Trump would 'fire tens of thousands of
civil servants' and 'gut the government'
to sort his agenda if he runs and wins
in 2024
Daily Mail (UK),
by
Morgan Phillips
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
7/22/2022 11:34:23 AM
Donald Trump has plans to purge the so-called 'deep state' beyond what any president has done before if he runs for and wins the presidency in 2024 and as many as 50,000 government workers could find themselves on the chopping block. The former president, if elected again, would move in with a plan being drawn up now to 'drain the swamp' and cut tens of thousands of civil servants from what are typically apolitical roles, according to an Axios report.(Snip)The Trump official who came up with the Schedule F order said it could apply to as many as 50,000 of the some-two million federal workers.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
bamboozle 7/22/2022 11:38:54 AM (No. 1224792)
So what's not to like?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
DVC 7/22/2022 11:39:25 AM (No. 1224794)
Well, I certainly hope so! Sounds like a great plan!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
SailorJack 7/22/2022 11:40:19 AM (No. 1224798)
That's enough to get my vote.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 7/22/2022 11:41:23 AM (No. 1224803)
Not planning to rend my garments.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DW626 7/22/2022 11:48:44 AM (No. 1224813)
Be still my beating heart. It is doubtful that this could ever happen, but the headline sure puts a smile to one's face.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Calico Al 7/22/2022 11:49:10 AM (No. 1224814)
After reading this the dems are oiling up their voting cheat machines.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
downnout 7/22/2022 11:51:42 AM (No. 1224817)
The DM sounds like they think firing thousands of government bureaucrats is a bad idea.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 7/22/2022 11:54:51 AM (No. 1224822)
Awesome! Shoot a little higher please! 40% of Fed workers are useless!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Highlander 7/22/2022 11:57:39 AM (No. 1224824)
Not hard to predict who all is going to vote against Trump besides the ballot stuffers and Dominion.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
bobmadison 7/22/2022 12:01:34 PM (No. 1224831)
ONE MORE TIME: FLUSH the swamp...
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bad-hair 7/22/2022 12:02:37 PM (No. 1224832)
Tens of thousands ??? Out of how many million ? Good riddance.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Mcscow sailor 7/22/2022 12:02:39 PM (No. 1224833)
Even if Axios were a believable source,,a 2.5% cut is under normal turnover and hardly a dent. Certainly not worthy of the headline. A return to federalism, and a smaller administrative state, is sorely needed.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Flyball Dogs 7/22/2022 12:10:22 PM (No. 1224841)
I hope he doesn’t telegraph too much more.
As #6 noted, this gives the Communists time to oil the machines and plot strategies.
IMHO the less said, the better.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/22/2022 12:10:35 PM (No. 1224842)
Just 50,000 more reasons to vote for Trump!!!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
mc squared 7/22/2022 12:11:26 PM (No. 1224846)
A campaign promise. Hope he follows through.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
sterling431 7/22/2022 12:11:54 PM (No. 1224847)
What is wrong with reducing the size off a bloated central Government that interferes with Capitalism more than it helps? The Feds have too much involvement in peoples daily lives. It has destroyed education in this country. The products of public schools are imbeciles who spout off about social justice like trained parrots and who have no ability to reason or think independently. The Gov spends wastes money like a drunk sailor on payday. The Gov supports & encourages cultural changes in our society that the great majority of Americans disagree with, such as the trans movement, sexualizing our kids, picking winners & losers in our economic system, and so on. The Gov needs to be downsized greatly. MAGA.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Vaquero45 7/22/2022 12:13:15 PM (No. 1224849)
If they got rid of half a million, you’d never notice they were gone. Previous posters are correct: entire government agencies need to be eliminated. Start with Energy, Education, Agriculture, FBI, and BATF and work down the list.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
formerNYer 7/22/2022 12:14:24 PM (No. 1224851)
Start with the FIB and CIA
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
curious1 7/22/2022 12:15:06 PM (No. 1224856)
It's a start. But the citizens will have to lean on their congress-critters to remove the ridiculous civil-service protections that have grown up around the millions of bureaucrats. And whatever you do, don't miss the SES - flush all of them, burn the buildings to the ground, then salt the earth.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Starboard_side 7/22/2022 12:23:13 PM (No. 1224867)
This sounds like it's intended to scare more government workers to work against President Trump, in particular, but also likely to motivate them to work against the Republicans.
However, there is always massive turnover when one group in power loses an election, and the new folks bring their people in.
Congress will be on their August recess, and many Dem staffers will be evaluating whether their position will be short-term due to their boss being voted out of office.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
cor-vet 7/22/2022 12:30:24 PM (No. 1224871)
The government didn't seem to care about all the private sector jobs that were lost when bidet took over! Just fire the ones designated 'unessential' when it snows or rains or they're not needed during the dozen moved to Fri. or Mon. 'Holidays' every year. Just getting rid of the 'woke' ones would also eliminate a few million. Poster #12 has the right idea. Let these slugs find real work. And while he's at it, an EO making public retirement systems more in line with what the private sector has deal with.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
SkeezerMcGee 7/22/2022 12:30:34 PM (No. 1224872)
There are about 1.87 million civilian full-time federal employees.
1/6th of there live in the Washington area.
The nationwide average pay per year is more than $83,000.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
dwa 7/22/2022 12:31:38 PM (No. 1224874)
" cut tens of thousands of civil servants from what are typically apolitical roles,"
BS. Very few are apolitical any more, especially after Obama moved his political appointees into these "apolitical" positions his last year in office. And in addition, most government workers in DC are democrats and we know democrats are anything but apolitical and believe that the ends justify the means, i.e. they will ignore policy, law, court rulings etc to promote the democrat agenda.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
Quigley 7/22/2022 12:33:42 PM (No. 1224876)
A lot of assertions with little to no sources identified. Undoubtedly trying to frighten The Gullibles.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
tivey6301 7/22/2022 12:49:50 PM (No. 1224897)
Where would be the problem in that plan?
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
HHFi2 7/22/2022 12:52:11 PM (No. 1224902)
Like 1,000 lawyers at the bottom of the ocean, I'd call that "a good start."
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 7/22/2022 12:55:03 PM (No. 1224909)
If President Trump - - or any of his aides - - reads this forum - - here are the two things I've been urging you to do first - - - -
• Eliminate all cabinet departments - - except Defense, State, Treasury, and Justice.
• Return all "federal" lands - - outside of the District Of Columbia - - to the states in which they're located.
Do those two things - - and you'll be the first U.S. president mentioned in the 25th-century history accounts.
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Rumblehog 7/22/2022 12:55:18 PM (No. 1224910)
Trump 2.0
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
red1066 7/22/2022 12:57:49 PM (No. 1224914)
Drop in the bucket as far as the number of fed workers that need to go. Whole departments need to be eliminated without shifting the employees of those departments to another department. They can start with Homeland Security, and the education department, and move on with the EPA. Then the entire top 25% of the State department, Justice department, and the FBI needs to go along with the top brass of the Pentagon.
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
smokincol 7/22/2022 12:58:45 PM (No. 1224917)
Yup!!, that's right!! and the one's who would be fired would be the one's who should be fired!!,
just the way any successful businessman would run his company
and the one learning this lesson and adhering to it is Ron DeSantis, who will be very, very good President in 2028
as long as Hong Kong mitch and the rest of the RINO's aren't around to stymy his agenda
and we all know who are the ones fitting into that category
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Hazymac 7/22/2022 1:05:13 PM (No. 1224923)
"Civil servants" are not civil servants. Get the ax.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
EJKrausJr 7/22/2022 1:19:22 PM (No. 1224934)
2.5% is not bad for a start. Then come the Departments that don't produce anything, like Education.
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
Safari Man 7/22/2022 1:21:38 PM (No. 1224936)
We could cut the Federal payrolls by 50% and nobody would notice. Do that again, several times, and we'd be talking about improvements.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
GustoGrabber 7/22/2022 1:26:35 PM (No. 1224940)
Also consider dispersing various agencies to locations in flyover country that require at least one connecting flight do DC. This is in the interest of protecting the federal government from all coming down with some form of COVID all at the same time.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
navybrat 7/22/2022 1:27:13 PM (No. 1224941)
I want Trump to run again and win! He will be going in this time with his eyes wide open. He will know those he can trust and those he cannot. He would be more cautious dealing with backstabbers. He will have an agenda of important items needing immediate attention, cleaning out the bloated government departments moving some out of DC. I do not care about mean tweets, his hair style or the color of his tie. I care about making the USA energy independent, bringing the cost of fuel down, jobs, border control, halting things contributing to inflation and making our enemies back off. He is a businessman with experience in the real world, understands very well the consequence of government interference and economics. His mental health is good. He seems to have good physical health and energy which can probably be attributed to the fact that he never smoked, drank or took drugs. I support him and will then support DeSantis for the eight years after Trump's term is up.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
MDConservative 7/22/2022 1:56:28 PM (No. 1224962)
Impeachment coming right up! Any such actions would be tied up in Congress and the courts for years to come. And that's if the list of potential Trump appointees can pass muster in the Senate for confirmation. Don't count on Mitch & Company giving J6/stolen election hardliners a pass. It only takes one wayward senator...and you can bet there is one out there if needed.
And getting rid of departments or major agencies won't get past Congress, either. No one there is much willing to cut employment, especially in their district. Go tell your neighbor she's losing her government job...see the reaction. Multiply that by thousands. The campaign ads write themselves.
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Oh how I would love to see a cut of 50,000 goobermint parasites.
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
Strike3 7/22/2022 2:18:21 PM (No. 1224987)
And the bad news is... many Americans do not see the wisdom of cleaning out the dirty basement and hauling out the garbage. They will call Trump heartless and vindictive.
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Reply 39 - Posted by:
TXknitter 7/22/2022 2:22:05 PM (No. 1224993)
This is why Trump must go back into the White House to serve out his hard-EARNED four years that the deep state stole from the American people.
We have some other good Republicans who are hungry for the Oval Office too, absolutely true. However, name one of them that have the flat-out guts and freedom from lobbyist control that President Trump does. Did Pompeo clean out State Department of old democrats serving Obama and Clinton? No. If Mike Pompeo had made structural changes that really mattered, oh we would have heard about it. We have Cruz and some other good people but they all went to the same Ivy League schools and zip - straight to work in the Bush operation and a career in GOVERNMENT. They have no earthly clue of life outside their prosperous bubble! They will never rock the boat because they like doling out jobs to family and friends who would suffer if they started any sort of clean out.
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Reply 40 - Posted by:
Thos Weatherby 7/22/2022 2:40:49 PM (No. 1225011)
Trump will also take a good look at the FBI and CIA. Sounds like reorganization time.
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Reply 41 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 7/22/2022 2:48:12 PM (No. 1225017)
Calling those uncivil obstructionists civil servants is a joke.
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I don’t doubt these activities are going on behind closed doors by President Trump, but how does this despicable rag know all this? This is just speculation by the lefties because of that schedule F and designed to set all the commies heads on fire before the midterm which we need to win resoundingly so President Trump will have the congress he needs to do all these things.
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Reply 43 - Posted by:
LWGII 7/22/2022 3:18:53 PM (No. 1225042)
Oh Don, don't tease me....
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Reply 44 - Posted by:
paral04 7/22/2022 4:00:09 PM (No. 1225087)
That is a bunch of garbage. They are all Civil Service workers who are almost impossible to fire. What does the Daily Mail know about our country anyway?
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Reply 45 - Posted by:
Venturer 7/22/2022 4:25:26 PM (No. 1225102)
I don't believe Civil service rules will allow Trump to fire that many Affirmative action useless empolyee.s
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Reply 46 - Posted by:
Amoeba 7/22/2022 5:04:57 PM (No. 1225127)
SUITS ME
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Reply 47 - Posted by:
Hairy Eyeball 7/22/2022 5:09:06 PM (No. 1225129)
I'll vote for anyone that does this.
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Reply 48 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 7/22/2022 5:59:26 PM (No. 1225162)
Take a look at the federal debt, and tell me the federal government does not need to be cut back.
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Reply 49 - Posted by:
Imright 7/22/2022 6:07:16 PM (No. 1225176)
Just imagine the amount of our taxpayer money that would save....Go Trump!! MAG!!
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Reply 50 - Posted by:
mifla 7/23/2022 5:33:49 AM (No. 1225546)
Trump once again let his emotions get the best of him. He just guaranteed that tens of thousands of voters, along with their dependents and friends will not vote for him. Like the OP, I want entire parts of the government shut down and defunded, but you have to have a workable plan.
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Reply 51 - Posted by:
MickTurn 7/23/2022 9:48:08 AM (No. 1225803)
Sounds like a solid Plan.
Every unemployed Commie is a GOOD THING!
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So at most, 2.5% of the federal bureaucracy would be fired. We need entire departments and agencies to be shut down. Wholesale change, not promises of peanuts. A lot of people also need to be locked up for real, not just in empty promises.