it was being built and while all codes and safety requirements were met and exceeded, the idea of getting such a vital bridge reopened ASAP was key to the plans. We CAN have nice things. The federal government just needs to get out of the way!!