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How Putin might use a nuke — and how
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Posted By: Imright, 10/5/2022 11:29:09 PM

Six months into Russia’s invasion of Ukraine the unthinkable has happened: Russia is losing. Vladimir Putin is determined, nevertheless, and increasingly desperate. He has undertaken a partial mobilization, formally annexed four regions of Ukraine and renewed his threat of using nuclear weapons — “I’m not kidding.” Is the threat real? And if so, how should the United States respond? Russia has a substantial nuclear arsenal, including strategic missiles and bombers and a new autonomous torpedo designed to explode in harbors to create a massive tsunami. These warheads’ explosive powers range in the hundreds of thousands to several million tons of TNT equivalent.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: VirtuDawg 10/6/2022 12:00:02 AM (No. 1296569)
If Putin were to employ a nuclear weapon, Xiden would declare a "climate crisis" and sic John Effin Kerry on them. There, take that!
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Californian 10/6/2022 12:04:25 AM (No. 1296571)
We should not be in Ukraine at all. Then nukes wouldn't be an issue.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney 10/6/2022 12:12:40 AM (No. 1296575)
Talks with Russia should be sought right away to ensure nukes are not used by anyone. That is the proper response, not sabre rattling of how the U.S. would respond militarily, or issuing counter threats, or refusing to engage in any dialogue to de-esculate a dangerous situation. Americans do not want a nuclear war with Russia. Apparently, the Biden administration is all hot to have one.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 10/6/2022 12:26:55 AM (No. 1296581)
This genie must remain in the bottle at all costs! Biden and his idiot cabinet are going to get us nuked!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: DVC 10/6/2022 12:47:47 AM (No. 1296591)
Wesley Clark has ALWAYS been a dangerous nutcase. ALWAYS.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: FJB 2022 23 24 10/6/2022 1:04:01 AM (No. 1296604)
Does anyone really think bumblin stumblin Joe, who no other country really respects, has the capabilities to broker anything but the next stop at an icecream parlor? Putting this into the hands of an inept moron is suicide and congress better come up with a way to keep him in the basement when it comes to brokering anything. Remember what he said at the beginning of this ukraine invasion, he more or less taunted Putin to invade with his tough talking bravado and remember the disaster he left in his wake in afghanistan, and his crawling to the opec countries begging for more oil, and look at the mess he has made in our own country with inflation, immigration and crime. No Joe needs to just eff off, he does not have the mettle it takes to deal with Putin all he is is a tough talking idiot who makes everything he touches worse and we, the American people, are suffering for it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Mauigirl 10/6/2022 1:26:33 AM (No. 1296614)
There is nothing Weasel Clark can recommend that should be acted upon by the US. Nothing.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Geoman 10/6/2022 3:17:31 AM (No. 1296635)
I met Wes Clark after 9/11 and he had transitioned into civilian pursuits and found him to be a smart man, an excellent tactician and not a bad guy outside of politics. A democrat but not a communist is he. What he failed to do in this otherwise informative article that lays out the tactical situation expertly, is he failed to address how or why attacking Russia should they launch nukes into Ukraine would be in the U.S. strategic interest. The costs and benefits, as well as risks and rewards haven't been addressed. Without such a case being made, Congress should do all it can to stop Biden from committing us to war for Ukraine. Do not treat Ukraine as a NATO obligation. Let Western Europeans lead the charge in their own hemisphere and we can supply them as we are able. Our degraded military and caricature of a president aren't ready for war.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: chumley 10/6/2022 3:21:04 AM (No. 1296636)
We have been openly arming Ukraine and probably doing a lot more not openly. As far as I'm concerned this is a blatant act of war against Russia. If I'm fighting with a neighbor and someone keeps giving him more and better things to hit me with, I think I'd be a bit peeved, and the supplier would be my enemy. Ukraine is hardly blameless, what with all the illegal (here anyway) bio weapons labs paid for by us, the bribes to seemingly every power broker in DC, and their procurement of underage kids for the political pervs. I really dont care what happens to them, and I dont want to be in a war over them.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: mifla 10/6/2022 5:08:35 AM (No. 1296651)
As soon as the first nuke is launched, things will spiral out of control.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: 5 handicap 10/6/2022 5:58:46 AM (No. 1296679)
Wesley Clark was cashiered from the US Army and rightly so. What an ass! He was the prototype for the useless Milley, and pink panties Berger!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 10/6/2022 6:56:36 AM (No. 1296700)
Is this the endlessly self-promoting Wesley Clark? That Wes Clark?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Paperpuncher 10/6/2022 7:47:07 AM (No. 1296729)
#12 Yes it is him. However, there will be no peace until Biden and his minions are gone.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: smak90 10/6/2022 8:13:46 AM (No. 1296749)
I believe whoever is in charge of this country wants a nuclear war. They could depopulate and they would get more power to do what they want. It's a win/win as far as their concerned.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Venturer 10/6/2022 8:36:40 AM (No. 1296768)
This Russia-Ukraine war would never have come about if Trump had remained President. The democrats cheated to get Biden in the white House and this is the result. A curiosity though is that while we were all concerned about North Korea and Iran becoming a Nuclear power here we are with Russia threatening us with a Nuclear war.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: ms1234 10/6/2022 8:40:47 AM (No. 1296773)
Putin is NOT stupid. He knows that if he uses a nuke, the west will respond in kind. That's why if Putin plans on using Nukes, he'll use Nukes against the West at the same time he uses them against Ukraine. By the time the West detects Putin using Nukes, they'll be raining down on the West at the same time. No real time to respond, just panic. Russia (and the U.S.) has a first strike option plan and he'll use it way before we do. Whom ever strikes first, wins. Period.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: RayLRiv 10/6/2022 9:11:41 AM (No. 1296801)
I'm afraid if it comes down to a Russian neutron bomb or low-grade nuke going off somewhere in Ukraine the present Administration will only be capable of 'a strongly worded letter.'
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Reply 18 - Posted by: bighambone 10/6/2022 10:25:52 AM (No. 1296867)
Remember General Clark almost started a war with Russia in the former Yugoslavia when he tried to order British airborne forces to attack Russian military units who were occupying an airfield. That did not happen because a British General told Clark to hold his horses and refused to comply with Clark’s orders. So you have to take Clark’s recommendations with a grain of salt.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: bigfatslob 10/6/2022 11:01:22 AM (No. 1296907)
With the fraud president Pudding Head we might get a nuclear war. Like the vegetable in Chief said, "no one f's with a Biden". There you have it we shouldn't be arming or funding the Ukraine at all let the neighboring countries deal with Russia but not us engaging in a war with Russia by proxy. Democrats love wars, killing people if not with bullets, then by abortions. FJB
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Reply 20 - Posted by: MDConservative 10/6/2022 12:01:59 PM (No. 1296975)
FTA: "But NATO is not a party to the current conflict, though NATO members are helping arm, equip and advise Ukraine." I'm willing to bet that NATO (the US in particular) already have boots on the ground in Ukraine. Would anyone be surprised? I suggest that saying NATO/US is NOT party to the conflict is untrue. FTA: "Ideally, this response would include international condemnations, war-crimes charges directly against Putin, more sanctions and, crucially, active US or NATO military intervention directly against Russian forces in Ukraine." War crime charges are the least of Putin's concerns. If he loses, he wins a state funeral at best. Clark just cannot walk away from the need to directly intervene. One gets the vibe he is aching for the opportunity. And when the US attacks Russian territory and assets, what is the anticipated response? Bells ringing to herald Russian rescue from the dictator? I don't think so. One thing the Russians do historically when the Motherland is threatened is fight back. How far will they escalate to "save" themselves from the now attacking West? Wes, how about it?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: rochow 10/6/2022 7:08:32 PM (No. 1297372)
Wesley Clark? I would not use his advice on how to brush my hair!
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