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‘No one should be pro-abortion!’ Maher
accuses Dems of moving away from ‘safe,
legal and rare’

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Posted By: Imright, 5/14/2022 9:14:30 PM

HBO “Real Time” host Bill Maher smacked Democrats on Friday during his show for moving away from their former position of “safe, legal, and rare” on abortion and attempting to ditch the label “pro-choice” for the more graphic term “pro-abortion.”Maher cited the Clinton-era leftist abortion mantra of “safe, legal, and rare,” arguing “that’s not where the Democrats are now” and that they “don’t say that anymore.” He then proceeded to blast the pro-choice caucus in the House, suggesting they change “choice” to “decision” and potentially use “pro-abortion” instead.He flatly stated that “No one should be pro-abortion.”

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DVC 5/14/2022 9:19:02 PM (No. 1155624)
They must be ordering pallets of sweaters in Hell. This is the third time this month that Maher has made sense.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: jeffkinnh 5/14/2022 9:26:41 PM (No. 1155633)
"I don’t have an official U.S. government position on where people protest." So when Americans decided they should protest in THEIR Congress, it wasn't an insurrection after all? Dems have decided that the only time the rules apply is when the rules support them. When the rules don't support them, anything goes. Under that interpretation, might makes right. We can stop being so sensitive to dem feelings. All we have to do is take over and shove them out of the way.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: SkeezerMcGee 5/14/2022 9:49:34 PM (No. 1155646)
From "safe, legal and rare" to unlimited abortions on demand until the baby's birth and financed by government. California is considering enacting a statute that would allow killing of babies up to 28 days after birth. https://www.lifenews.com/2022/03/24/california-bill-would-allow-killing-babies-in-infanticide-up-to-28-days-after-birth/ There is a federal statute called the Partial-Birth Abortion Ban Act of 2003, enacted November 5, 2003, 18 U.S.C. § 1531, which prohibits a form of late termination of pregnancy called "partial-birth abortion," referred to in medical literature as intact dilation and extraction. This law was enacted in 2003, and in 2007 its constitutionality was upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court in the case styled Gonzales v. Carhart. The major problem with this law is that it can be avoided by abortions other than by intact dilation and extraction. It needs to be amended to expand its scope to include all late term abortions except those needed to protect the physical health of the mother, which obviously excludes babies who have been delivered (those envisioned by the aforementioned potential California statute).
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Catherine 5/14/2022 10:30:19 PM (No. 1155666)
I agree in a way. The abortion issue has been taken over by hyper groups screaming pro abortion rhetoric. Most of us are not pro abortion but are simply pro choice early in the pregnancy if it's the wish of the mother. Early weeks only. I can't imagine anyone gleefully wanting people to abort babies. Then there are those who think they can tell women what to do with their lives. People who constantly say "well that woman should.......' At what point do any of these people have the right to tell every woman what she should and should not do with her life? They don't. Somewhere in there is a middle ground but the yelling and screaming on both sides will never find it.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Corndoggies 5/14/2022 10:30:44 PM (No. 1155667)
#1, I recently saw a clip of Paul Begala on Bills show and they were talking about student loan forgiveness. If you really want to blow your mind, look it up on YouTube. It was 2:45 and they were both making a lot of good points. I could barely believe what I was hearing.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 5/14/2022 10:44:02 PM (No. 1155669)
Where's Maher been these past decades? It stopped being safe and rare long, LONG ago. Does the Gosnell trial ring any bells Bill?
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Reply 7 - Posted by: 49 Ford 5/14/2022 10:45:46 PM (No. 1155670)
"Safe, legal and rare" was never more than a politically clever, Clintonesque throwaway line. The 'Rat party has consistently been the Party of Death since the early 1970's.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Omen55 5/14/2022 11:11:20 PM (No. 1155687)
How long before Maher,like Musk,puts out a stick drawing of how dems left him behind?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Timber Queen 5/15/2022 12:05:21 AM (No. 1155706)
The pro abortion/pro choice argument presupposes that pregnancy just happens to women against their will. Getting pregnant is a choice, and that choice is made every time a woman has sex with a man. Using birth control is also a choice, with the caveat that not all methods work all the time. So women have a lot of choices; don't have sex, have unprotected sex, or use a myriad of methods of birth control - of which none are 100% effective 100% of the time. That is just the reality of being a woman. You make your choice when you spread your legs, not when the pregnancy test comes back positive. The child should not pay with its life for a woman's convenience. In regards to the rape argument; the circumstances of conception cannot nullify the new life. The 1970's feminists of NOW, led by Betty Friedan, saw abortion as means to equalize promiscuity between women and men. They believed that legalized abortion was a necessary component for women to have careers competitive with men, along with no-fault divorce. Both of these "milestones" have been disasters for women. Betty Friedan was actually "groomed" into being pro-abortion by a dedicated hedonist named Larry Lader. He was pushing for legalized abortion so men could get off the hook of child support payments. (This part of the story can be found in "Subverted: How I Helped the Sexual Revolution Hijack the Women's Movement" by Sue Ellen Browder. She also tells the story of how Blackmum made his historic Roe decision. A mind blower!) Abortion has also irreparably harmed the relationship between men and women. Not all men want their baby killed, but the father has absolutely no say in the decision - even if the couple are married. Families that may have formed never get a chance to exist. Abortion kills the trust necessary between the sexes to build the families that build our communities. Abortion is murder; murder of the baby, of the souls of those involved, and of our society. We all know that for the last fifty years our culture has been in decline; all the social pathologies unleashed upon us began with legalized abortion.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Catherine 5/15/2022 12:45:26 AM (No. 1155718)
# 9 - I think maybe you've lived a sheltered life for the most part. Visit women in safe houses who lived with abusive men. Stroll through poor neighborhoods where women have little money and usually abusive men in their lives. Then there are the women who do make poor choices but their lives have been guided by how they were raised and their expectations in life are narrow. There are as many sad stories about women having an abortion as there are lives on the planet. Pregnancy is not a choice for millions. When it happens to you, I'm sure you want to right to do what is best for you and your family, never mind those who's health would be in danger.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: paloalto 5/15/2022 1:07:13 AM (No. 1155724)
Safe, legal, and rare. Why rare? "It" is just a cluster of cells, after all, of no greater moral significance than hair or nails, also just clusters of cells. By their own logic, manicures and haircuts should be safe, legal, and rare. I guess at some point they figured out the internal logic problem of their slogan and dropped it. Now they loudly, proudly, and boldly proclaim their love for abortion, which is good in a way -- everyone can see how sick and twisted their little death cult is.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Timber Queen 5/15/2022 1:55:34 AM (No. 1155728)
#10 - Yes, I grew up sheltered with loving parents and two older sisters. We all attended 12 years of Catholic schooling. I graduated in 1972, before Roe but abortion was already legal in California. The airwaves were full of the pro-abortion argument; it was just a clump of cells in the first months, abortion would limit unwanted children and reduce child abuse, it was compassionate care for battered women, it would allow poor women to limit their families and their expenditures, and of course rape where the victim had no choice. I even remember serious speculation that under the reforms of Vatican II the Catholic Church would change their teaching. I heard all this on the TV, on the radio and read it in the Los Angeles Times. We are fifty years in and there are still scores of battered poor women and abused children. All this was in the background as I enjoyed my senior year. Previously I had been socially backward. I never had a date or had gone to any of the big dances. At the end of junior year I, the bookish type, became best friends with a Letter Girl athlete. I met her older brother the March of senior year. He was 20, working and had his own apartment while going to college. I was easy pickings. I was pregnant two months after graduation. He never mentioned marriage, only a "quiet abortion" so we didn't even have to tell our parents. My sheltered life was shaken. Like most women, and men, who participate in abortion I slid into substance abuse and promiscuity. I had two more abortions by the age of 21. During this time, at age 19, I began working as a record clerk for the Los Angeles Police Department - morning watch, Central Division - then housed on the ground floor of the old Parker Center. (I happened to work with Officer Ken Osmond, once known as Eddie Haskell on Leave It To Beaver.) I was introduced to my first transvestite, wife beaters, child abusers, murderers, drunks, drug addicts, prostitutes and common thieves. My sheltered life was shattered. As a result of the abortions I developed severe endometriosis at age 26. I had the first of six surgeries, culminating in a full hysterectomy at age 36. At age 33 I seriously attempted suicide by "walking" off an ocean cliff at Del Mar, CA. Starting at about six inches from the edge, I closed my eyes and began to inch forward. With the roar of the crashing waves filling my ears I whispered, "Its not suicide if its an accident." At that moment a hand jerked me backwards, and when I opened my eyes I was still alone. My knees hit the ground and then my face was in the dirt, and I prayed the most desperate prayer of my life, "If there's a man looking for me, I'm ready to be found." I eventually stumbled home. Two weeks later I received a letter from TK, a former beau I hadn't seen in eight years. He apologized for being a cad and wanted to see me. We were married a year later in a Nuptial Mass. Both cradle Catholics we have returned to our faith, and I look forward to heaven and meeting my three babies; Veronica, Simon and Bridget. I know the toll abortion takes on the parents, and I feel greatly those missing from holiday dinner tables. Abortion is murder. No matter the circumstances in a woman's life they can be overcome without killing their children. For those hurting from participation in abortion I can highly recommend Silent No More and Rachel's Vineyard. They have been helping to restore peace of soul for decades. Pro Life is Pro Woman....and Pro Man...and Pro Families.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: franq 5/15/2022 7:26:44 AM (No. 1155782)
Pray for his salvation. None of us is beyond hope.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: AltaD 5/15/2022 9:20:16 AM (No. 1155900)
Proclaiming you are 'pro-abortion' might not be a winning political slogan but it is honest. The "safe, legal and rare" pitch never made any sense, if there is nothing morally wrong with the procedure, why should it be rare?
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Reply 15 - Posted by: TexaTucky 5/15/2022 9:22:12 AM (No. 1155901)
The only difference between being "pro choice" early in the pregnancy versus late in the pregnancy is the size of the corpse.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: udanja99 5/15/2022 9:31:09 AM (No. 1155910)
Thank you, TQ.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Venturer 5/15/2022 9:36:19 AM (No. 1155917)
Who woke Maher up?
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Reply 18 - Posted by: chillijilli 5/15/2022 10:05:10 AM (No. 1155943)
#12's response was a gentle reminder to me that behind our somewhat anemic Ldotter names, there is an amazing depth of experience and wisdom. We have lots to learn from each other, if we pay attention.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Cynical Backstory 5/15/2022 10:23:02 AM (No. 1155968)
Thank you TQ. I knew you’d had abortion but what a heartrending story. I wish you well. I too have someone in heaven I can’t wait to embrace. After I prostrate myself before my Lord, (and I don’t prostrate myself to anyone), I can’t wait to hug my little 21 month old grandson who died from e-coli, of all things. Heaven is going to be so glorious.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Cynical Backstory 5/15/2022 10:25:39 AM (No. 1155971)
Excuse this second post but whats with Maher? You’d think he’s trying to clean up his act before he’s held accountable for it. Courisier and courisier.
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