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True costs of EVs revealed by bombshell
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Posted By: Dreadnought, 10/26/2023 10:10:34 AM

The electric vehicle industry is barely making it with all the cushy subsidies, grants, and backroom deals… imagine if these car companies were actually forced to manufacture a sellable and profitable product, and produce their own wealth instead of just stealing ours? Just two days back, a regular AT contributor noted that the Big Three automakers were diminishing E.V. output because, according to The Wall Street Journal, coupled with a “need” to make rechargeable cars more profitable, there is a “slowing demand” for consumers. Yesterday, Fox News reported on a “sweeping first-of-its-kind” Texas Public Policy Foundation analysis put together by “energy experts” Jason Isaac and Brent Bennett, which revealed

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Venturer 10/26/2023 10:14:55 AM (No. 1586246)
The word is getting out from those that own them that they are not worth the effort to keep them on the road. One of the most stupid things ever done in this country was to interrupt our oil production, our Energy Independence to take off on this pipe dream of the Environmental Whacko's.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 10/26/2023 10:16:20 AM (No. 1586249)
I would be surprised if I were surprised,
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Reply 3 - Posted by: NorthernDog 10/26/2023 10:26:03 AM (No. 1586259)
Once the battery dies EVs are nothing more than an expensive boat anchor. But autos with ICE can still be worth a few thousand dollars after 20 years. A well-maintained ICE auto can often last 25-30 years, while the EV will be long gone.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: DVC 10/26/2023 10:31:44 AM (No. 1586261)
One of the many excellent points in Dr. Thomas Sowell's excellent book, Basic Economics is that communist/socialist countries don't just somehow have a massive shortage of good ideas for innovations, compared to free market economies. The reason that communist/socialist economies are so hideously inefficient is that when a bad idea (like EVs) is tried in a free market, relatively quickly the company pushing the bad idea runs out of money and the bad idea ends. In communist/socialist governments the government can keep pumping government (taxpayer) money into the bad idea for decades after the free market country would have stopped and moved on to a product that worked. FTA: "This is exactly what a free market is supposed to correct. Ideas or products that do not bring enough of a benefit, to enough of a population, for a cheap enough cost... are meant to die and will. But, thanks to government, and particularly a socialist Democrat government, stupidity and failure are virtues, and it pays to be a leech. " Yes, exactly. EVs are an absolute loser, economically and functionally. They ONLY reason that they are still in business is massive government subsidies and the ecocrazies' endless harranguing those who are easily harrangued. The sooner EVs go away to museums, permanently, like their EV forebears, the better it will be for all of us.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Digiconver 10/26/2023 10:46:02 AM (No. 1586275)
Bottom line: the physics doesn't work. A battery is just an energy storage container - a very expensive gas tank.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Jethro bo 10/26/2023 10:46:45 AM (No. 1586277)
Another wonderful product brought to us by the Democrat goobernment's Central Planning Agency. The New Deal, along with being the most 'successful' fascist program in history, also Goobernized Central Planning. We had enough free enterprise to avoid the collapse of our economy until the last generation. With Obamb and Diaper Joe, FDR's dream of a truly fascist nation under one party rule has finally been achieved.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 10/26/2023 10:54:48 AM (No. 1586284)
Re #5, yes, exactly. And the 'gas tank' is extremely expensive and extremely heavy --- and only holds three or four gallons. Imagine your gas car had a $35,000 gas tank and it weighed 5,000 lbs and could only hold four gallons of gas. How much would that do to make your gas car a piece of junk. So, instead of car costing $25,000 to $30,000, it would cost $60 to 65,000. And instead of weighing 3,000 lbs it would weigh 8,000 lbs and instead of having a range of 500+ miles, it would have a range of 120 miles or so. Yes, these are actually the truth about EVs. A Tesla can weigh 8,000 lbs and cost $80,000 and have a range CLAIM of 200 miles, but real world range more like 120 miles. So, with the lead lined, gold plated gas tank "upgrade" you could convert your gas car to work like an EV. Oh, yeah. And the filler neck diameter of this new gas tank is 1/8", so you fill it with an eyedropper. It takes hours.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Cindiana 10/26/2023 10:59:09 AM (No. 1586287)
Thank you for that info, #4. It's such a solid argument for confronting the blind lunacy of leftist locksteppers on the subject of electric cars and other pet "solutions" they continue to force on us. The free market is the ultimate judge. I love this.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: john56 10/26/2023 11:02:48 AM (No. 1586291)
For some reason, EV car sellers and proponents are getting away with the canard that fueling (recharging) the EV is "free." Well, not really. If you charge at home, you pay the electric bill (and the additional cost of a high-voltage charger). Most, if not all, public charging locations require payment. When you compare MPG cost of gas vs MPC (miles per charge) cost of electric charging, the price can be very much the same depending where you charge. And yes, a well-maintained ICE car can last a long, long time. I finally bought my "dream car," which ended up being a 2004 BMW convertible. Car has only 44,000 miles (well, 45,000 since I bought it) and runs like the day it came off the showroom floor. I think the previous owner was a little old lady who only drove it to church on Sundays and didn't go to church every Sunday. I expect its life expectancy will probably exceed mine.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: paral04 10/26/2023 11:16:50 AM (No. 1586303)
They haven't included the costs for putting out the fires when these cars get wet and the towing costs when they are stuck in traffic during very cold weather which happened last year on I-95 south of the Beltway in Virginia
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Reply 11 - Posted by: dbdiva 10/26/2023 11:17:33 AM (No. 1586304)
I'm still driving my 15yo Corolla which is running as well today as the day I bought it. I had it inspected this month (I'm in PA) and all it needed were spark plugs and an oil change. I have no plans to purchase a new car and I would never purchase an EV. If/when we are forced to have them, I'll give up driving.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Digiconver 10/26/2023 12:00:16 PM (No. 1586326)
Excellent #7! (Wish I said it)
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Reply 13 - Posted by: LC Chihuahua 10/26/2023 12:44:37 PM (No. 1586358)
I wouldn't buy an EV at this point. The technology is still experimental and much too expensive. Just like any first or second generation vehicle, it has expense, production, and defect issues. On top of that add in all the new technology issues involving EVs. Maybe the industry will fix all the issues. It will have to if it wants to survive. I seriously doubt we will ever see a first or second generation EV last 20 years. I follow the truck industry a little and learned there is a company coming out with a trailer with an electrified axle that will lend its power to the truck so it uses less diesel. Should be interesting to see how it turns out. The entire technology needs to become cheaper and longer lasting to survive. If it cannot do that, it's over for EVs.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: rikkitikki 10/26/2023 1:44:10 PM (No. 1586390)
And the whole EV charade exists to mitigate the myth of AGW. Like several before us, it would seem that our civilization, too, will fail from within...
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Zeek Wolfe 10/26/2023 2:06:11 PM (No. 1586403)
I have a well-maintained 2010 PT Cruiser with 150k miles. It is reliable, cheap to operate, is comfortable at 70 mph up to Las Vegas, and someone offered to buy it from me at in a supermarket parking lot. It is an 'orphan' but a desirable one. Electric cars 13 years old will be rusting and unwanted. The big car companies are headed by fools. Electric cars are okay for grocery shopping, but until the 5 minute full charge becomes a reality people will not buy them.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 10/26/2023 3:12:05 PM (No. 1586443)
Mobility is anarchy. We can't have that.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Starboard_side 10/26/2023 5:10:24 PM (No. 1586498)
The article did not even consider the massive costs to obtain the materials for the EV batteries either. How much, if any, is still recyclable? If EV vehicles are much heavier, are they also destroying the roads faster? The worst case scenario, EV with autonomous driving, which will require you to essentially have permission from the government to operate when/where you want since it would require you to pay them for the privilege each time. After all, they'll control all the means for you to be mobile (electricity and access to the roads).
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Reply 18 - Posted by: SALady 10/26/2023 10:05:49 PM (No. 1586567)
Thank God I am 65, and so I will only need a car for another 10 - 15 years. There are still lots of gas cars being sold, and one more will probably get me through the time I stop driving. EV's are a "solution" to a "problem" that simply doesn't exist! I have absolutely no interest in having a glorified golf cart!!!
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