Eric Hoffer can tell us a lot about what's
going on in China right now
American Thinker,
by
Monica Showalter
Original Article
Posted By: DVC,
11/28/2022 9:59:15 AM
The huge protests engulfing China right now against lockdowns have left a lot of people wondering if these are just protests. The size, and scope, and vehemence, and fearlessness of the Chinese public against their very oppressive communist masters has made them appear to be a mass movement. In Shanghai, they are calling for the ouster of the entire Communist Party of China. When a billion-strong nation rises up on a cause that has unified them such as this, there's clearly the scent of revolution in the air.
The New York Times did a huge spread on the matter this morning, and it is worth looking at here.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
MDConservative 11/28/2022 10:25:36 AM (No. 1344087)
China and the CCP will survive. Chinese history is very clear, after a succession of emperors and warlords, and now the Communists, the Chinese culture is not one of individual freedom but servitude to a central power. China has been a combination of a manufacturing dynamo, coupled with a make-work economy, and those villages that survive on archaic manpower-driven agriculture, all to occupy the masses. The new poor are the old poor, and they are survivors.
This is not 1959, and there is no evidence I've seen of mass starvation or executions. The Chinese government can unleash all sorts of plagues on a rebellious populous if need be, like their predecessors over millennia. Unrest exposes opposition forces...
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 11/28/2022 10:53:56 AM (No. 1344115)
Just remember who possesses military hardware and lots of guns. Just remember who can inflict mass starvation. Just remember who can infect and entire population with a virus of their choice. Hint - the CCP. The CCP is safe and sound.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
lakerman1 11/28/2022 11:00:57 AM (No. 1344122)
For those of you unfamiliar with Eric Hoffer, he worked as a longshoreman more than any other laborer job, was known as the Longshoreman Philosopher, and had a strong belief in the common man.
I read his first book, The True Believer, when I was 17 years old. I don't agree with his belief that great things happened in the United States vecause of the common man. They happened because of uncommon men - Henry Ford, Adrew Carnegie, the Dodge Brothers, Johm D. Rockefeller, ujust to cite a few industrialists.
Hoffer was excellent in capturing the notion of a person who is almost fanatic on one direction, who smoothly reverses course. The Cheney girl would be an example, as would Hillary Clinton, who went from being a Goldwater girl in 1964 to an anti-war aealot shortlythereafter.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Pearson365 11/28/2022 11:15:34 AM (No. 1344133)
And just remember that Joe Biden and his crime family have made a number of joint venture investments in China with the Chinese Communist Party. The protests for freedom are surely endangering these investments, which is why Biden remains silent on the US support for the protestors.
Equally tragic is Biden’s silence on the spreading protests and government directed violence against the protestors by the mullahs in Iran. The same mullahs that Biden is desperately trying to appease in order to get them to agree to another meaningless at best nuclear deal.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
JimBob 11/28/2022 12:06:48 PM (No. 1344171)
I remember President George H.W. Bush, many years ago, explaining why he believed that it was a good idea to encourage trade with China. His belief was that people, once they rise above a subsistence level and begin to accumulate wealth, have always demanded freedom. He believed that American trade was a tool to help the Chinese become more affluent, and not too long after that they would start demanding more and more freedom.
Was he correct?
I guess we'll have to wait and see.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Rivetjoint 11/28/2022 12:12:47 PM (No. 1344176)
Another gambit to be wary of is when the powers that be are facing the angry, unwashed masses they can also turn to the unifying ploy of a grave external threat to the whole country. Hitler blamed Russia (and the Jews) for Germany's woes and Castro stayed in power by with a combination of brute force and the convenient external boogeyman of the USA and the embargo.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
red1066 11/28/2022 12:30:18 PM (No. 1344189)
If there were a billion Chinese protesting and confronting police and the army, then I would say something is going on in China. However, in a country with 1.4 billion people, a few thousand protesters here and there isn't going to end anything. Let alone Xi or the Communist government.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 11/28/2022 12:38:33 PM (No. 1344193)
Eric Hoffer can tell us a lot about what is happening right here. Read True Believer.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Zeek Wolfe 11/28/2022 1:27:50 PM (No. 1344224)
In France the old regime was replaced by Maximillian Robespierre, and later Napoleon. By 1815 millions died. Replacing the current China communist/capitalist leadership might lead to horrors now unimagined.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Hermoine 11/28/2022 1:34:42 PM (No. 1344236)
#6 -- Which is why it is now highly likely that China will invate Tawain...and Biden and the rest of the Woke West won't do a thing.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
stablemoney 11/28/2022 2:44:35 PM (No. 1344280)
I so much hope the Chinese people will rise and overthrow one party rule in their country. They have no liberty, and can be killed, and their organs harvested, if the CCP says so.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Venturer 11/28/2022 3:32:41 PM (No. 1344305)
Nothing the New York Slimes does is worth looking at.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
ToryWhite 11/28/2022 4:59:52 PM (No. 1344331)
To Reply 1: You say, "Chinese history is very clear." Whose history? You say "China and the CCP will survive." Really? Where's your crystal ball? Did you make these statements before Russia and a large swath of Eastern Europe broke the bonds of Communism? You really should moderate your statements, they are certainly not facts.
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