Why We Can't Have Nice Things: 'Good Samaritan'
Who Saved Indiana Mall Goers Is Denounced
as No Hero
Red State,
by
Alex Parker
Original Article
Posted By: Hazymac,
7/19/2022 9:18:17 AM
What makes someone a hero? How about a Good Samaritan? Evidently, such questions are contentious.
And a Sunday incident has some insisting a brave bystander shouldn’t be celebrated.
At the Greenwood Park Mall in the Indianapolis Metropolitan Area, a man opened fire. As reported by Deseret News, 20-year-old Johnathan Sapirman got off 24 rifle rounds.
Tragically, three were murdered: Victor Gomez, 30; and couple Rosa Rivera de Pineda, 37, and Pedro Pineda, 56. Two more were injured: a 20-year-old female shot in the leg; and a 12-year minorly wounded by a deflected bullet.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Hazymac 7/19/2022 9:24:44 AM (No. 1220955)
The Left abhors legal armed self defense and would rather see a big pile of dozens of innocent bodies than a dead mass murderer who was cut down seconds after he started shooting. This Red State article quotes some very evil people who are on the side of mass shooters, not on the side of their would be victims. Never waste a crisis. Pure evil.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
jimboscott 7/19/2022 9:37:22 AM (No. 1220963)
The left simply cannot accept the fact that it is the human SOUL that is the problem. The left believes people are basically good and that the violence, theft and corruption in the world are all due to something OUTSIDE of the individual, NEVER something INSIDE the heart.
To the left, the issue is 'the system'. If we could just give everyone a livable basic income then crime would cease... that is in line with their rainbow unicorn universe.
Same with guns. Get rid of guns and the murders will stop. The issue is the hardware - not the hateful heart.
And, the left is so twisted that they will march in the streets to 'celebrate' the taking of innocents lives in the womb (or with a foot still therein) then head to the local prison later that same day to shed tears over the scheduled execution of a cold-blooded murderer.
And I will say this to my Lucianne friends. If you believe that people are basically good then you have been indoctrinated too. You need to rethink that position. Consider what the world would be like with no laws. Then tell me people are basically good again.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
DVC 7/19/2022 9:39:27 AM (No. 1220965)
Antigun crazies attempting to twist this unalloyed good thing.
Sorry, not buying your fantasy BS. Any time a person stops a vicious murderer, that is absolutely GOOD. And a piece of trash saying otherwise doesn't tarnish it one iota.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
faceincrowd 7/19/2022 9:39:31 AM (No. 1220967)
That Kollar POS is no Christian. He is a woketard, soyboy posing as a Christian. Sounds like he was disappointed more people weren't killed. That is not Christian.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
texaspast 7/19/2022 9:41:38 AM (No. 1220970)
#1, they are mad at the 'good Samaritan' because he DENIED them a pile of dozens of innocent bodies! Those bodies would further their cause of disarming America - I swear, they salivate over each mass shooting. One thing I haven't seen, although it may have been in some report . . . what was the make and caliber of the weapon Elisjsha Dicken used?
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Who didn't see that coming?
When the radical left plans a shooting, how dare anyone intervene!!!
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
FJB 7/19/2022 9:45:20 AM (No. 1220976)
Leftists intend to grab our guns someday soon. After all, that's part of the Liberal's New World Order. Meanwhile, they'd probably not gripe too much if some honky saved their keisters from getting shot off.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
texaspast 7/19/2022 9:47:36 AM (No. 1220982)
The New York Times had an article yesterday with the headline "Bystander Killed Gunman 2 Minutes Into Indiana Mall Shooting". He was hardly a bystander. The cops in Uvalde were bystanders. This man actually DID something.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
bighambone 7/19/2022 9:48:04 AM (No. 1220983)
Anyone notice that prospective mass shooters gravitate to so called “guns free” places or zones to perpetrate their mass murders? Do you wonder why they do that?
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
MelRae71 7/19/2022 9:50:28 AM (No. 1220987)
Mr. Dicken's parents should be congratulated for raising such a fine young man. Who cares what some traffic reporter on Twitter says?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
TLCary 7/19/2022 9:51:27 AM (No. 1220988)
"George Floyd: An American Hero"-NAACP. Redefine the words and you change everything without so much as an argument. They redefined vaccine to mean "doesn't prevent infections" and "doesn't involve your immune system". They redefined "woman", "man", "family", and "marriage" so many times that they even lost track of their current definition. Their definition of "love" is appalling and somehow includes orgies of 30 men sharing a virus through anal intercourse (love is love, ya know). Don't play. Words have meanings, and they don't change mid-stream. Just refuse to play along.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Digiconver 7/19/2022 10:12:19 AM (No. 1221019)
"The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun". 'Twas ever thus. Greenwood Park Mall is what happens when the good guy acts. Uvalde is what happens when the "good guys" stand by and do nothing.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
MDConservative 7/19/2022 10:58:21 AM (No. 1221077)
Haters gotta hate. Now ask those who survived by the swift action of this "reckless" guy with a gun what they think.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
mc squared 7/19/2022 11:29:21 AM (No. 1221107)
The anti-gunners must celebrate with high fives when a someone sprays the crowd, as it suits their narrative.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Axeman 7/19/2022 1:43:50 PM (No. 1221260)
Classic definition of hero is someone who risks their life to save others. No argument here that Eli is a hero. The Samaritan is someone who helps others when noone else would. Eli fits both IMO.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
WhamDBambam 7/19/2022 3:03:14 PM (No. 1221363)
How I can tell that the author is a fairy Karen: “But he broke the mall’s rules!”
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
DVC 7/19/2022 3:03:43 PM (No. 1221364)
In case anyone loses sight of the immense difference in capability between a handgun and a rifle, especially beyond 10-15 yards range, I know of two instances where a brave person grabbed their handgun to stop a violent killer with a rifle, and they lost out to the superior capabilities of the rifle.
The odds are very much in favor of the person with the rifle.
It is very easy to forget that a shot that is quite difficult with a handgun is quite easy with a rifle.
We hunt with rifles and go to war with rifles for good reasons. They are far more powerful than handguns, and far easier to use effectively at longer ranges than handguns.
Mr. Dicken winning with a handgun against a rifleman is quite a feat of arms.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Hazymac 7/19/2022 3:22:56 PM (No. 1221377)
Re #17's comments: As Sylvester Stallone said with his lip curl, "Yebsholutely!"
Particularly at very long pistol range--in this case, forty yards--the defender with the pistol is at a terrible disadvantage to the rifleman, in accuracy and in power. Rifles can be shot precisely at hundreds of yards distance. To shoot a pistol effectively in self defense at beyond ten yards is a skill that few monthly range shooters possess. Under the greatest pressure of all, when dozens of lives depend on the defender's rounds finding their target, to take a spree shooter out from forty yards distance with a pistol while he is firing back is a mean feat indeed. My admiration for Mr. Dicken is great. He did what he was prepared to do.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Italiano 7/19/2022 3:26:48 PM (No. 1221379)
#17 / #18
As they say, a handgun is very useful in helping you get to your rifle.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
bigfatslob 7/19/2022 4:06:34 PM (No. 1221425)
What happened was the killer was in a gun free mall with plans to kill with maximum body count. The killer's plan was upset when an armed citizen quickly challenged him then he was in a gunfight he didn't plan on. The murderer's survival was all on him now not being able to kill any more innocent victims. The rifle shooter did believe he had the advantage at the beginning also he probably thought the cops would arrive, organize, plan, stand around and waste time but the armed citizen was on the scene and changed the narrative bring the mall killer into a gunfight. The good Samaritan was very astute and acted well and should be commended he saved lives.
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