Lawmaker pushes for Chicago to join the
race for 1st offshore wind farm on the
Great Lakes: ‘This is not pie-in-the-sky.’
Chicago Tribune,
by
Nara Schoenberg
Original Article
Posted By: AltaD,
9/2/2022 10:56:39 AM
If state Rep. Marcus Evans has his way, Chicago will enter the race to build the first offshore wind farm on the Great Lakes. Evans has introduced a bill that lays the groundwork for a proposed wind farm in Lake Michigan, about 10 miles from the shores of the Southeast Side. The bill sets up a fund that would help the state to compete for federal money, including $230 million for port infrastructure projects available from the U.S. Department of Transportation.
Illinois would enter the race behind Ohio — where the Icebreaker wind farm in Lake Erie recently won a court battle that should allow construction of a demonstration project
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Delilah 9/2/2022 11:06:20 AM (No. 1266431)
What happens to the windmills in the winter? Inquiring minds want to know if it will be like Texas.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
chillijilli 9/2/2022 11:12:34 AM (No. 1266435)
Of course. The South Side. Not near Lake Forest, why is that?
And I think our esteemed northern neighbors should be protesting the environmental impact of Great Lake wind farms as well. Think about the early demise of many roughed-up Canada honkers as they fight horrible human-created (gasp) headwinds trying to migrate. Everyone knows Canada geese are a protected species, known for their ability to act as seed dispersers. Mess with them and there goes the planet. Poof!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
marbles 9/2/2022 11:13:50 AM (No. 1266439)
Why use ridiculous non producing windmills when we have very efficient oil, natural gas , coal and nuclear? Why ? So that friends of friends pockets can be lined and wealth can be amassed and the standard of living for everyone else can be reduced and most likely destroyed. So called green energy and green policies will kill you off. Take a look at The Netherlands and Sri Lanka
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Vaquero45 9/2/2022 11:19:36 AM (No. 1266446)
“This is not pie-in-the-sky.”
Uhh.... yes, it is.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
bad-hair 9/2/2022 11:20:19 AM (No. 1266450)
One windmill costs how much to put up ?
It produces how much cash before it needs to be repaired ?
It costs more to repair than a new one ? ( disposable wind mills.)
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
rockeysroomie 9/2/2022 11:27:30 AM (No. 1266454)
Just go Nuclear. Quit the bullshit, if you so worried about carbon emissions.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
padiva 9/2/2022 11:37:42 AM (No. 1266469)
Does ROI matter?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Birddog 9/2/2022 11:42:36 AM (No. 1266477)
Hey I have a great idea...since windmills are not cost effective...lets spend the money to build them 10 miles out in the lake where construction costs are 10 times as high, maintentence costs will be 100 times as high, they will have to withstand storms that sink massive ships, and Ice that gets thick enough, and moves around so much that it has destroyed nearly every other man made stucture even built on the lake! In order to "save" nature...we will destroy every single natural vista, there will not be a place in america where you can still see "Unspoiled mountains majesty, fruited plaiins...or shining seas"
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
MattMusson1 9/2/2022 11:50:04 AM (No. 1266487)
Windmills generate 5 units of energy for every unit invested. The same as chopping and burning Cord wood.
The giant blades have an inner scaffolding made of balsa wood. Demand has used up all the plantation grown Balsa wood in the World. So, they are now clear-cutting the Amazon Rainforest for Balsa wood for Wind Turbine blades. You can't make this stuff up.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
ms1234 9/2/2022 12:08:55 PM (No. 1266505)
Those pesky seagulls that fly around the Great Lakes will have something else to worry about now! One pooped on me once and I've never forgiven them. NOW let the rotary mincemeat machines begin!
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Bmoc 9/2/2022 12:09:20 PM (No. 1266507)
Illinois "owns" a very tiny portion of lakeshore along Lake Michigan, but yet, they contribute the most sewage and filth. The states of Michigan and Wisconsin control a majority of the Great Lakes and its residents pay for the care of them.
Chicago has no right to put a "wind farm" on Lake Michigan, just as it had no right to "sell" Lake Michigan water to southwestern states via a pipeline as they tried to do a few decades back. As long as I am paying ultra-high hunting and fishing license fees and other "fees" that fund the DNR (Department of Natural Resources) that protect the Great Lakes and keep the forests and wildlife of Michigan and Wisconsin, Chicago can keep their mitts off my Great Lakes!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
kono 9/2/2022 12:13:22 PM (No. 1266517)
Not pie in the sky, but junk in the water. Their precious wind farms are not more environmentally-friendly than the offshore oil development that they so-zealously condemn. And they're more prone to leaving residents and businesses without power during crises.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 9/2/2022 12:17:25 PM (No. 1266521)
Re #1,
Not just windfarms, but OFFSHORE windfarms.
What will happen in winter?
They will ice up, and then they will sink.
Pie in the sky? More like a soggy water laden pie.
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Let's talk about the wind coming out of the Chicago mayoress's office.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 9/2/2022 1:21:26 PM (No. 1266574)
It'll be seagull soup in the waters beneath those blades. And these monstrosities require lots of maintenance, which will be an expensive nightmare 10 miles out in the lake.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
mc squared 9/2/2022 1:34:51 PM (No. 1266581)
Here's the money statement. Really.
The bill sets up a fund that would help the state to compete for federal money, including $230 million for port infrastructure projects available from the U.S. Department of Transportation.
Once the govt writes the check from our treasury it goes to Chicago.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
DVC 9/2/2022 2:00:48 PM (No. 1266601)
How to ruin the view, kill more birds and make very little power.....while greatly enriching a few private investors by ripping off the public.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
jhpeters2 9/2/2022 2:07:44 PM (No. 1266608)
A plan to kill Federally protected migratory birds. That sounds like Chicago - their last contribution to the enviroment was making their sewer/river run backwards to St. Louis as to not pollute Lake Michigan.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
DVC 9/2/2022 2:08:40 PM (No. 1266609)
Re #9, as an experienced composite structures fabricator and an engineer, those balsa cores could be easily replaced with polymer foam cores, which are more predictable in properties and likely cheaper. There is no reason in modern composites to use balsa for cores unless some dimwitted EcoFreako imagines that using wood is "eco friendly" while clear cutting rain forests.
Hexcell honeycomb or various polyvinyl or polystyrene foams make excellent core materials for sandwich composite construction, very strong and light. Imagine a 1" thick foam core with a very thin fiberglass-epoxy or graphite-epoxy skin bonded on to the core. The core provides the shape, the skins provide the structural load carrying capacity. These thin skins need to be prevented from buckling, held in their desired shape, but that takes very little strength, and the primary structural strength is in the thin skins, leading to a light and stiff structure.
The last place I saw balsa being used was in sail boat hulls in the 60s. Prior to that, the cores for the WW2 Mosquito fighter bomber aircraft were balsa, too. It use birch veneers for skins, but was basically the first composite sandwich construction aircraft.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
paral04 9/2/2022 2:52:33 PM (No. 1266639)
How many more birds to these morons want to kill?
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Tennman 9/2/2022 5:45:24 PM (No. 1266718)
Putting the windmills on the wrong side of the shoreline. They don't refer to Chicago the "Windy City" because of the lake.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 9/2/2022 7:10:18 PM (No. 1266774)
Yes, go for it. Let's see what those beautiful expensive turbine blades look like frozen in place with icicles. hanging off of them.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
Sceptic 9/2/2022 7:22:14 PM (No. 1266782)
Why 10 miles out? why not close to shore, 1/4 mile out? They stuck'em all over northern Indiana, we have to look at and listen to them. Why not Chicagoans?
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
mifla 9/4/2022 9:14:05 AM (No. 1268087)
It is a bad plan, but since the goal is to simply get the money and then do little or nothing to construct a wind farm, the politicians aren't going to lose sleep over it. The probably have half of the money already spent.
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