White House Warns That Furloughed Federal
Bureaucrats Are Not Entitled to Back Pay

Just fire all 750,000?!!! “nonessential” federal employees and then backfill any of the actually useful roles with some workers from the “essential” set.

My (PTD-voting) son-in-law is still going to work. He is a civilian employee for the military.

In the real world, no work equals no pay. Why should Federal employees be paid for days they were technically laid off? They can collect unemployment like the rest of common people. Federal employees are not special and shouldn't expect a paid vacation due to Congressional incompetence.

A quick calculation shows that the average unessential govworker has a compensation base of $133,000 per year. Perhaps we should start over

it's about time. During every Government shutdown, I worked. What really got to me, those off got paid the same as I did.

Remember hundreds of thousands of GIs and their families live paycheck to paycheck at subsistence levels. They are putting their loved ones/ providers in harm's way for us. The left wing parasites should be laid off permanently. But making soldiers and their families suffer is ingratitude at it's worst.

Either work to get paid or stay home and not get paid. The government needs to be better stewards of our tax dollars.

They will have to use up their unused vacation time. which is good for the budget.

I promise you, #6, not a single GI is home sleeping in. 🤣

The issue of government shutdowns could easily be resolved if congressmen and senators stopped receiving their pay during the shutdown. Then, make sure they don't receive any back pay for the duration of the closure. That would probably make them think twice about shutting down the government. In, addition they should make sure the military gets paid during any shutdown.

How did bureaucracies, which are defined, according to the Bureaucratic Management Theory of political economist and sociologist, Max Weber, who described his ideal type of bureaucracy his book, Economy and Society in 1921, become such a bad, hated label for government workers? The people at the top of the federal bureaucracy's pyramid-shaped structure, like the president and leaders of our Legislature, voted into office by the people and supported by many interconnected special interests. Bureaucracy, as defined by Weber, were thought to be the most efficient way to organize large organizations as a result of the inevitable rationalization and impersonalization of society. Broken down, a bureaucracy is hierarchical, managed by rules, organized by functional specialty, purposely impersonal, with employment based on technical qualification. Our president is the chief bureaucrat and over our nation's history, the rule-based, impersonal management in theory inevitably led to nepotism, graft, and corruption, made worse by political party ideologies and self-serving leadership. Non-essential bureaucrats didn't hire themselves for jobs that they made up out of thin air. To hate on government employees is like seeking to punish drug mules, from the bottom of a cartel's pyramid, while giving a pass to the cartel leaders safely protected in their luxury compounds in friendly nations, whose government leaders avert their eyes to remain on the take. Those who inhabit the upper reaches of the pyramid (e.g., cabinet members, agency heads and their direct reports) who deem certain activities "non-essential" often substitute their own prejudices and lack of knowledge in exercising their bias. Mostly, such designation is nearly always in flux. For example, a financial analyst who may seem non-essential on a given Monday, may be very essential when the administration must go before Congressional appropriators to justify budget dollars on Thursday. My overarching point is that it is our elected leadership that perpetuates the bureaucratic form of organization within our government and their lack of direction and oversight causes the problems and inefficiencies often associated with bureaucracies. Within most federal departments and agencies, there are hoards of workers hired and maintained due to legal requirements of public law or rules set down from a given president. Such law or rule may be well intended but the accumulation of rules, laws, and the employees hired to carry them out can appear to be a waste, when looked at from 30,000 ft. It borders on dereliction of duty for a president to only focus on excess employees during the lead up to or in the midst of a government shutdown. Max Weber has been dead for over a century and our brilliant minds in the White House and Congress still can't find a better way to organize the administration of government? Most administrations make more rules and most Congresses write more laws; however, it is rare that old rules and laws, that no longer serve the purpose for which they were promulgated, so effect of leadership dropping the ball, while blaming your average line workers, gives us the inefficiencies and misuse of authority that is the norm in government. One thing I know for certain is that business administration and public administration are as similar as is a WWII B17 bomber to a current B2 bomber.

Maybe they'll get a sweet eight-month severance like the others. I'd leave my job today if I could get that and not have to show up for work in that eight months. Military staff should be excluded in every shutdown. Absolutely!