Time to Celebrate the End of the Electric
Car Tax Breaks

Pay for your own crazy ideas, don't expect me to fund them.

If a person willing to buy a $70,000 dollar luxury Tesla golf cart let's $7500 dollars stop them they didn't really want the thing to begin with.

You can say goodbye to that big new battery factory they just built in central Kentucky. Plant #2 was cancelled a year ago. Plant #1 was ready to get started when the union swooped in and forced a vote. The DEMOCRAT Governor of Kentucky who pushed the plant, was front and center to support the union. I give it just a few months.

I am a battery car owner. No, I did not need a 75 kw line at home to charge my car. In fact, around town (most of my miles) my car charges on a 1 kw line, readily available from a standard wall socket, at night when most of the world is sleeping. It sips power at about 2 cents per mile, replacing an IC vehicle with a fuel cost of 20 cents per mil. The possibility of a battery fire was worrisome…I put off buying and Ev until the risk issue sorted out. In w024, the risk of a fire was 10 times higher for en IC care tan for an EV., and gas fires are go boom while electric fires sizzle. All that said, I am pleased that the fed EV bribe is gone. Our gov has no biusiness incentivizing a technology.

Battery power is good for small tools, maybe a golf cart at best. Trying to foist EVs on the masses was, and still is, just dumb. They can take their windmills and solar panels and stick 'em where the sun don't shine too, which is about all this article is lacking. We need more coal fired plants if the greenie-weenies are going to insist we have no nuclear power plants, and this would still be true even without thousands and thousands more EVs. If only those who pushed all these bad policies the last several decades were affected by the absolute stupidity of them then everything would be alright. However that's not how it works. Just like any other far left wing extremist policy (i.e.,...mainstream democrat policy), they just want to tell everyone what to do and when to do it. Idk if there's ever been a larger collection of obtuse, self loathers in the history of the world.

Re the "charge with the wall outlet"...... I started off pretty skeptical. So, I twiddled some numbers. I don't know what EV...so I picked a Kia that I could get some info on. A normal wall outlet is 15 amp rated. For more that three hour use, they are limited by code to 12 amps. This means that charging an EV via one of these for an hr will give you around 1.3 kw in the battery, using 1.44kw-hours of electricity. For the moderate priced Kia that I looked it it took 18 kw to go 100km (62 miles). So 1.3 kw will give you 1.3/18 = 0.072 of 62 miles, or about 4.5 miles. So, charge for 8 hrs in a standard wall socket and you'll get about 36 miles. As to cost....in Kansas we pay 15 cents per kilowatt-hour, many/most places pay more. Ours has jumped up a lot due to the damned windmills. A 12 amp charge at 120 volts is 1.440 kw so for one hour charge you'll pay 1.44 kw-hr x 0.15 = 21.6 cents, and that will move a Kia about 4.5 miles, at a cost for electricity of 4.8 cents per mile. So....for short around town, it looks like overnight charge with an ordinary outlet can be useful. But the cost won't be 2 cents per mile in Kansas. In New Jersey, they pay 26 cents per kw-hr (or kwh), to that would be 1.44 x 0.26 = 37.44 cents to go 4.5 miles, or 8.32 cents per mile for electricity. Some commenter said that they paid 62 cents per kwh (!!), and there the cost would be just a touch under 20 cents per mile. Of course, said Kia costs about $50-60,000 for what is essentially a commuter car, if used this way. Range is claimed to be 400km, which is 245 miles. I have never heard of a real world EV test making the 'rated range', ever.

Poster 56. My in town use averages 35 miles per day. I would not quibble with your estimate of 8 hiurs of charge per day..its easily doable even with a more intense use. Mine is set up to take about 15 seconds to hook or unhook in 15 seconds, U get 225 wh per mile, do the math. And shen uou look at your lower bill, be durevto remive rhe fixed costs…its the variable costs, and I stand by 9cents here

Re #7, I wasn't really disputing your numbers, other than the 2 cents per mile, with so many places having crazy high electric rates these days. I was, as much as anything, educating myself about whether a wall socket charge would do anything much useful. With 100 kw superchargers all the rage, I was curious if a regular wall ssocket was a viable option. Clearly it is, and I think I showed that. OTOH, I'm still unsure about how it's possible to be at 2 cents per mile. My engineering mind has to "work out the numbers" on these things to learn and understand. Now I understand that an ordinary wall socket can be viable for a commuter car. I didn't know that before, so you educated me.

No 8. Good talking with you. I have rigged my portable chsrger for very simple use, so it is basically plugged in when I am Home. Superchargers run 40 cents (some higher) during the day and say 20 cents at wee hours. The only road time I have was about 5 miles per kwh (65 speed limit) so that runs 4 to 8 cents per mile. Competitive with some well regarded hybrids. My argument was with the author of the article. saying in part that ev users would have to instsll a 75 kw circuit to recharge. Clearly wrong. As to my 9 cents…my error. It is 16 c per kWh variable costs, so my cost charge per mile is 3.7 c/mile in town (the ev replaced an IC at 18cpm). Inarguably, the ev is overall more expensive than the IC, but I did not buy it to save the planet, nor to save money.

#9, then why? The author does a great job of connecting the dots by following the money. I knew CA production was insufficient, didn’t realize the transmission is also marginal. Nor did I realize the production incentive that FJB had to get the US out of Afghanistan. He’s even more corrupt than I thought possible. And where is he now? Essentially brain dead and ice cream is the highlight of his day.