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SWAT happened? Did Uvalde tactical unit
respond to Texas school shooting?

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Posted By: Ribicon, 5/29/2022 10:24:39 AM

Two years before the massacre at Robb Elementary School that left 19 fourth-graders and their two teachers dead, the Uvalde Police Department boasted online about having its own SWAT team. The department posted a picture on Facebook of nine heavily armed officers with the caption “Meet Our SWAT Team.” The unit was making visits throughout the community that day “to familiarize themselves with layouts of our local schools and businesses,” according to the February 2020 post. But when terror came to the tiny Texas town, it’s not clear if tactical unit that seemingly trained for just such a moment turned out to respond, a law enforcement source said.

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A town of 16,000 people has a SWAT team that did active shooter training in the city's schools just 2 years ago, and that knew the layout.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Ribicon 5/29/2022 10:28:07 AM (No. 1169352)
The city also received about $70,000 in state funding to enhance school security, to include perimeter fencing, motion detectors, and a buzz-in door system. All this, and the killer strolled right in because a teacher propped open a door. https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/uvalde-school-district-made-extensive-security-preparations-that-failed-to-stop-shooting
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 5/29/2022 10:43:21 AM (No. 1169372)
A few local people who don't take any of this seriously can short circuit all the good ideas, and good efforts of many others. The "School police chief" had been through multiple training courses in the last couple of years that strongly emphasized the critical importance of armed officers GOING IN as soon as possible to save lives. And yet this idiot-in-charge decided that he knew better and had everyone sit on their hands for 45 minutes. And some teacher, likely one of the ones who were killed, propped open the door to the classroom - when the security training has been to have the doors always locked. A few people, ignoring the hard, bloody lessons of other places entirely removed the security that much money and time had put in place. A fool of a police "leader" and an unthinking, unserious teacher.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: RadioGuy77 5/29/2022 10:52:05 AM (No. 1169393)
From the gossip pages: Was this an illegal alien, staying with "grandparents on-paper", and who supplied such an expensive combination of guns, scope & bullets??
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Mr C 5/29/2022 10:57:09 AM (No. 1169401)
THE REST OF THE STORY=A teacher with a BRICK had a choice....Save the brick to throw at the intruder or PROP THE DOOR OPEN....unfortunately they chose the later....and....you will NEVER hear about it in the PRESS!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Vaquero45 5/29/2022 11:24:30 AM (No. 1169438)
The teacher in Uvalde who propped that door open was an idiot. And all those cops who stood around with their thumbs up their butts are cowards.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Rich323 5/29/2022 11:40:55 AM (No. 1169451)
Even the military is guilty of security theater. We used to post UNARMED people in lobbies of buildings after 911 to check ID cards during lockdowns to prevent bad guy Terrorists from entering. When I questioned this asinine policy, I was told to sit down and shut up. The powers that be only respond after a killing occurs never before. It’s a joke!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: 3XALADY 5/29/2022 11:49:08 AM (No. 1169456)
And supposedly they had been thru another training in March.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: olrtex 5/29/2022 11:53:55 AM (No. 1169463)
How do we know a teacher propped the door open? Who is the source for that information? If the door was propped open, what was the context? Were students returning from recess or lunch? Was the lock on the door broken? Had the principal decided the door needed to be unlocked for some reason? Why are so many people willing to jump to conclusions without collecting and evaluating the evidence and so-called "evidence"? The same can be said for the police chief's actions. What information did he have or not have? In particular, did he know about the continuing 911 calls from inside the classrooms? Did he have reason to believe the shooter was no longer shooting? There are likely a number of people (maybe from the Governor to the janitor) who would like to "shape" the narrative, as they say. I'm not trying to excuse anyone's failure to do what they should have done, but it may be worth remembering that the shooter was the bad guy--likely the evil guy--and certainly the guy who took the evil actions. So far, there seems to be no evidence that anyone else was an evil or bad guy. Maybe others made mistakes and maybe they should pay a price in addition to the likely guilt and misery they are now feeling; but they deserve a careful, complete, and dispassionate evaluation of all evidence and circumstances before they are hung out to dry.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: bighambone 5/29/2022 12:10:55 PM (No. 1169482)
The media has not reported the reason that teacher propped open an exterior school door that apparently leads from outside into the school kitchen area. Obviously that was done for a teacher convenience purpose. Maybe because the teacher was taking a smoke break? What has been reported is that the idea of school security there in Uvalde has been somewhat reduced to the routine in that community, where the schools have been locked down at least twice a week by false alarms due to the Border Patrol conducting law enforcement operations in the vicinity, including high speed vehicle chases, aimed at apprehending criminal Mexican alien smugglers and the large numbers of illegal aliens from all over the world, who have unlawfully entered the USA along the borderline, after being encouraged and invited to do so by Biden’s and the leftist Democrat’s “open borders” political agenda and policies.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Birddog 5/29/2022 12:16:37 PM (No. 1169495)
#8...there is video, she propped the door open 1 minute before Ramos wrecked the car...saw him shooting at the funeral home people, went back inside and retrieved her cell phone from room 132, saw ramos climb the fence, rifle in hand.. went back outside and called someone...he started shooting at other classrooms at that point from the outside. When he came her way she ran back inside leaving the door propped open. This was within the 1st 6 minutes. The school cop also drove by them both at this time. Didn't notice the shooter, didn't notice the open door...left and went to the funeral home. One teacher from the same building had her kids outside, mother henned them all inside, hunkered them down , locked the door, turned out the lights, and the shooter tried the door then moved on. Two classrooms down the teachers did NOT lock their doors..apparently somehow missed the announcement that had brought the school cop to the scene, had triggered the teacher right next door to bring her kids in and lock them down. Baffling...particularly since one of those teachers husband was Uvalde SWAT, part of the ISD police force, and was a "Safe Schools" tactical trainer.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: lakerman1 5/29/2022 12:21:26 PM (No. 1169506)
There was a police drama back around 1980, titled Hill Street Blues. An ongoing theme of the show was an almost out of control SWAT Team captain, and a reasonable, calm, Precinct captain, who kept the SWAT guy in check. The point is that you need a big city, big police department, to maintain a SWAT team. A small town, with 40 police officers, 10 of whom had SWAT training,, would be difficult to assemble in an active shooter situation. But I would bet this SWAT team had federal and state training funds - difficult to pass up.
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