Major signs of another coming Dark Age
— collapsing the West could make history repeat
New York Post,
by
Victor Davis Hanson
Original Article
Posted By: mc squared,
12/22/2025 9:36:18 AM
Western civilization arose in Greece in the 8th century BC, when some 1,500 city-states emerged from a murky, illiterate, 400-year Dark Age.
That chaos followed the utter collapse of the palatial culture of Mycenaean Greece.
But what re-emerged were constitutional government, rationalism, liberty, freedom of expression, self-critique and free markets — what we know now as the foundation of a unique Western civilization.[snip]
From the Atlantic to the Persian Gulf and from the Rhine and Danube to the Sahara were a million square miles of safety, prosperity, progress and science — until the collapse of the Western Roman Empire in the 5th century AD.
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chumley 12/22/2025 9:56:41 AM (No. 2044102)
All these things have been known for a long time. Our "leaders" know about it. They see where we've been and where we're going. So why do they allow it? Why dont they turn it around? Is the system just so huge that nobody has the power to change the direction of this snowball rolling down the hill? Has our experiment in self government failed completely? It would seem so. I don't want it to be true but the evidence is there.
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Recovering from Islam or Chinese Communism will take longer than 400 years…
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VDH’s historical view is absolutely correct. The Preacher in Ecclesiastes says it more concisely: Ecclesiastes 1:9 - “What has been is what will be, and what has been done is what will be done, and there is nothing new under the sun.”
The question for those of us who live “under the sun” is WHY!?!
Romans 1:18-32 tells us, and we must listen! God’s law of loving Him and loving neighbor has been broken, His word has not been followed, and His Son has not been believed on in the world.
Psalm 2 gives the clear truth. Verses 10-12 give the only remedy: Psalm 2:10 -“Now therefore, O kings, be wise; be warned, O rulers of the earth.
Serve the LORD with fear, and rejoice with trembling.
Kiss the Son, lest he be angry, and you perish in the way, for his wrath is quickly kindled.
Blessed are all who take refuge in him.
Believe on the LORD JESUS CHRIST, and you will be saved!
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Jesuslover54 12/22/2025 11:05:03 AM (No. 2044135)
AI says kill em all, let God sort them out.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
marbles 12/22/2025 11:05:28 AM (No. 2044136)
Outlaw islam.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Socio 12/22/2025 11:16:36 AM (No. 2044145)
History is not going to repeat itself, this time will be very different, the White race will be wiped out, with that human advancement will not just stop, it will roll in reverse. This time there will be a global totalitarian system put in place, limited specific populations, cradle to grave indoctrination 24/7 surveillance of every aspect of their lives etc... to ensure complete perpetual control. There will be no way out because there won't be anyone left with the ability to find one.
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cor-vet 12/22/2025 12:08:05 PM (No. 2044162)
The coasts and the dem run cities are already in the dark ages, as far as I can see. I don't believe it will be quite so bad, out here in the common sense country side. Where I'm living, we still raise a lot of our food, including protein, and we also hunt for food. The macho dudes with the man buns aren't going to fare to well if they venture out here in the hopes of taking over!
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DVC 12/22/2025 12:53:31 PM (No. 2044171)
It will last adequately, I estimate, until I run out my remaining years, but the young people today are so lazy, uneducated, brainwashed to socialism/communism and so convinced that they are absolutely entitled to affluence for just showing up, that I think VDH is probably right. How deep the coming Dark Age goes depends on what the next two or three generations do. So far, I think about 25% of the next generation are on the ball, and have no good estimate of the follow on to them.
But, I'll be gone....and likely, so will the civilization and country that I love.
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JackBurton 12/22/2025 1:26:50 PM (No. 2044179)
I love VDH and respect his scholarship. (Currently reading his Ripples of Battle and absolutely floored by his revelations about the implications of the Battle of Shiloh). With that said, there is an additional reason for the fall of Rome: Islam. There are plenty of Youtube vids by Bill Warner and one that explains that Islamic expansion and destruction of Roman economic systems and trade practices weakened and emptied the Roman cities. THAT needs to be included.
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DVC 12/22/2025 3:41:03 PM (No. 2044217)
Re: Islam.....no, Rome didn't fall due to Islam, since Mohammed lived long after Rome had collapsed due to the Germanic tribes of northern Europe, and internal rot.
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doctorfixit 12/22/2025 11:42:36 PM (No. 2044360)
We are witnessing simultaneous invasion by Islam, third world scum, and domestic goons squads paid by Soros. An oblivious nation
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Impossible to fit all of Hanson's parallels into this short excerpt.
Another crusade due?