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A credit card industry group has approved
a plan to track sales of guns and ammo
with a new merchant code

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Posted By: Dreadnought, 9/10/2022 12:16:20 AM

CBS News has a big scoop this afternoon. The industry group that sets international standards for credit card companies has decided to create a new code for the purchase of guns and ammo that, while not identifying the exact purchases, will separate those items from the more generic category they had been lumped in with previously. Merchant category codes are made up of four digits and are used across all sorts of industries as a means to classify retailers, while not revealing individual product purchases. Credit card companies currently lump firearm retailers in with other outlets, classifying them as either “5999: Miscellaneous retail stores” or “5941: Sporting Goods Stores.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 9/10/2022 1:09:47 AM (No. 1273433)
This should be illegal. Spying on people by card companies.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: GoodDeal 9/10/2022 4:07:35 AM (No. 1273453)
I guess that not using a credit card to buy those things is the solution. Cash is always king.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: stablemoney 9/10/2022 5:20:28 AM (No. 1273461)
Next will be a special code for meat purchases. The possibilities are endless, and they will be exploited, the same way online platform providers won't share your private information. That should give everyone a big laugh.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Mizz Fixxit 9/10/2022 6:25:19 AM (No. 1273483)
Visa said —- “We believe that asking payment networks to serve as a moral authority by deciding which legal goods can or cannot be purchased sets a dangerous precedent.” Interpretation, Visa anticipates a revenue loss due to a substantial increase in cash sales for firearms and firearm accessories. As Poster 2 said, “cash is king.”
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Highlander 9/10/2022 6:40:06 AM (No. 1273489)
If cash is phased out and digital currency becomes the national standard, where to go, other than trade and barter?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Msquared112 9/10/2022 7:06:30 AM (No. 1273508)
Is there a government “code” for tracking the sales of barbiturates, marijuana, cocaine, opioids, Twitter posts advocating violence against conservatives, Christians and Jews? How about a code for tracking the sale of cars? After all, cars kill far more people in a year than school shooters do. How about tracking Chicago’s repeat criminals? There are more deaths in ONE weekend in Chicago than any school shooting. How about tracking people who buy how-to insurrection books on Amazon? Government is always tracking conservative movement but never liberal movements which ALWAYS cause more deaths.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: franq 9/10/2022 7:09:54 AM (No. 1273510)
Get used to seeing the word "DECLINED" on the card swipe device.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: FleetUSA 9/10/2022 7:31:47 AM (No. 1273523)
Boys in the hood never use plastic. Only legal owners do.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bigfatslob 9/10/2022 7:45:37 AM (No. 1273526)
Since the 1960s I have never purchased any of my firearms with a credit card, never. Cash only, always and the same with ammunition.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: F15 Gork 9/10/2022 7:52:22 AM (No. 1273531)
Cash is King!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 9/10/2022 7:59:14 AM (No. 1273538)
Always pay with cash, if you don't want to be tracked! Make up a fake phone number to give merchants.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: sunshinehorses 9/10/2022 8:08:37 AM (No. 1273545)
It is bad enough that the background check required for buying a gun is more and more not immediately approving a gun purchase, but making the buyer wait. A local gun dealer told me that this is happening a lot to him (and it happened to me). He said they do it because it might cause him to lose a sale as the buyer might not want to wait or come back to get the gun.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: red1066 9/10/2022 8:34:33 AM (No. 1273568)
Perhaps we move to Bitcoin for purchases. The government has no control over that.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: paral04 9/10/2022 8:38:00 AM (No. 1273573)
Nothing is off the table with these tyrants. Buy guns with cash until they take that away from us. From what I have been reading, they are trying to do just that.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: RuckusTom 9/10/2022 9:29:50 AM (No. 1273637)
Pay cash for everything.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Ribicon 9/10/2022 9:40:17 AM (No. 1273648)
Many things should be illegal in what claims to be a free country, starting with mass surveillance by government affiliates like Facebook and Google, and Amazon, with its in-home listening devices and door-mounted surveillance cameras that monitor one's comings and goings. We say these things all the time, but what good goes it do when not a single politician has stepped up with a vow to set things right?
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Amoeba 9/10/2022 10:02:48 AM (No. 1273673)
#8, exactly right. They would only use a stolen credit card and even that purchase would go on the name on the card. This is 100% against legal gun owners.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: snakeoil 9/10/2022 10:04:14 AM (No. 1273676)
Cash? I still have cash in my billfold that was there 5 years ago. I use credit cards for everything. Only time I paid cash in the last few years was at a barber shop in Tennessee that wouldn't take credit cards. Even vending machines take credit cards. Is the government tracking me? Probably. I don't care. If some low level bureaucrat is tracking how much toilet tissue I use on each trip to a water closet I pity him/her/it. Many businesses won't even accept cash because it sets them us as victims of armed robberies. I'll never see a $ 20 bill that doesn't have Andy Jackson on it.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: PrayerWarrior 9/10/2022 10:18:11 AM (No. 1273692)
This looks like the beginning of the Mark of the Beast where you can't buy or sell without the Mark. Or it's called by the German Nazi Klaus Schwab (World Economic Forum). who was born in Ravensburg, Germany in 1938, The Great Reset. Guess the Germans are still trying to rule the world with the help of Soros, Bill Gates and Obama. Dan Crenshaw is on board with their plans. hmmm. Anyone else in the Rino world?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Zigrid 9/10/2022 10:41:22 AM (No. 1273724)
Bravo poster #2....US Cash is always King...I never use a credit card these days...I never order on line and I shop locally...as for firearms....the democrats are closing the barn door after the horses are gone....WE have been preparing for obama/biden's attack on firearms for 2 years and WE are well positioned to take care of ourselves....shhhh..Canada has become a great place to buy firearms....don't tell Trudeau...castro's son...
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 9/10/2022 11:01:30 AM (No. 1273745)
Sounds like I need to start using my debit card or pay cash going forward. But after the dollar collapses, and it will soon, we will be switched to the so-called digital dollar at which time all expenses will be monitored . You spending patterns will be then used to adjust your social credit score upward or downward.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Amoeba 9/10/2022 1:03:50 PM (No. 1273855)
#19, the mark of the beast is the islamic symbols on their head bandanas that they wear.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 9/10/2022 1:13:36 PM (No. 1273866)
#2, 11, 20: Until they ban it, which will be soon. I've used cash for 'over the counter' purchased pretty much my whole life, and dread the cashless society that is coming rapidly, even without the religious overtones of 'Mark of the Beast' but I fully expect cash will be a useless commodity within five years, if not sooner. Several major retailers have already chosen to not accept cash.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: EQKimball 9/10/2022 1:16:53 PM (No. 1273871)
Is this the segueway to a modest personal property tax on existing firearms? It would be no more an infringement of the Second Amendment than the original sales tax on the same merchandise, but it would take thousands of armed IRS agents to search for and seize unreported assets.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: little guy 9/10/2022 1:48:43 PM (No. 1273898)
A number of states --- like my native New York --- require you to go to the local County Sheriff's office to get a permit before buying most (95%) guns. You take that slip of paper, the permission slip, and give it to the registered gun dealer so he/she can hand it back in after the transaction. So ... we've been tracked for years! Those of you lucky enough to live in freer states like Alabama should buy with cash. And , no, cash will not be replaced by anything soon! Much too hard for the homeless to buy a drink unless they can use coins from begging.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Highvoltage 9/10/2022 5:34:13 PM (No. 1273994)
But guns and ammo with cash and deprive the credit card companies of the money.
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