EV Virtue Signaling Reaches The End Of
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Posted By: RockyTCB,
10/10/2025 7:30:19 AM
October is a month for political surprises, it’s been said. But one turn of events this month was not the least bit shocking. We’ve been following the flameout of the electric vehicle for years. It was quite predictable.
Up until Oct. 1, Americans could reel in generous federal subsidies in exchange for buying an electric vehicle. A new EV or plug-in hybrid pulled down a $7,500 tax credit. A used EV or plug-in got $4,000. Now those subsidies are gone, thanks to the One Big Beautiful Bill signed by President Donald Trump on July 4, and EV sales are expected
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Reply 1 - Posted by:
franq 10/10/2025 8:07:52 AM (No. 2014856)
I burst into laughter watching the news, a couple nights ago. The item stated Tesla was coming out with "cheaper" versions of their popular Model 3 and some other model... Want to bet it's the same car?
I remember reading on this site, some years ago, that after a government incentive was given, Ford raised the price of its electric truck by the same amount.
Hello!!!! Anybody home?!?!?! Think, McFly!!!!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Hazymac 10/10/2025 8:19:10 AM (No. 2014860)
The EV market has already reached maturity, and will shrink to near insignificance in the next ten years. These impractical battery electric vehicles will never take the place of gasoline or diesel. There isn't enough electricity in the whole grid to electrify travel and shipping. That's not going to happen unless the totalitarian Left takes complete control of our affairs, and behaves as, say, Gov. Newscum is behaving in California. I would even go so far as to say that if the brilliant Elon Musk doesn't start building conventional ICE cars and trucks, the whole undesirable e-car experience will end. The purpose of electrifying travel was, and is, to immobilize Americans. That's the best reason to get rid of it all. No more 8-year-olds in Congo mining lithium. (Do you know that the 1,000 pound battery in a typical e-car requires over a half million pounds of earth to be moved. Just get rid of all these political cars. Ruin Al Gore's day.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
mc squared 10/10/2025 9:49:08 AM (No. 2014905)
Subsidies only raised the price of the vehicle.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
jeffkinnh 10/10/2025 9:57:37 AM (No. 2014908)
As the support for radical environmentalism falls away, real scientists are going to be publishing real science that shows that most any warming that is occurring is NOT due to CO2 and CO2 will have even less of an effect going forward. Further, the real causes are likely extraterrestrial and beyond our ability to control. All the name calling and angst that the Left has thrown at us will prove to have been based on bad science and worse policy.
Maybe then we can turn environmentalism back to its roots and something most people agree with; clean water, clean air, clean soil. We did an amazing cleanup job on these things but there is probably some more we can do.
EVs may have a place. Those whose lifestyles match EV use can still buy them if they want to pay for them, themselves. The rest of us can get what works for us.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bpl40 10/10/2025 9:59:41 AM (No. 2014912)
"A great program for climate conscious Californians" is precisely the reason it should be scrapped.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 10/10/2025 10:03:04 AM (No. 2014916)
I use my ev frequently. We have a house in a small lake community. We drive around the lake at 5:00 pm amd have a cocktail with friends, watch the sunset while I smoke a cigar. My ev is more commonly called a golf cart and it works great for that. At the present, I see no advantage to ev vehicles other than small applications. My dock has a solar powered fish feeder and I have solar powered outdoor lights on my house and driveway.
Maybe 25-50 years from now, regular electric powered road vehicles will become practical and affordable. Electric powered bicycles look interesting and technology is moving at a rapid pace. Maybe a small, lightweight battery that gives your SUV a 500 mile range and doesn't use exotic minerals (currently mined by ICE machines and semi slave labor). Until then, evs will be a niche market for the save-the-planet types or short local trips).
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hurricanegirl 10/10/2025 10:22:59 AM (No. 2014931)
EVs never made sense in my part of the U.S. You have to drive lots of miles to get anywhere, there's no recharging stations nearby, and you're lucky if you don't have to dodge critters along the way. Hitting something as small as a raccoon or an armadillo can total an EV tin can.
Yup, it's time for the glorified golf carts to GO AWAY!
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
sunset 10/10/2025 10:41:57 AM (No. 2014936)
And there was no limit to the number of times a car title could be transferred between the same people or family members. Tax credit schemes are basically transferring the cost of those payouts to people who actually pay taxes.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DVC 10/10/2025 11:00:46 AM (No. 2014946)
I'm surprised that they can sell any of these things. But, a certain portion of people are easily propagandized and there are definitely folks who buy into the 'save the world from fossil fuels' fairy tale.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Mcscow sailor 10/10/2025 11:08:12 AM (No. 2014956)
My use case for an Ev? 1) Recharging is simpler, easier, and less expensive than an IC vehicle for in town (my use case..a simple wall plug overnight). Agreed, for long distance travel, there will be manageable complications. 2). The advanced level 2-3 driving assistance is safer than current driver assistance on most IC cars. 3). Interior volume (when we travel, there is need for space…) is typically larger than for comparatively priced IC vehicles. 4). I enjoy entering a highway looking ahead for a space, rather than looking behind. 5. Regular maintenance is miniscule, compared to an IC.
Where will we be in 10 years? Will bev’s thrive? Who knows….let batteries, gasoline, methane, ammonia, hydrogen, mass transit, bicycles, horses, and dilutherium crystals compete in an unsubsidized market…
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
crashnburn 10/10/2025 11:45:18 AM (No. 2014983)
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Long distance travel. I can fill my hybrid SUV in about 15 minutes, including a restroom visit. From what I've heard, a full EV fill up can take up to four hours. That doesn't seem to be very manageable to me.
FTA: " Carbon dioxide is a trace gas, and human emissions of it “make absolutely no difference one way or another.” To claim it’s a threat is “dangerous nonsense” and even if its atmospheric concentrations were to somehow double or triple, there would be virtually no impact."
Global Warming was first proposed by the now late Soviet Union in an effort to hamstring the West's industrial might, as the USSR was unable to compete on a level playing field. Now the lunatic left (and I repeat myself) has seized upon EV's as a "cure" for global warning because they are "green". Problem is they are all watermelons, green on the outside, and red on the inside.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
earlybird 10/10/2025 11:57:21 AM (No. 2014989)
This is nfot true. He does not speak for all Californians:
“It’s a lose-lose and we urge the federal government to retain this program,” he added.
Why should the government keep the program? Why is it a “lose-lose” outcome? Because, said Gordon, it “is a great program for climate-conscious Californians.” The state issued more than 1 million Clean Air Vehicle decals “since this program was approved,” he said, “which has helped to foster a change in how we drive,” adding that “Californians are committed to lowering their carbon footprint and these decals helped drivers be good stewards of our highways and environment.”
What rubbish.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Lucky5 10/10/2025 11:59:11 AM (No. 2014990)
Hybrids seem like a good solution. Depending where you live and how you drive. I know people who own those and bought their own home chargers and are happy with the security of having the gas powered option there to kick in if needed.
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franq 10/10/2025 2:22:35 PM (No. 2015043)
If you want a complicated, expensive, non-user- serviceable compromise, buy a hybrid! The worst of both worlds!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
crashnburn 10/10/2025 2:39:23 PM (No. 2015046)
I'm on my fourth hybrid. I've never had a problem with the hybrid system and the brakes on my Lexus Rx450h should be good for 100K miles, according to the Lexus Service manager. These were/are all non-plugin systems; they capture energy from braking and otherwise decelerating.
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