After teen's death on Calif. coast, fences
to be required on public and private land
SF Gate,
by
Katie Dowd
Original Article
Posted By: konocti95,
11/15/2023 12:10:26 PM
Sweeping safety changes are coming to Isla Vista after a teenager's fatal fall, Santa Barbara County officials announced. On Tuesday, the Board of Supervisors "approved a comprehensive set of safety enhancements for the Isla Vista Bluffs," the county wrote in a press release. The initiative was spurred by the death of Santa Barbara City College student Benjamin “Benny” Schurmer. The 19-year-old fell to his death from an Isla Vista cliff on Sept. 2, the 13th such death since 1994.
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
mc squared 11/15/2023 12:18:38 PM (No. 1599157)
Tragic deaths yes, but adding a memorial "to commemorate those lost in cliff falls".
How about memorials for people looking at their phones while crossing the street?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
konocti95 11/15/2023 12:35:08 PM (No. 1599165)
One high/drunk "youth" dies every couple of years so. It's probably one of the highest density Darwin Award locations in the country.
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"It is essential to acknowledge that alcohol and drug use have played significant roles in some of the cliff falls that have occurred in Isla Vista over the years," the county wrote...
But "the county" then goes on to say that alcohol and drug use underscore the need for these robust safety measures. Nothing makes sense anymore.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
SkyKing1222 11/15/2023 12:49:59 PM (No. 1599178)
So……
You get drunk, fall off a cliff…,
And it’s someone else’s fault?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Right Time 11/15/2023 12:51:22 PM (No. 1599179)
Maybe they can open a campsite on Isla Vista Bluffs for San Francisco’s homeless
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 11/15/2023 1:07:17 PM (No. 1599184)
People who fall off cliffs don't read statutes.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
DVC 11/15/2023 1:10:59 PM (No. 1599187)
Modern people are so used to EVERYTHING having 'guardrails' that too many have no concept of personal responsibility for their own safety. People walk off cliffs while taking selfies with sad regularity.
I saw this many years ago when climbing Half Dome in Yosemite, on the easy 'back side'. You climb a cliff via a steep trail alongsideVernal Falls, then up beside Nevada Falls, the second being about 600 ft, IIRC, straight down. At the tip, in the fall when the water flow is low, when we were there, the stream that feeds the falls are much lower flow. During the spring runoff, the flow over the lip of the falls is maybe 30-50 feet wide, and the water flow has over the millennia, made an almost glassy smooth, wide radius lip of the falls....which is just the edge of a cliff. It just steadily, smoothly rolls over from the horizontal to the vertical.
Much is dry, smooth rock in the fall. No rails, nothing to grab, smooth slick, water polished granite rolling over in perhaps a 8 foot radius curvature. Also there is a rock pool just back from the edge which is nice for swimming if you are brave enough. We thought it a foolish risk, but many folks didn't. We were in our mid 20s, but still had developed some self preservation instincts from years of wilderness travel.
There were several young people sitting well out on this curving polished granite as the angle was steadily rolling over into the vertical. Three or four while I was there were far beyond anything that I would consider even remotely safe. If they misjudged the friction of their shoes and started to slip....NOTHING was going to stop them for 600 feet to the rocks below.
Too many people have an undeveloped self preservation instinct. IMO, leave off the guardrails and the fences. Perhaps put up some warning signs back from the edge, even pictographic for the illiterates, but people have to take care of themselves.....or die, in so many different aspects of life.
Old saying, "Stupidity is a universal capital crime." I throw in "The laws of physics will be strictly enforced." and "Gravity is relentless".
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Protecting people from themselves. Leftists specialize in this. Fence contractors will profit from this.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Felixed 11/15/2023 1:39:42 PM (No. 1599209)
Methinks our Public Servants will vainly attempt to put Darwin out of work...
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
downnout 11/15/2023 2:10:24 PM (No. 1599221)
What are they going to do when some smart-aleck kid decides to climb over the fence?
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Several years ago, I visited Horseshoe Canyon in Alberta, Canada. You could walk right up to the edge of the canyon, without a rail in sight. I imagine that's what Our Country was like back in the 1950's. If you're too stupid to stay away from the edge, tough!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
chillijilli 11/15/2023 2:30:38 PM (No. 1599229)
I'm sorry, but they aren't addressing the REAL problem---which is the ocean. There would be no cliffs if there were no ocean so I suggest we immediately take steps to ban the sea.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
voxpopuli 11/15/2023 2:48:01 PM (No. 1599238)
perhaps they could just provide a bunch of ropes that
these people could hang onto if they are going too
close to the edge.. or tie it about their neck..
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
red1066 11/15/2023 3:56:37 PM (No. 1599278)
Are fences going to go up all along the coast highway? People have been falling off those cliffs for decades.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
garyhope 11/15/2023 8:25:49 PM (No. 1599404)
Yes,....we must pass laws to protect the stupid, naive and clumsy. Death is natures way of thinning the herd of the stupid and incompetent. That is not a bad thing.
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