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Texas cop says officers didn't rush to
find gunman because 'they could have been
shot' then claims they DELIBERATELY locked
inside classroom to save other students:
Experts slam 'disgusting' decision that
doctors say sealed the fate of injured kids

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Posted By: Ribicon, 5/27/2022 8:55:01 AM

Texas cops said last night that they didn't immediately rush in to find the shooter on Tuesday's attack after being shot at because they feared they might be killed, and even suggested that they deliberately locked the gunman in the classroom where he slaughtered 21 people in order to trap him. Department of Safety Lt. Chris Olivarez made the astonishing comments during an appearance on CNN last night.(Snip)'So they were able to contain that gunman inside that classroom so that he was not able to go to any other portions of the school to commit any other killings,' Lt. Olivarez said.


They contained the killer in the classroom by hiding outside the school behind school buses?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 5/27/2022 9:05:25 AM (No. 1167477)
Please tell me this is not true.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Cindiana 5/27/2022 9:08:58 AM (No. 1167487)
Why, why, why are ANY law enforcement officers allowed to be interviewed by the media??? This is the beginning of an increasingly complicated and bizarre examination of the case, and those big mouths should just shut up and do their jobs.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: jimboscott 5/27/2022 9:27:25 AM (No. 1167509)
The saying among gun advocates use to go "Remember, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away". Looks like it might need to be altered to "Remember, when seconds count, the police are about an hour or more away hiding behind some school buses."
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Reply 4 - Posted by: fishbone 5/27/2022 9:40:32 AM (No. 1167525)
I disagree #2. They should spill their guts. We need to know who to replace.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: EJKrausJr 5/27/2022 9:46:30 AM (No. 1167533)
First responders failed. The real first responders, the educators, were defenseless. Arm and train the educators. All teachers should be trained and armed. Real Resource officers are employed in the schools. Harden the schools. It's not a difficult problem to solve.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Venturer 5/27/2022 10:07:44 AM (No. 1167552)
Lot's of rumors. I don't know what to believe, I take all of these stories for what they are worth. Nothing. Why would they lock this killer in the room to keep him from going to another room, they could have shot him if he came out of the room. This doesn't make sense , but if true heads need to roll.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Gordon Mills 5/27/2022 10:09:29 AM (No. 1167555)
The students weren't injured they were already dead. The media are upset because many more were not killed by foolishly rushing in. The shooter was taken out by trained professionals. Were mistakes made? Yes. Were lessons learned? Yes. Can procedures be improved? Yes. It's going to be a sorry day if the frothy-mouthed dims, lefties, gun-haters, and our enemies are allowed to 'change the tone'.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Sonofsoldier 5/27/2022 10:13:43 AM (No. 1167562)
Tis the result of the latest attacks on Police: Defund the Police movement, even though Texas is not really in a defund mode it still affects them, also the George Floyd actions and convictions of the officers have taken the natural protective and aggressive instincts from Police, rather made them consider any negative consequences to their actions in this type of scenario.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Birddog 5/27/2022 10:19:18 AM (No. 1167567)
It's a tale of two doors...both armored steel...both left unlocked/open until a mass killer went through them and as a fox inside the hen house 50 cops couldn't get in them. 19 kids, 2 teachers killed, 13 more wounded ALL inside that one room. Meanwhile, parents drive from 40 miles away, go into the school and retrieve their own kids. Off duty cops and BP agents drive across town...go in on their own retrieve other kids...BORTAC guys go in an hour later, not even wearing helmets, finally take down shooter. Ya it "Might" be similar to suicide for ONE armed good guy to confront another armed BAD guy, but that IS the Job, two/three/five/20 armed, ballistic vest clad guys confronting a single armed guy? Not suicide...absolute certainty of taking him out. Sheer rate of fire and weight of metal they are able to throw at the guy guarantees it, and guarantees the bad guy will be rattled, ruining effective aim, even IF he has body armor, will be turned so that soft areas are exposed, arms legs head, all soft to begin with. "Well...he has a rifle, we only had under 50feet? In a hallway? It makes no difference what you shoot him with. Versus a guy with ZERO gun experience? Never been to a range? Apparently had not even fired a gun before that day? Nearly every cop has primary side arm, back up gun and multiple reloads, and KNOWS if they retreat babies are gonna die. Retreated. IF the bad guy is shooting at them? He is NOT shooting at kids. Armed school officer did NOT confront shooter outside the school...was off driving around in his car somewhere else.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: 0658 5/27/2022 10:33:53 AM (No. 1167582)
This whole law enforcement response is sadly reminiscent of the "Coward of Broward". Could it be wide spread problem?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Rich323 5/27/2022 10:35:35 AM (No. 1167583)
Number seven has a hard on for somebody who? Many statements are speculative no proof.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: DVC 5/27/2022 11:20:00 AM (No. 1167646)
So, now alongside the Broward Cowards, we have the Uvalde Cowards.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: mc squared 5/27/2022 11:44:47 AM (No. 1167681)
It's still early and I wasn't there. Let this settle.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: DVC 5/27/2022 12:41:14 PM (No. 1167728)
Many small town police forces have very little training, and are mostly for arresting drunks and speeders. Anything beyond that may be beyond their skills. I'll bet that this is what we will ultimately find. I suspect that we'll learn that they had no clue how to assault a building, probably had no patrol rifles available or training in using them, and probably had no real training beyond how to load, unload their guns and shoot a box of ammo once a year at a big B-27 target at 10 yards and hit it some of the time. I wonder if they even had the ordinary police bullet resistant vests, which will NOT stop rifle bullets, only pistol bullets. Not all towns can afford even those vests. When I was a teen in a very small city in Florida the 'town policeman' was a 65 year old nice man who provide his own .38 revolver in an old holster and mostly was a crossing guard getting kids safely across the highway to the school in the mornings and afternoon. A nice man and he got the kids across a fairly busy highway safely every day, but I doubt he had any police training at all. That was in the middle 60s, but I wonder how much things have really changed in small towns which normally have little crime and which have tiny budgets for everything.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: privateer 5/27/2022 12:45:28 PM (No. 1167733)
Okay, listen up! This is from the top. Stand down; let him be. When it's safe to enter, we'll go in and assess the situation. Take your chalk.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Strike3 5/27/2022 1:38:45 PM (No. 1167788)
These cowardly cops would be better off if they stopped tap dancing and stuck to one story. Bottom line, they were outside, shooter was inside.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: bighambone 5/27/2022 1:51:16 PM (No. 1167801)
There are more ways other than directly storming that particular classroom to take the shooter out. When you look at photographs of the school you will see that all the classrooms have large windows. In that respect within a few minutes after making an assessment of the situation, with the perpetrator having fired over one hundred rounds, the incident law enforcement commander could have had the particular classroom windows broken out and enough tear gas fired into the classroom to either to blind the shooter as far as him being able to determine what was going on around him, or cause him to enter into a commit suicide by cop situation. Being temporarily overcome by tear gas would certainly adversely affect the innocent children and teachers still alive in the classroom, but in the long run would be better then them being shot and killed by the perpetrator. Hindsight is great!
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Kumoan 5/27/2022 1:57:41 PM (No. 1167809)
waiting for the tiger moms to lead them...
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Reply 19 - Posted by: red1066 5/27/2022 2:35:37 PM (No. 1167830)
So, according to this clown, no one should enter the NY subway because they could be shot. No one should go into any downtown in any major city because they could be shot. These people entered a profession to safeguard a town knowing damn well that they could die at any moment even in a domestic argument call. Yet they stood by and did nothing while some nutjob with a gun shot and killed 21 people in a school. However, they did manage to arrest and Taze several parents.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: rikkitikki 5/27/2022 4:25:33 PM (No. 1167915)
Some food for thought: for the same $44 billion the USA is sending to Ukraine, it could pay and equip five or six full-time, off-duty LEOs to stand guard in every elementary and secondary school in the USA. The problem is not the lack of gun laws, or their inefficiency, because perps will always get guns. The problem is not doing enough to deter them. There's a reason they attack large groups in gun-free zones: we have yet to hear of a mass-shooter attacking a police station, for example. The shooter at Fort Hood some years ago did attack his fellow soldiers...but he knew none of them were armed at the time.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: rikkitikki 5/27/2022 4:30:37 PM (No. 1167927)
Only speculation here, but some of the casualties may have survived if they'd not been left to bleed out during the long wait to breach.
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