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A More Effective Safety Net, Not A Basic
Income, Will Help Lift People Out of Poverty

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Posted By: FlyRight, 12/27/2024 5:42:37 AM

2024 was a good year for proponents of a universal basic income (UBI). Following the 2019 experiment in Stockton, UBI pilot programs are underway across cities in California including Fresno and Sacramento. This is unfortunate. Advocates such as former Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs argue that “we need a social safety net that goes beyond conditional benefits tied to employment, works for everyone and begins to address the call for racial and economic justice through a guaranteed income”. A UBI allegedly fills this gap by providing income security, encouraging work, and improving low-income families’ quality of life.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: mifla 12/27/2024 7:41:06 AM (No. 1861756)
Getting rid of the victim mentality would also be a step in the right direction. Also, don't drop out of school, and don't have kids you cannot afford.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: navybrat 12/27/2024 7:42:47 AM (No. 1861758)
Teaching a marketable skill and encouraging work will lift people out of poverty.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 12/27/2024 7:54:58 AM (No. 1861764)
UBI is just communism. Don't fall for it, consider the advocates.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Roscoelewis 12/27/2024 8:12:23 AM (No. 1861777)
Ask any teacher - 30% of a population is just stupid. If it weren't for ridiculous minimum wage laws, maybe these people could make a living doing doing the more simple jobs.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Krause 12/27/2024 8:15:38 AM (No. 1861778)
Anything to avoid the issue of poor parenting.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Muguy 12/27/2024 8:47:20 AM (No. 1861796)
As the late GREAT Rush Limbaugh pointed out 30 years ago, "whatever it is that you you subsidize with tax dollars, the MORE of it you will get", not the other way around. Instead of promoting people because of lack of ability or skin tone, we must change this or we will be sucked into a whirlpool of debt... If memory serves me, Pennsylvania Governor Tom Ridge had a program to pay for child care while the parent LEARNED or was trained to be able to find work or face getting the welfare from the state cut off. No skills, no excuse. Young child at home keeping the parent from learning a new skill, no excuse. People were leaving his state to go to other states if they did not do this rather than to remain in indentured servitude depending on welfare instead of bettering themselves and benefiting their own families. If that information was in error, please correct. Bravo #1 and #2
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Reply 7 - Posted by: sw penn 12/27/2024 8:59:40 AM (No. 1861801)
They don't want to get people out of poverty. "Solving Poverty" is a multi billion dollar industry. Those people are not going to find new jobs in shutdown, "dirty", extractive industries. Further - "Saving The Planet" requires using the "twin millstones" of taxation and inflation to grind the people into such a state of hopelessness that they voluntarily do not reproduce. Malthusians
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Reply 8 - Posted by: kdog 12/27/2024 9:11:26 AM (No. 1861811)
I suspect a good portion of these people comfortably living in "poverty" have no desire to do what is necessary to actually provide for themselves. Nothing we offer to do will be enough if the spigot is still on at the end of the day.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: padiva 12/27/2024 9:27:45 AM (No. 1861823)
Most of the money in the poverty industry goes to the salaries of the overseers and overhead. Keeping people in poverty programs keeps the overseers employed. The overseers become little gods over the povertees.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 12/27/2024 9:44:24 AM (No. 1861840)
What will lift people out of poverty is more demand for labor and no welfare. Tariffs, deport all illegal, restrict legal immigration, and no welfare or Medicaid.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: MickTurn 12/27/2024 10:28:44 AM (No. 1861871)
A JOB picking up trash to get the $$ would be much BETTER!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: JHHolliday 12/27/2024 10:31:01 AM (No. 1861876)
#9 is correct. The poverty pimps don't want to solve the problem since they would lose their overpaid jobs. California is already 48 billion in debt, so I guess they will eventually plead for a bailout from the rest of us taxpayers.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: WWIIDaughter 12/27/2024 10:34:24 AM (No. 1861882)
"Life at the Bottom" by Theodore Dalrymple describes what he saw as a physician working among the almost entirely native white English people in the slums of London @ 30 years ago. The "safety net" had already been at work for a generation or two. The sense of personal responsibility and family ties that were old Britain had been destroyed. A few minutes on the Daily Mail UK shows what's going on among the dependent class. You cannot "save" people who don't want to try to save themselves.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 12/27/2024 12:51:04 PM (No. 1861963)
How about cancelling ALL welfare and food stamps?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: chagrined 12/27/2024 12:51:31 PM (No. 1861964)
FTA: "Advocates such as former Stockton Mayor Michael Tubbs argue that “we need a social safety net that goes beyond conditional benefits tied to employment, works for everyone and begins to address the call for racial and economic justice through a guaranteed income”. No, they do not want to solve any poverty problems. Poverty programs is where corrupt politicians and bureaucrats keep their slush money.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: kono 12/27/2024 12:54:41 PM (No. 1861967)
Any system created will wind up being gamed by the grifting class.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: JimBob 12/27/2024 11:14:02 PM (No. 1862208)
From what I can see, there is a percentage of the population that, given enough 'stuff' to get along day to day, are content to just 'get along day by day' and have no desire, no incentive to actually WORK to get themselves into a better situation. There is another percentage of the population that, as other L-Dotters have pointed out, desire to rule over a larger and larger 'empire' of wealth-distributing bureaucracy, and so are always encouraging people to 'get on the assistance' program. I know a lady whose husband died in an accident. She went on assistance for a while until she could get a decent job, then went to the assistance office and asked to be removed from the program, as she was now self-sufficient. The people in that office did their best to convince her to quit her job and stay on assistance..... because THEY made more money the more people their office 'assisted'.
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