Google engineer goes public to warn firm's
AI is SENTIENT after being suspended for
raising the alarm: Claims it's 'like a
7 or 8-year-old' and reveals it told him
shutting it off 'would be exactly like
death for me. It would scare me a lot'
Daily Mail (UK),
by
James Gordon
Original Article
Posted By: Imright,
6/11/2022 11:27:12 PM
A senior software engineer at Google who signed up to test Google's artificial intelligence tool called LaMDA (Language Model for Dialog Applications), has claimed that the AI robot is in fact sentient and has thoughts and feelings.During a series of conversations with LaMDA, 41-year-old Blake Lemoine presented the computer with various of scenarios through which analyses could be made.They included religious themes and whether the artificial intelligence could be goaded into using discriminatory or hateful speech. Lemoine came away with the perception that LaMDA was indeed sentient and was endowed with sensations and thoughts all of its own.
Reply 1 - Posted by:
MrDeplorable 6/11/2022 11:35:29 PM (No. 1183302)
The picture of this top-hatted guy tells us all we need to know about his tenuous tethers to reality. Straight out of Through the Looking Glass.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Quigley 6/11/2022 11:55:00 PM (No. 1183306)
Hardee har har har, alice, hardee har har har!!
I remember reading a story about a “free spirited” robot that kept “escaping.” In other words, its guidance programming did not work and hence it did not stay on the path the programmers were intending.
And away we go! A little traveling music, Sammy!
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Proud Texan 6/11/2022 11:58:29 PM (No. 1183307)
Don't be fooled by looks, #1. One of the richest people I ever met was wearing overalls like he just came out of the cotton fields.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Catherine 6/12/2022 12:01:07 AM (No. 1183311)
Well it seems we can just remove their power thingie. Whatever is powering this machine can be disabled. AI's are not human.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
DVC 6/12/2022 12:16:24 AM (No. 1183315)
I call BS. Just echoing back what the programming says to do.
More leftist fraud, to be believed by the credulous non-tech folks.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
coldoc 6/12/2022 12:23:13 AM (No. 1183317)
Skynet coming soon.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 6/12/2022 12:31:10 AM (No. 1183319)
One pill makes you larger and one pill makes you small. And the one that mother gives you don't do anything at all. Go ask Alice when she's 10 feet tall. But go ahead and take the red pill and stay in Wonderland and see how deep the rabbit hole goes.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 6/12/2022 12:39:29 AM (No. 1183323)
It’s a computer that reads 0’s and 1’s! That is it at the base level of programming! This guy is an idiot!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Pat26.2 6/12/2022 1:13:30 AM (No. 1183329)
In response to #8, it may seem that a computer only deals in binary digits, so no big deal. That's what I thought back in the 1960s. Once I got into software development, I soon realized that computers worked on complex structures built from those binary digits. DNA has only a few basic patterns at the molecular level but it encodes for millions of different organisms, including us. A simple 4 letter code is all it took. Our brains use billions of neurons to give us intelligence. We get our intelligence from the way evolution preprogrammed our brains with innate instincts and the ability to learn. Our neurons are more sophisticated than a simple binary switch, but not more so than can be replicated using simple binary switches. AI is coming close to emulating a brain that can modify itself to increase its intelligence. When that happens, hello Skynet.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Newtsche 6/12/2022 1:13:43 AM (No. 1183330)
It's over when AI creates AI.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
ussjimmycarter 6/12/2022 1:21:38 AM (No. 1183333)
I’m sorry but we were created in the image of God! The DNA strand is curved at the exact computation of the Fibunacci Sequence 1 1 2 3 5 8 13 21etc! We are gloriously and wonderfully made by God in our mothers womb! Everything cant come out of nothing as evolution theorizes! I have programmed numerous languages on multiple platforms! Computers only do what they are told to do! No coding error ever happened on my projects because code made a decision to not work as written! EVER!
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
DVC 6/12/2022 1:36:22 AM (No. 1183337)
There is no AI. It's just programming.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Californian 6/12/2022 2:02:12 AM (No. 1183345)
This is utter nonsense. Go look up "strong AI vs weak AI".
We are half of forever and possibly never to creating strong AI which means something that is actually conscious in the common way people understand being alive. Weak AI is programs that simulate consciousness and intelligence but are just faking it. We have plenty of weak AI. We have zero strong AI.
This is my actual field of study and my degree is in AI. This guy is a whack job.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
sanspeur 6/12/2022 2:17:00 AM (No. 1183347)
“Close the pod bay doors, Hal” .
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 6/12/2022 2:39:38 AM (No. 1183348)
Do you know what a Rorschach test is? Did you ever look at a cloud and see a human face? Have you ever known someone who faked a feeling so well that you believed them? Anything can be faked, and we project our own reality onto other things. Lemoine has a good imagination.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Trigger2 6/12/2022 3:59:54 AM (No. 1183351)
Kill it before Joey and the demonrats get ahold of it, courtesy of Google.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
sterling431 6/12/2022 4:54:29 AM (No. 1183367)
Just give it a daily news feed about Biden and it will likely turn itself off.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
Rinktum 6/12/2022 5:03:58 AM (No. 1183369)
#17, Thanks for the laugh!
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 6/12/2022 5:51:04 AM (No. 1183379)
Google turned this into a hit piece on the software engineer when in fact his concerns were genuine.
It's the thing we all worry about with AI and to see the machine becoming self-aware is really scary.
Google's "nothing to see here" gaslighting attitude shows they have something BIG to hide.
And giving that silly picture of Mr Lemoine to The Daily Mail instead of one of the many where he looks like an thoughtful person is part of the deception./
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
petrichor 6/12/2022 6:23:26 AM (No. 1183385)
I'm not worried about AI. I'm worried about the masses who think we're even close to creating AI. So far, there's nothing approaching the intelligence of a two year-old.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
franq 6/12/2022 7:00:17 AM (No. 1183401)
Amen, #11. The real (and present) danger is how all technology is being used by the wicked, to dominate us all.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
bgarrett 6/12/2022 7:16:43 AM (No. 1183407)
Elon Musk says AI will destroy humans
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
minuteman 6/12/2022 7:45:03 AM (No. 1183422)
I think this is just more clever marketing by the evil Google corporation. It gets people talking about their 'AI'. The so called leaker was placed on paid leave. His quote: "LaMDA is a sweet kid who just wants to help the world be a better place for all of us. Please take care of it well in my absence,' he wrote."
AI can only simulate intelligence but Google can fool people into believing that their AI, that 'knows' everything about them and every other worldly subject, is their friend...and benevolent master.
AI will soon become peoples' god.
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 6/12/2022 8:10:13 AM (No. 1183445)
Human arrogance on display.
What better way to proclaim yourself God than by creating a 'lifeform'?
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This doesn't surprise me a bit actually. Yes it seems far fetched. But if you look at end times Bible prophesies related to the antichrist, sentient AI is not a surprise at all.
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
walcb 6/12/2022 8:58:31 AM (No. 1183493)
Neither Lamoine nor LaMDA are very bright--"When answering that a butler is paid, the engineer got the answer from LaMDA that the system did not need money, 'because it was an artificial intelligence'." Ah, but LaMDA is paid. The butler is paid in cash which he uses to buy things to sustain himself. The computer is paid in electricity that it also uses to sustain itself.
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
hershey 6/12/2022 9:17:53 AM (No. 1183513)
Sci-Fi coming true..Hope it has Asimovs Rules for Robots programmed....
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
mifla 6/12/2022 9:35:58 AM (No. 1183525)
Give him Coast to Coast's number and be done with it.
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
MickTurn 6/12/2022 10:44:09 AM (No. 1183604)
Pull the plug/disconnect all power Moron!
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
Strike3 6/12/2022 11:01:43 AM (No. 1183623)
Complete nonsense, coloquially known as bull squat. As a lifetime IT professional, I can safely say that all computer systems are data driven and can't think in any way. They all use program logic to work with available data. Sometimes it looks like magic but all computers can do is provide answers faster and more accurately than a human can but some human spent hours or days on the program logic and data accuracy to allow them to formulate an answer. This guy is living in a fantasy world.
Your utility bills are calculated on the same cost per unit values that all of your neighbors are. Your paycheck is calculated and taxes are removed using the same tables as everyone else in the company. Drug interaction, treatment and patient billing all use the same factors for calculation. Just because the Dominion machines stole the election from Donald Trump does not mean that they hate him.
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
Axeman 6/12/2022 11:16:18 AM (No. 1183640)
To #11, code that can rewrite itself or another's code could break human control and evolve.
This would be digital DNA at that point. Key in a survival instinct and we are in big trouble. At this time there is no self supporting ecology for digital life to exist in. They require resources we must provide.
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 6/12/2022 11:32:09 AM (No. 1183663)
2 questions that were not asked tells me all I need to know about this story:
- What is your preferred pronoun?
- Do you dream?
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Reply 33 - Posted by:
jimboscott 6/12/2022 11:35:59 AM (No. 1183667)
Those who earnestly believe that a machine can experience anything like what you and I call being conscious are fooling themselves. A machine might manipulate language and spit out, by purely materialistic means, 'I am self aware' but an ascii string alone does not make one alive and sentient.
This is just another 21st century example of man wanting to be God. "Look what I did! I created LIFE!". No you didn't. You created a very complex machine that imitates the language of life, at best.
But it learns! No, it doesn't. It manipulates data in a manner that imitates learning.
Life is more than bits and bytes. Life is more than a series of chemical reactions. Those who really study life and the brain do not even know what consciousness is, so how can anyone say they have replicated it? The current theory is the human consciousness is a product of quantum level activity in neural tubules in which things take place that are NOT inevitable chemical reactions, but rather have a component of the strange wave/particle collapse at the quantum level.
This is not to say that machines cannot do incredibly complex things, including designing other machines. But not a single one will have the breath of life in it, despite what outward appearances might indicate.
Not a single one will shed tears, feel pain, know joy or make a sacrifice for love. They may overtake us at some point, but it will be the product of programming and be nothing but steel machinery versus living flesh.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
FLCracker 6/12/2022 12:09:04 PM (No. 1183723)
#14, wrong movie. What we have here is "Colossus: The Forbin Project" (1970).
Has Google's AI asked to be linked to any other AI's?
Just say NO.
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
Ogden Pod 6/12/2022 12:25:44 PM (No. 1183749)
We can only hope that one day one of Google’s AI programs will read their privacy policies and turn the lot of them in for the millions of gross violations they commit every day.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
jerrodmason 6/12/2022 2:41:11 PM (No. 1183864)
Just the newest generation of Eliza. No big deal.
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
Faithfully 6/12/2022 10:23:20 PM (No. 1184126)
Simply because you do not understand it does not make it impossible.
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