Russian forces retreat from strategic
Donetsk city a day after Moscow's annexation
of the region
CNN,
by
Kostan Nechyporenko
&
Duarte Mendonca
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
10/1/2022 12:36:26 PM
Kyiv, Ukraine - Russian forces retreated from Lyman, a strategic city for its operations in the east, the Russian defense ministry said Saturday, just a day after Moscow's annexation of the region that's been declared illegal by the West.
"In connection with the creation of a threat of encirclement, allied troops were withdrawn from the settlement of Krasny Liman to more advantageous lines," the ministry said on Telegram, using the Russian name for the town of Lyman.
Russian state media Russia-24 reported that the reason for Russia's withdrawal was because "the enemy used both Western-made artillery and intelligence from North Atlantic alliance countries."
Reply 1 - Posted by:
marbles 10/1/2022 12:52:11 PM (No. 1292596)
The people of Donesk voted to leave Ukraine and join Russia.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
hershey 10/1/2022 1:08:23 PM (No. 1292613)
yep, who voted doesn't count, it's who counts the votes....
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 10/1/2022 3:42:33 PM (No. 1292736)
I've been following the details of that campaign, and the Ukrainians had essentially cut off Lyman, and surrounded them. Before they closed the neck of the salient, the Russians were fleeing eastward in large numbers. I expect there to be more large numbers of abandoned armored vehicles and large quantities of ammunition, both which will be rapidly repurposed for Ukrainian forces.
In the initial thrust of the Kharkiv counteroffensive, independent sources, not just Ukrainian sources, have reported the Russians abandoned, so Ukraine captured, many completely intact, undamaged armored vehicles. This includes over 100 tanks, more than 100 infantry fighting vehicles, 86 armored personnel carriers, 66 artillery pieces, a total of well over 500 intact, functional military vehicles and large quantities of ammunition. And this was BEFORE they started to surround and cut off the Lyman salient.
No telling how many more tanks, IFVs, artillery and ammunition they will capture in this latest rout.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
MDConservative 10/1/2022 3:43:05 PM (No. 1292737)
Fraud vote or not, this is now Russian territory. Think about that and Putin’s earlier statements. This isn’t trivial.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 10/1/2022 4:46:07 PM (No. 1292772)
Re #4, nobody believes this is Russian territory, and if people would look a bit deeper on this topic, they would discover, as I have, that Russian law prohibits any contract troops, or conscript troops, which is most of their troops, from being used outside of Russian territory. Only professional volunteer soldiers can be used outside or Russian territory by Russian law.
This sham voting was necessary to provide a fig leaf for Putin to push poorly trained conscripts into these battles, having chewed through a large portion of his professional soldiers.
For anyone with an interest in a view from an Australian logistics economics commentator, this is a good look at the Russian mobilization. The same source has many good videos on this topic. For the serious student, not for the casual person. Understanding this takes effort, and pushing a lot of the US and Russian propaganda sources aside.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hXnQNU8ANo&ab_channel=Perun
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
DVC 10/1/2022 4:50:47 PM (No. 1292775)
For anyone looking for solid information from non-US sources, and non-Russian sources on this conflict, Col Reisner of the Austrian military academy has been putting out some good, detailed military briefings for months, although infrequently.
Some are in German, but you can us the closed caption function and read subtitles. Most of the more recent ones are in English.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9-NER8aFJ4&ab_channel=%C3%96sterreichsBundesheer
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Omen55 10/1/2022 6:17:46 PM (No. 1292838)
I'd say Vlad is a military genius.
But that would be a lie like this vote.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Faithfully 10/1/2022 7:41:43 PM (No. 1292911)
Putin has said there is no world without 1000 year old Russia. Pray.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
MDConservative 10/1/2022 9:11:08 PM (No. 1292971)
#5 - You know better. It’s what Putin believes that matters. Kinda like some believe Trump won in ‘20 and he’ll be reinstated any day.
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