'Dirty ol' coal' is making a comeback
and consumption is expected to return
to 2013′s record levels
CNBC,
by
Su-Lin Tan
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
8/3/2022 7:47:16 PM
Coal prices are soaring and global coal consumption is expected to return to record levels reached almost 10 years ago as the global energy supply crunch continues. While investors in coal stocks are having a field day thanks to high coal prices, curbs on carbon emissions are taking a backseat as markets and governments scramble to stock up on traditional energy supply amid bottlenecks caused by the Ukraine war, analysts say. Worse, slowing investments in new coal-powered energy facilities have tightened the supply of coal even further, Shaw and Partners senior analyst Peter O'Connor told CNBC's "Squawk Box Asia" on
Reply 1 - Posted by:
formerNYer 8/3/2022 8:06:50 PM (No. 1237042)
Back to the future!
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
NHChemist 8/3/2022 8:46:03 PM (No. 1237062)
I just checked my coal supplier. 40 lb bags have gone from $6.49 to $9.99 each. Heating this winter will hurt. Oil prices have come down to $5.00/gallon from a high of $6.00/gallon in late spring. My last fill was $2.89/gallon. Last winter my electric supplier went from $0.079 to $0.175 per KWH. No place to run.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
chumley 8/3/2022 8:50:37 PM (No. 1237065)
I am not seeing it. In my part of WV I have four mines within a couple miles of my house. All were closed by 2010. They started opening one back up two years ago and have dumped millions into getting it going, but not a single lump has left yet. I'm looking forward to all the promised truck and train traffic, but so far lots of machinery going in and nothing coming out.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
stablemoney 8/3/2022 9:07:16 PM (No. 1237073)
Green new energy, build back better, socialism, and economic sanction warfare have failed --- again.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Jethro bo 8/3/2022 9:19:10 PM (No. 1237080)
Another self inflicted shortage with now sky high prices. With our Central Planning Committee planning our energy needs from the Ivory Tower in DC, the real world suffers. Central Planning cut coal investments and over regulated it in favor to the politically popular Climate Change crowd. But all the Windmills and Solar Panels n the US can't make up for a couple of coal fired power plants. Add in a little war to exacerbate the shortage and Viola! A shortage with expected spring prices that would make Atlas Shrug. Thanks Let's Go Brandon for screwing up something as simple as reliable, dependable energy.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 8/3/2022 11:26:27 PM (No. 1237148)
Except in America, where we are pissing at Windmills.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
SweetPea3 8/4/2022 12:14:45 AM (No. 1237164)
Well, well, well. Whaddaya know?
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 8/4/2022 12:55:35 AM (No. 1237186)
Coal is REAL ENERGY. And we have enough for 800 years or more.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
snakeoil 8/4/2022 12:59:47 AM (No. 1237190)
One of my least favorite memories from childhood was going down into the basement to shovel coal into the furnace. And removing the clinkers. Natural gas was a gift from the gods.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
DVC 8/4/2022 1:29:39 AM (No. 1237202)
RE #2...is that in New Hampshire, as I read it? Can you actually buy bags of coal? I have never seen it for sale, but there are frequent trains full of Electric Car Fuel that go through KC on the way to power plants around here.
Do you use coal in in-home coal stoves for heating? I have seen it used on TV for forging and blacksmitihng, not for domestic heating. I think that was (is?) common in parts of England.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 8/4/2022 1:36:39 AM (No. 1237203)
Re #9. When I was in first grade, in the NE, my father shoveled coal from a basement coal pile to a hopper which fed our coal furnace, with hot water radiators. I loved the radiator heat as a kid, but never had to shovel coal or clean out the clinkers, being too little. Our alley beside the house was paved in cinders, and a truck filled the coal pile through a basement window with a chute into a portion of the basement with a wooden wall to contain the coal pile.
IIRC, it was ground to about 1/2" chunks. The fire in the furnace was impressive to see.
I wonder if any of those old coal furnaces are still in use? I doubt that home delivery is available any more for coal.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
mifla 8/4/2022 4:09:15 AM (No. 1237224)
People don't want to freeze to death this winter. They are funny that way.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Sully 8/4/2022 6:27:09 AM (No. 1237278)
Whoa whoa whoa. These carbon criminals are "existential threat" to the world's survival, which will be OVER in 7.5 years. "This is our D-Day!" according to AOC.
Certainly we would be justified in sending our F-35s and F-22s to these countries to subdue them and save the world once again.
I demand to know: Where are our carriers? Is all this stuff for real? If it is for real act as though it is for real. C'mon!!
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
chumley 8/4/2022 9:48:35 AM (No. 1237421)
Thanks to posters for the coal furnace memories. Coal smoke has a very distinctive smell and it brings me back to my childhood. I can remember a dump truck full of coal making a delivery to my family farm as late as 1970. We had to let the ashes cool in the morning and then dump them, but it warmed the house pretty well. My grandmother (in the city) had a huge coal furnace in the basement that had been converted to gas. Very inefficient, and to my little brother and me it looked like a giant monster from Hell when we opened the doors. Scary.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 8/4/2022 11:25:55 AM (No. 1237495)
Re #9. Same here except we had an “iron firman” that automatically kept the furnace stoked. Still had to get those dangled clinkers out and hauled away. The steam heat from the radiators was great though.
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Old Man Coal just laughs. He will still be around when the Greenies are long gone and forgotten.