California could get its first gasoline
pipeline. Would that lower gas prices?
Los Angeles Times,
by
Hayley Smith
Original Article
Posted By: sunset,
11/26/2025 3:19:29 PM
California has long been a “fuel island” — a state whose gasoline and diesel markets are isolated from the rest of the country — but that could soon end under a proposed plan to build the first-ever pipeline to bring refined products directly to the West Coast. Known as the Western Gateway Pipeline, the project from oil major Phillips 66 and global pipeline giant Kinder Morgan would deliver gasoline, diesel and jet fuel to Arizona and California from as far east as Missouri by 2029. The companies are currently scoping out demand and seeking commitments from customers in what is known as an “open season.”
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
ladydawgfan 11/26/2025 3:28:54 PM (No. 2034392)
Forgive my skepticism, but the left and the earth nazis will NEVER let this go through!!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
thefield 11/26/2025 4:27:53 PM (No. 2034406)
No, they have a series of taxes coming up that will add two dollars a gallon.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 11/26/2025 4:29:13 PM (No. 2034408)
No pipelines were possible in the country under the Demonrats.....and now Cali gets one?
I'm betting that the Cali ecocrazies will block this one for the next 20 years.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
BocaLaura 11/26/2025 5:05:41 PM (No. 2034418)
Perhaps in the rest of the country, but California would never allow prices to go down there. Taxes and fees.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
KTWO 11/26/2025 5:12:57 PM (No. 2034420)
I haven't studied the proposal but it sounds crazy. Why pump gasoline hundreds or a thousand miles to and around a state with existing oil fields, refineries, and ports.
And in CA gasoline demand is almost totally near the coast, it is not inland.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Birddog 11/26/2025 6:36:24 PM (No. 2034433)
The last new refinery in California was completed in 1976, at that time there were 33 refineries, they have closed 20 of them now. Two more closing as we speak. They have intentionally made it tooooo expensive to drill, produce, pipe, refine there.Though the state is the largest consumer of petroleum products.
The Greens say, "It’s a band-aid on a much bigger challenge,” said Ryan Schleeter, communications director with the nonprofit The Climate Center. “The solution is really to chart the course for a managed transition away from relying on gas to a more electrified future.”
Not only are pipelines prone to leaks and spills...but Electrical Lines are as well, nearly EVERY major fire that has devastated millions of acres, thousands of structures, cost $billions of Dollars has been started by...an "Electrical Leak/Spill", even most urban house/building/business fires are "Electrical causes"
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
thefield 11/26/2025 6:41:05 PM (No. 2034434)
#3 it help increase the costs of the climate crazies.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
czechlist 11/26/2025 7:07:16 PM (No. 2034441)
Great. Doesn't Kalifornika have enough targets for their enviro-nuts?
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 11/26/2025 7:10:52 PM (No. 2034443)
The California elites want to steal the whole state so they make it impossible to live there and own anything. This is what the homeless, the taxes, and the 'wildfires' are all about.
It's a multi-generational plan.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Birddog 11/26/2025 7:28:06 PM (No. 2034451)
Pay attention to the details...the part IN california already exists, it exports fuel from the Phillips plant in Colton to Texas, that plant will be closed and the pipeline reversed to IMPORT even more fuels. Just as the opposite end is an existing pipeline to St Louis FROM Texas...which will be reversed to provide the supply....instead of Importing fuel from Texas, other pipelines will be reversed to allow St Louis to "Import/tranship" fuels originally from Canada, via Illinois refineries. Sooo...instead of drilling and refining their own oil, or getting replacement oil from Texas, California will be getting Canadian oil/gas, via Chicago...and shipping it 2500 miles instead of 730miles.
Where NEW Pipes have to be built is IN Texas, because the existing shipping/receiving plants and Lines already there will not be "Part of this deal", Additionally this does NOTHING for any part of California north of Los Angeles, whatever fuel comes in will have to be shipped by sea, or driven by trucks/trains north from there..
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
jimincalif 11/26/2025 7:34:09 PM (No. 2034454)
Lower prices in CA? Not likely. But the pipeline would enable California to outsource its refining and hoover up the output of out of state refineries, thereby raising prices for the rest of us who don’t live in (or have fled) CA. Oil companies and refineries are shrewd businesses, they see a market that is (1) paying 25%-40% above market for fuel, and (2) will be underserved as their own refineries shut down. Why sell fuel in Missouri, Louisiana, Arkansas, etc. when you can pipe it to CA for a premium price that will well offset pipeline transport costs?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
stablemoney 11/26/2025 7:57:16 PM (No. 2034457)
Ca. pretends to be green, while importing their energy from somewhere else.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 11/26/2025 8:02:27 PM (No. 2034460)
Would these pipelines filled with fuels cross over the San Andreas Fault? Could be interesting when the earth lurches several feet sideways some day.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
earlybird 11/26/2025 8:16:42 PM (No. 2034465)
Hayley has it wrong. California was awash in active oil drillng and huge oil refineries. There was never a shortage of gasoline and as as I know there is none now. CA gas is expensive because or the environmental constraints and the taxes levied by he Dem legislature.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Timber Queen 11/26/2025 8:45:51 PM (No. 2034477)
#11 - The reason our gas price per gallon is high is due to the taxes...a trunk-load of percentages shaved off the top go directly to the state. Refineries get a very small portion of the gas money shelled out by we captured consumers.
#14 - Brava!
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
earlybird 11/26/2025 10:20:57 PM (No. 2034496)
Why do I see his prospect as givng Gavin more gray hair? He hae us all on ikes...
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
earlybird 11/26/2025 10:35:53 PM (No. 2034501)
Here is the answer: Get rid of Gavin. Get rid of the Dem legislature. Go ack to being the many decade long Repulican state that we were for many many many many years before the Dems flooded in. Our very worst Dem pols all are from the Midwest and East. As adults. Even Ron DeSantis admits California is a wonderful place to live.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 11/26/2025 10:51:53 PM (No. 2034507)
Thinking ahead, there might be a chance of approval when the legislators see it as a way to alleviate their teetering state's financial situation. Open up the drilling and refineries and wholesale prices of fuel will drop. If the cost per gallon drops then it opens the door to increasing the gas tax because the public will pay the same as before and won't be aware because the price at the pump will stay the same. The state will get to keep p****** more money away on trains to nowhere, other waste and political grifting. This is one case where the green loons might have to go to the back of the bus.. Money talks and politicians' greed will always win.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Birddog 11/27/2025 12:57:38 AM (No. 2034516)
On the plus side to Calif shutting down all of their Oil/Gas production, refining, and power generation...when they finally go tooo far, and are in open declared rebellion, it will be verrrrry easy to just "Cut them off" from all sources of power, block the mountain passes, RR lines, blockade the two main Ports, the people will revolt against their state elected leaders, as well as loot/burn/pillage all of the places that have 4 story or taller buildings. When the smoke clears..."The People" will demand a Republican form of Govt.with Law and Order, lower taxes, fewer regulations, ANYTHING that is actually proven to WORK.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Strike3 11/27/2025 3:53:47 AM (No. 2034524)
What once made California a great place to live is the abundant natural beauty and the perfect climate. They still have that but everything else has been screwed up so badly that living there has become a nightmare for many. The outgoing flow of U-Hauls is not an accident. Every politician having a "D" after his name is the reason.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Venturer 11/27/2025 7:55:06 AM (No. 2034567)
So what's the good news? A pipeline to deliver a special Kalifornia blend to a people who have consistently voted to destroy the oil industry? What the hell. Let them drive their electric semi trucks a electric cars that they refuse to build power plants for. To hell with Kalifornians. Let them live in an oil desert, that is what they vote for.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Kafka2 11/27/2025 9:44:32 AM (No. 2034597)
The pipeline folks should think twice about building the pipeline to California. California has abundant petroleum resources, but has essentially killed their petroleum industry due to their regulations against it. What is there to prevent California from regulating the proposed pipeline to death?
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
coyote 11/27/2025 1:39:02 PM (No. 2034681)
if it raises supply relative to demand, sure prices will go down. but you have to remember, at the pump, you are paying for government maybe more than you are paying for gas. If the boys and girls in Sacramento want more government, then you might not see a reduction at the pump.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
MickTurn 11/27/2025 8:31:18 PM (No. 2034745)
NO, NewScum and his Thugs will raise gas taxes then STEAL ALL OF IT!
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
swarfer 11/27/2025 9:44:08 PM (No. 2034754)
Of course this will never happen or it would have happened already. The political landscape there has not changed and probably is worse than ever. Live in TX, AR, LA or OK and you don’t have to worry about such things.
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