Three Huge Reasons Why Electric Vehicles
Will Never Dominate American Roads
PJ Media,
by
Mark Tapscott
Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac,
2/24/2023 8:32:00 AM
Here’s the most important fact about plug-in electric vehicles (EV), courtesy of the liberal content-creators at Wikipedia in the opening sentence of their post on “Government Incentives for Plug-in Electric Vehicles:”
Such incentives “have been established around the world to support policy-driven adoption of plug-in electric vehicles. These incentives mainly take the form of purchase rebates, tax exemptions and tax credits, and additional perks that range from access to bus lanes to waivers on fees (charging, parking, tolls, etc.).” [Emphasis added]
The campaign by the Western elite in the U.S. and Europe to force everybody else to stop driving
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Mizz Fixxit 2/24/2023 8:50:18 AM (No. 1410649)
This outstanding article explains that conversion to EV policies are driven by elites, who have contempt for the middle class. Elites seek to confiscate middle class money, houses, cars and guns. They don’t want you to have choices. Elites are modern day slave owners. Their mission is to reduced you to a subject.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
RayLRiv 2/24/2023 8:55:22 AM (No. 1410653)
Lack of endurance, potential spontaneous combustible hazard and inadequate energy output are my three big ones
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Californian 2/24/2023 8:56:36 AM (No. 1410654)
Obviously no mandates will force EV ownership. This heavy handed top down policy will fail just like the Soviets and their endless 5 year plans which always resulted in disaster for their people.
This is different from, "Do EVs have a role to play in the market and provide value?"
For a number of people, yes.
For my personal usage my gas guzzling 2 seater sports car is super fun for weekend drives. I also enjoy picking up my kid from school and seeing the looks she gets from the other kids when she gets in. :-)
But my EV is more practical for daily use, requires near zero maintenance and I charge for free at home off solar. I have taken it on long trips and charging for 30 minutes during a lunch stop isn't the end of the world but yes it is more hassle than a 5 minute gas n go. For everything local the EV is the best car I've ever had.
However, the government did not force me to buy it. I chose it for my needs. That's the key these commies don't understand. You can't force a lifestyle choice on a large population without consequences.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Mizz Fixxit 2/24/2023 9:06:30 AM (No. 1410661)
“Reduce” you to a subject. This is all about elitism. All about control. Remember what obama said, “the price of electricity must necessarily skyrocket.”
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 2/24/2023 9:16:57 AM (No. 1410676)
The main goal of this administration's transportation department is to convince people to stay home. The goal of transportation is no transportation. The exact opposite of what they are supposed to be there for.
That's our bass ackwards government for you.
Meanwhile they ignore the real problem: Our transportation infrastructure is becoming more and more clogged. Our government ignores real problems. Took a road trip from Florida to New York last summer. Got on I-95 at one point. From Jacksonville all the way thru Georgia, it was a 20 MPH traffic jam. It was horribly congested. Every time you hit an on/off ramp, it became stop and go.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 2/24/2023 9:17:42 AM (No. 1410678)
For many people there is simply no place to plug-in the car on a daily basis. And if there were, they'll soon be 'shocked' by their monthly electric bill.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
snakeoil 2/24/2023 9:20:46 AM (No. 1410683)
Don't have a crystal ball and can't predict the future. First time I saw a cell phone I told myself I'd never have one. Now I can't imagine life without my cell phone. But, before EVs become desirable lots of work needs to be done. They have to be more affordable and reliable. But, the biggest problem is where is all that electricity going to come from? Wind and solar are a joke. That leaves hydro, nuclear and fossil fuels. Hydro isn't the answer because there aren't enough rivers. Nuclear is probably out because of fear of nuclear waste. So, that leaves fossil fuels. What's the point of burning fossil fuels to generate electricity to eliminate cars using fossil fuels?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
bpl40 2/24/2023 9:23:35 AM (No. 1410686)
If every vehicle in Kalifornia is an EV, the power grid will need 28 times (these are all estimates) today’s capacity. Where the h*** is that going to come from? How and where are the Lithium batteries going to be disposed off? No answers. Have been prided. There are none. The fact is they don’t INTEND to replace the displaced gasoline vehicles. Most of the citizenry is expected to give up personal mobility and subject themselves to public transportation. They have openly begun to say so. Wake up in time!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 2/24/2023 9:27:47 AM (No. 1410689)
A person is going to need several battery vehicles so you can charge the spares with your solar panels while you use the others.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
red1066 2/24/2023 9:31:35 AM (No. 1410692)
EV vehicles are ok in a city where the distance between destinations is quite small and access to charging stations have already been installed, but if using the vehicle to go on longer trips is in the cards, only gas-powered cars can be used. A longer trip needs to be planned out to find those charging stations. I know someone who moved from Las Vegas to Texas. He drove his Tesla. He made out ok, but he had to go out of his way to find a charging station at times, and the distance he ended up driving was longer and took more time than if he had had a gas-powered vehicle.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 2/24/2023 9:33:58 AM (No. 1410697)
To fulfill the EV edict, environments will have to be destroyed. The Green New Deal is the New Environment Destruction. The irony is not lost. Hey Greta, do you approve of this action? Greta! Greta!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Hazymac 2/24/2023 9:35:38 AM (No. 1410701)
When the unwise federal subsidies ($7,500) for e-cars disappear, as they must, sales will plummet. The thousand (or more) pound lithium ion batteries have a lifespan, and must be replaced at a very high cost, perhaps well above $10,000, if they can be replaced at all. Some batteries are obsolete, not produced anymore, the cars they came in worthless. The author mentions the land despoiling lithium mining, which will have to be trebled if e-cars are to replace gasoline and diesel. I would object to a new neighbor plugging in one of those things in the same carport I use. The ocean is right there, and e-cars that got flooded in southwest Florida last September caught fire and burned and burned and burned. They burned a few houses down, too. Firefighters hate to deal with electric car fires, because the 800 gallons they carry in the firetruck aren't nearly enough. A fire hydrant is required.
If reality ever sinks in, the e-car fad will peter out as people realize that electric cannot replace gasoline. Elon Musk, one of the most brilliant businessmen of out time, will eventually have to shift most of his production to gas and diesel, because electric isn't practical, and is bad for the environment besides. Going electric was a political decision that all who jumped onboard will rue the day they did it. It very well might kill both Ford and GM. Politics ruins everything.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
wilarrbie 2/24/2023 9:47:48 AM (No. 1410720)
As stated by many here, it's not that EVs are bad or a bad idea. It's the all-or-nothing approach the Left loves to force-feed their agendas to us. The artificial 'deadlines' of no air pollution, or all ev cars by year X, all the 5 - 10 year plans when they have not prepared the way or won the hearts and minds of those they wish to change. Sorry guys - you have a lot of parades I just don't care to attend.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
bad-hair 2/24/2023 10:10:46 AM (No. 1410738)
Don't make a fuss just get on the bus.
Frank Zappa
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
FLCracker 2/24/2023 10:31:38 AM (No. 1410754)
I'm curious about what the trickle-down effect of the US/Western Europe support of EVs is going to do to the Rest of the World.
I can't see electric charging stations showing up in great swaths of Central and Southeast Asia, interior of South America and Africa, or across Australia's Outback. Heck, I'm pretty sure that even Puerto Rico doesn't have the power grid to support EVs.
Not only do I not think these areas could economically support a power grid for EVs, what would the environmentalists think of lines of charging stations crossing these "untouched" wildernesses they go on about? Maybe they can build vast lines of wind turbines across the continents. Nothing to complain about there. (sarcasm)
Do we have enough rare earths to handle all that? Maybe China does.
I'd like to see some speculation on a planet with the First World Nations are all-electric, dependent on China, and Everybody Else is burning South America's and the Saudi's oil.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Mcscow sailor 2/24/2023 10:39:38 AM (No. 1410760)
The high growth market will be for tow behind gas powered generators for long trips
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
coldborezero 2/24/2023 11:54:03 AM (No. 1410861)
Re#7: I don’t have to imagine life without my cellphone, as I have lived most of my life without one. Of course, I have one now and I find it quite convenient. Indispensable; no. The same can be said for most modern conveniences. Be careful not to exchange your freedom for convenience. It’s a bad deal.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 2/24/2023 12:10:29 PM (No. 1410875)
There's something about gassing up a big vehicle that can drive 500 miles non-stop before another 5-minute stop to tank it up again then get to your destination to rest up. Leave the golf carts on the golf course to put little white balls around not on America's interstates.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 2/24/2023 1:57:17 PM (No. 1410953)
I'll buy my useless ecar when Lurch and the beautiful people start flying around in their useless solar-powered business jets.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
SALady 2/24/2023 2:01:39 PM (No. 1410955)
Sadly, while I wish this were true, it's not. 30 years from now, the only gas vehicles around will be in museums.
Why, you ask, since EV's are horrible and will destroy the American ideal of freedom? Simple, because the government will soon start doing everything it can to increase the cost of gas and diesel. Very soon, we will catch up to Canada and be paying $10 a gallon for gas. Once EV's are mandated by the government, gas will go up to $40 - $50 a gallon and be available in very few locations. Along with drastic increases in gas prices, expect new laws requiring impossible to maintain rules about gas vehicles that will cost astronomically high prices that very few of the peasants will be able to afford.
So basically, in their ever more communist mindset, our own government will do whatever it takes to further control the masses of peasants, by forcing us in to EV's that are far more easy to control!!!
You have been warned!!!
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Historybuff 2/24/2023 6:28:23 PM (No. 1411105)
It is much like Pol Pot in Cambodia. He ordered water to flow uphill.
That didn't work out either.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
Californian 2/24/2023 10:09:42 PM (No. 1411225)
9, sorry but no. Let's be honest. There are problems with EV's but it doesn't take days to charge one at home off a 50 AMP circuit. No one will need multiple EV to drive while the others charge.
Saying bluntly incorrect things makes the real things we say dismissible as well.
Stick to facts. It makes for a stronger message.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
bobmadison 2/25/2023 8:01:48 AM (No. 1411392)
The biggest scam, boondoggle, and hornswaggle in the history of the U.S.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Red Jeep 2/25/2023 8:13:52 AM (No. 1411398)
Electric cars, electric stoves, electric heat --they are all about controlling You with flip of a switch.
Wrongthink? No electricity for you.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
franq 2/25/2023 8:17:02 AM (No. 1411400)
Electric OR gas, new vehicles are beyond the means of many. I am hanging on to my cars until no longer feasible.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 2/25/2023 9:21:19 AM (No. 1411439)
I've said it before, and will say it again: I would not have one if you GAVE it to me. Even after the White House air fleet goes all electric. Even if Southwest Air goes electric. When pigs fly on their own. Furthermore, if EV's ever work, it'll be 20 or 30 more years on the drawing board. The base minerals are not available in this hemisphere.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
kennedylaw 2/25/2023 9:44:57 AM (No. 1411450)
The objective has never been to force most people to drive EVs. The ultimate objective is to force most people to live in densely populated Democrat controlled cities and ride mass transit.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 2/25/2023 9:56:18 AM (No. 1411460)
Until EV's are reduced to running on effectively "AA" or "AAA" batteries, it's, "No way, Jose," for me.
Waaayyy too much high-tech, rare-earth, gold-plated B.S. for me to swallow. The superficial short-term gains are dwarfed by long-term restrictions and financial investment.
Until the POTUS' transport, "The Beast," is powered by electric motor, I'll stick with reciprocating turbocharged gasoline or diesel motors.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
planetgeo 2/25/2023 10:09:16 AM (No. 1411472)
I happen to have sat in on meetings of experts on mining and minerals. Based on the numbers they were presenting (I'm a mathematician/data analyst) there isn't enough lithium on the planet to achieve 100% EV status, much less to sustain replacement on a long-term basis. THAT is the real #1 reason it will never happen. Why is that not being raised in these discussions?
And I happen to be someone who feels that a mix of EVs and ICEs for their respective ideal use cases is wise. The push for 100% EVs is total insanity (or total strategic weaponization by those intending to destroy the US). Take your pick.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Strike3 2/25/2023 10:11:57 AM (No. 1411474)
Biden. AOC, and Kerry. Get between Americans and real cars and you are stupid as well as ignorant of science.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Strike3 2/25/2023 10:17:05 AM (No. 1411486)
Well put, #3. It's a small niche market and apparently it fits you very well. Most of us out here in the wide open spaces, no.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
janjan 2/25/2023 10:41:01 AM (No. 1411505)
None of this is going to happen on this timeline if ever. The technology is not developed, the infrastructure is not there and the materials are not available. Just another irrational liberal fantasy.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
planetgeo 2/25/2023 10:46:24 AM (No. 1411512)
Just to emphasize the point I was making about there not being enough lithium on the planet to achieve 100% EV replacement, I suggest you pose the following sequence of questions to your favorite politician and news reporter (or to ChatGPT):
1) About how much lithium is needed for each EV, on average?
2) How many vehicles are there currently in the US, and the world?
3) What are the current known lithium reserves in the world? Projected future capacity?
Then add the following:
4) OK, now how much lithium is needed for each E-truck, such as the Tesla Truck?
5) How many heavy trucks are there in the US, and in the world?
6) How does the math look now for replacing all ICE cars and trucks in the world with EVs?
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
Firebase 2/25/2023 10:50:01 AM (No. 1411516)
The EV's are by no means Key West express, New York to Florida. People simply are not going to be willing to stop multiple times on the way from New York to Key West, as an example trip. The faster the battery is charged, the more likely it is to be damaged. Heat is the enemy.
What if someone forgets to plug in their one electric car, say because of carrying in groceries? The next day, wondering if they have enough charge, they risk a very important trip. It could be an emergency. What if they run out of charge on the highway? In a traditional ICE engine, someone could bring them five gallons of gas. What will be the resolution to be out of a charge and no where close to a charging station?
Why should we convert to electric cars, just to be hit with an increased "environmental impact fee"(carbon tax) on our electric bill?
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Zigrid 2/25/2023 10:56:49 AM (No. 1411524)
Not much different from the 11th century when King John thought he owned all of England...and determined what you ate and where you could live...sound familiar?... there will always be an elite class who want control and the power that brings....President Trump is our Robin Hood...who looked out for his people and stuck it to King Obama....
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
spiderman 2/25/2023 10:58:28 AM (No. 1411525)
Most residental homes have a 200 amp service, so if you put a charging station in your garage let's say, as soon as you plug your vehicle in it will knock every light in your hous out. Now compound that with everyone on your street trying to do the same thing.... well you get the point.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
planetgeo 2/25/2023 11:15:24 AM (No. 1411551)
Californian (greetings, I used to be one), if you want to have some fun, please attend Gov. Newsom's next press conference and ask him the following questions:
1) Thank you for banning ICE vehicles in California by 2035 (and sorry that you won't be here to see that glorious day), but how many cars are there in California?
2) How many Kwh are required to charge each EV? Total Kwh if all vehicles become EVs?
3) What is the current generating capacity in Kwh of the CA electrical grid?
4) Hahahahahahahaaaaa...
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
farmwife 2/25/2023 11:37:53 AM (No. 1411572)
'Out of my cold dead hands--'
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 2/25/2023 12:41:21 PM (No. 1411647)
Fourth reason is that no one with a brain cell is going to blow $75,000 on something that is totally worthless.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
DiegoDude 2/25/2023 12:50:37 PM (No. 1411661)
Sorry, but my 2014 Ram 4x4 with a 5.7 Hemi gets 20-22 mpg on the highway, is very comfortable, rides well and with a range of about 480 miles per tank. It takes 15 minutes fill time, if I hit the men's room, plus I can load it, pull a car/ trailer behind it and not have to worry about where to fill up. The leftist buttwipes want to kill our freedom of movement and independence. Good luck with that!
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
Geoman 2/25/2023 12:51:02 PM (No. 1411662)
Forms of public transportation cannot plow fields, reap a harvest, or deliver food products to the large urban areas, so the elites and their favorite wards of the government can be the first to starve.
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Reply 42 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 2/25/2023 4:36:14 PM (No. 1411789)
The push for EVs is to deindustrialize the world by progressively eliminating fossil fuels. They will never dominate anything except the mental illness of those who believe that they are fighting climate change. They do not fight climate change but only increase the pollution of the environment. The rechargeable batteries are extremely expensive, a big fire hazard, take hours to charge, and have no reasonable power to last maybe a hundred miles until they need a recharge.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
DrOstrow 2/25/2023 8:07:32 PM (No. 1411900)
OK #22, let's be honest !
So all it takes is a new 50A circuit in my garage and I'm all set, right ?
And the actual electricity that comes from that outlet is supplied by what ?
magic beans ? fairy dust ?
Right NOW, most EVs are running on COAL if we're being honest, like or not.
There's a LOT more to it than just an 'outlet'.
The electric grid in this country or any segment of it, simply cannot provide the
KW increases REQUIRED to supply massive numbers of EV's. And given the YEARS
required to design, build, test and get a NEW plant online, be it water, coal, gas, in addition
to the additional YEARS of lawsuits by the eco brigade, 2030 or even 2040 is a pipe
dream ! I dismiss wind and solar due to their lack of anything approaching stable
reliable output !
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
Kafka2 2/26/2023 1:17:49 AM (No. 1412031)
The article misses the three major reasons why going to all Electrical Vehicles is impractical.
1. There snot enough lithium for all the batteries require. Also, the pollution resulting from increasing the mining exceeds the the pollution from gas powered vehicals.
2. The amount of electricity required to power EVs would double demand. The only reliable energy source for electrical power generation is dams and nuclear. Both of which are under attack by the green energy crowd.
3. Travel time would be nearly double. Even if you had thousands of recharge stations, the wait time to get to the recharge and then to recharge the batteries would equal or exceed the time you could go before having to recharge.
It is obvious that forcing a switch to EVs has not been thought out by anybody who understands the technical issues involved.
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
broken01 2/28/2023 10:50:57 AM (No. 1413830)
I for one am sick and tired of the EV debate. I will NOT get one as they are impractical, unreliable and expensive. If leftist environmentalist wackos want to deal with them that's their issue I will not. Period end of discussion.
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