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Posted By: Dreadnought, 5/26/2022 3:26:15 PM

The 18-year-old gunman who struck the Robb Elementary School in Uvalde, Texas, on Tuesday, entered the building “unobstructed” through an unlocked door and was not engaged by police outside the school as initially indicated, according to the Texas Department of Public Safety. In a press conference at the scene of the shooting on Thursday afternoon, DPS regional director Victor Escalon laid out a timeline for the shooting. He said that after shooting his grandmother, Ramos fired at two persons at a nearby funeral home before entering the school – climbing over its fence and entering through its west side door, a video of which was obtained by

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Reply 1 - Posted by: seamusm 5/26/2022 3:32:20 PM (No. 1166983)
What twits don't even lock the door? Controlled access MUST be the standard these days.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: clipped wings 5/26/2022 3:37:52 PM (No. 1166991)
I agree, #1. Also, why did the local police wait for *an hour * for the Border Patrol to arrive and confront the single gunman . The local police looks weak and inept.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Thos Weatherby 5/26/2022 4:01:06 PM (No. 1167014)
It sounds like a lot of "fails" before the shooting once again. Gun control is useless if we don't begin with the real problem. Six police and no one stopped them. No one noticed his climbing of the fence. Door not locked. Class rooms not locked. Where were the 6 policemen? And they want to take MY gun away.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: vrb8m 5/26/2022 4:12:38 PM (No. 1167028)
Off topic -- just heard on radio that the husband of one of the teachers that was killed has died of a heart attack.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: bad-hair 5/26/2022 4:13:41 PM (No. 1167029)
Still have not heard. Did he have a rifle or not ?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 5/26/2022 4:15:55 PM (No. 1167033)
They made one attempt....then gave up and waited an hour. The story changes by the hour. Do these officer not have patrol rifles in their vehicles? Our PARK Police here in rural KS, primarily in charge of a bunch of county parks with jogging trails and fishing lakes have a handgun, a shotgun and an AR-15 in their vehicle. In these times, not having a patrol rifle in each vehicle, and the officer trained to use it well, is inexcusable negligence.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Robert D 5/26/2022 4:32:33 PM (No. 1167045)
I believe I heard recently that standard procedure in school shooting situations in most "metropolitan" areas is to immediately intervene/attack the shooter, regardless of reinforcements, I am not a law enforcement officer or close to it, but that seems to me to be a "reasonable" approach unless you are the first officer on the scene. That officer is likely to die. Not a good solution. Locking doors and arming teachers/staff seems a better approach.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: TrueBlueWfan 5/26/2022 4:38:36 PM (No. 1167051)
I am livid, and I can only imagine the anger the parents of these dead kids feel knowing the police waited an hour to go in. It is their job to serve and protect. I understand 2 policemen were injured, but c'mon. It was only one guy. And they couldn't unlock the classroom door without a key? Ever heard of shooting the lock? Failure after failure.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: BarryNo 5/26/2022 4:45:16 PM (No. 1167058)
I'd like to believe Escalon, unreservedly. I HOPE someone didn't let this psycho go by unopposed. I hope his report is accurate.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: formerNYer 5/26/2022 4:47:28 PM (No. 1167061)
If the FIB is in charge, we'll never get the true story.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: john56 5/26/2022 5:02:30 PM (No. 1167068)
Uvalde is far from being a "metropolitan" area. San Antonio is over 70 miles away and you pass through several smaller towns enroute on the way. At any time, I would expect maybe a handful of city police, maybe one or two "school district" police, maybe a county sheriff deputy (although most of them would be in the unincorporated areas of the county, which is 1559 square miles -- larger than Rhode Island). You probably have a few Border Patrol folks in the area at any one time. Unless there was an FBI, DEA, or AFT agent in town on some other business, you can pretty well scratch those guys off the list. Just doing the math, you'd be hard pressed to get much more than a dozen LEO for an immediate response. Yes, it sounds like from this story that someone didn't lock the door. That's not uncommon in small towns, where you know the neighbors. Was it right? No, but we're not talking a school in crime-plagued Chicago, Minneapolis, Portland, or New York. It's Uvalde, Texas. A city in the middle of nowhere with hard working people, modest homes, and trees.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: blueline 5/26/2022 5:07:22 PM (No. 1167071)
I've been attempting to gather as much info as I can about how this tragedy transpired and was responded to. If these are facts, I am becoming incensed. "FAILURES" would be right - multiple failures by people and organizations that had a solemn responsibility to these precious kids and their families. Everything looked great on paper, and this community was trusting their "leaders" to fulfill their promises to keep their children safe. They FAILED. Now, they should be held accountable. Immediate resignations are required. The school district had a policy of keeping the building and the classrooms locked. It is manifestly evident that they failed to enforce the policy adequately. Once the killer was inside a locked room with multiple victims, the situation was far too desperate for any delay Any law-enforcement supervisors and/or administrators who ordered or permitted the "pull-back" and "cover" instructions should resign in disgrace. Any officers who were given such an order should have defied it and went in anyway. To hades with any consequences. Kids were being killed. Officers should have gone in and destroyed anything between them and this killer, then destroyed him! Go in from both sides of the room, breach windows, doors, concrete block walls, whatever. Attack it relentlessly until it is removed, then stop the cretin. I've got to stop now. I'm angry.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: DVC 5/26/2022 5:43:41 PM (No. 1167096)
RE #5, apparently had an AR15.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: LadyVet 5/26/2022 5:46:25 PM (No. 1167098)
Sounds like the door had been "hardened" to keep a shooter out. The door lock worked. Problem is that the shooter got inside and then locked the door. There are probably going to be a lot of changes made after this horrible event is studied; example is types of locks, location of keys, access to lock codes, etc. And LEO will he trained to NOT ask kids to reveal their location before the shooter is subdued or dead.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: DVC 5/26/2022 5:48:45 PM (No. 1167102)
Thank you, #12. Like aviation safety regulations, apparently the only way we can get changes taken seriously by a lot of folks is the "written in blood" which means that real changes only happen after an airliner is scattered in a burnt streak across the landscape littered with bodies. Seems like the lessons that were "learned" after Columbine, and "relearned" after Broward.....were not learned at all by many, or taken seriously for a month, and then found to be "too inconvenient"....and abandoned. Very sad, and VERY unnecessary.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: DVC 5/26/2022 6:15:24 PM (No. 1167129)
Look at the school on a satellite image. It has classrooms in separated wings, with the classroom doors opening onto open breezeways. There is no exterior wall to this SET of separate buildings, it is impossible to harden it significantly, other than the individual classroom doors. Apparently the classroom door was OPEN. Security was clearly not of any concern.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: NorthernDog 5/26/2022 6:26:15 PM (No. 1167136)
They simply weren't prepared for anything like this to happen. There are undoubtedly thousands of small cities and towns that operate the same way. The elementary school in our area has a similar design. There's an easily breached chain link fence and the school has several doors that lead to the parking lot, playground, soccer field, etc... Kids come and go from the playground at various times throughout the day.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Anti_democRAT 5/26/2022 7:12:52 PM (No. 1167162)
The perp was shot 15 times. Justice would be that the first 14 were none lethal and slowly administered followed by the 15th kill shot to send him to hell.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 5/26/2022 7:30:08 PM (No. 1167173)
Consider this, suppose Ramos had a knife instead of a gun. With the poor security and feeble response of law enforcement, he could probably killed almost as many helpless children given the time he was alone with them. Except for liberals, it's not about the weapon. It's about a crazy, evil person willing to kill innocents.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: caljeepgirl 5/26/2022 7:58:04 PM (No. 1167186)
I read 'somewhere' that the police were waiting for negotiators to show up?!?!?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: rytwng 5/26/2022 10:08:32 PM (No. 1167245)
The unlocked door is the reason. Who was in charge of locking doors? How did the shooter know the door was unlocked?
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