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Posted By: ragu, 5/7/2022 1:01:51 AM

May 6 (Reuters) - California energy officials on Friday issued a sober forecast for the state's electrical grid, saying it lacks sufficient capacity to keep the lights on this summer and beyond if heatwaves, wildfires or other extreme events take their toll. The update from leaders from three state agencies and the office of Governor Gavin Newsom comes in response to a string of challenges with the ambitious transition away from fossil fuels, including rolling blackouts during a summer heat wave in 2020. California has among the most aggressive climate change policies in the world, including a goal of producing all

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Reply 1 - Posted by: DEnforcer 5/7/2022 1:25:40 AM (No. 1148723)
So the WSJ and now Reuters say our power grid is unreliable. But we’re all gonna ditch our “petromobiles” and plug in our electric buggies scooting about town with no impact to the grid. Then we congratulate ourselves for being good stewards of the environment. We say trust ”the science,” but ignore Newton’s conservation of energy law. Where does your energy come from? Are we just worshipping the false gods Helios and the Anemoi, who are given to frequent temper tantrums?
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 5/7/2022 1:26:49 AM (No. 1148725)
What, your magic unicorn power plus the windmills and solar panels doesn't cut it? You mean, LIKE WE TOLD YOU it wouldn't work? No sympathy for the leaders, and those who elected them. The folks who voted against this, they get my sympathy. Better have a Generac.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 5/7/2022 1:28:40 AM (No. 1148727)
So, no power and they steal their water from Colorado.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: kono 5/7/2022 1:31:30 AM (No. 1148732)
Build a new power plant, already!
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Reply 5 - Posted by: GoodDeal 5/7/2022 1:40:59 AM (No. 1148736)
Gosh too bad they didn't think about this when they shut down every nuclear electrical generating plant in the state and started pushing solar panels and windmills. We are in for an electrical grid shut down. I just bought and dual fuel electric generator at Home Depot. Just over $800, delivered for free to my home. A buddy came over and helped put it together. Took 30 minutes from opening the box to start up. It can run on gasoline or propane. I got a Rino propane tank and after putting the wheels and stuff on it, filling the engine with oil that came with it, we fired it up and ran it for about 10 minutes to do a quick engine break-in. So I am all prepared. I am picking up a couple of new extension cords to go with the ones I have, so this summer when the power goes out, I can run my refrigerator and some other appliances no problem. Oh Newsome will be running for president. So remember this.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Nexus-1 5/7/2022 3:34:24 AM (No. 1148763)
...Yup, time to move.......
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Trigger2 5/7/2022 3:39:49 AM (No. 1148765)
I'd say that stupid CA policies are coming home to roost. Isn't it great to be "woke"?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: mifla 5/7/2022 3:51:27 AM (No. 1148772)
How's that green energy policy working out for you on the left coast?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: anniebc 5/7/2022 5:05:40 AM (No. 1148800)
Uh. . . we can't help you; you idiots did this to yourselves.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Rich323 5/7/2022 5:36:09 AM (No. 1148820)
Import more electricity from China!
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Quigley 5/7/2022 5:45:04 AM (No. 1148825)
Well one easy solution which has broad support would be to forbid the use of petroleum in caliphornia.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Jethro bo 5/7/2022 6:08:13 AM (No. 1148833)
You mean the Central Planners in Californistan missed? And now there will be increase prices and shortages? Didn't Ayn Rand write a novel similar to this?
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Reply 13 - Posted by: ByteGuru 5/7/2022 6:31:59 AM (No. 1148843)
Remember when discussing the stupidity of CAs energy policies that a part of that policy is that CA forbids any truck that was made before 2010 to operate in CA. Many of those trucks were being used to unload container ships and distribute those containers across the USA. So CA is largely responsible for the shortage of goods on merchant shelves all across the USA.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: BarryNo 5/7/2022 6:35:01 AM (No. 1148845)
California can go dwn the drain. Over the years, they've refused to udate their power grid and their water infrastructure in the name of going green. Instead they've bought power from out of state sources who don't follow the "Green Dogma". They've stolen water resources from farmers who actually do something useful with it. Their elites don't seem to be suffering. Mansions, swimming pools, airconditioning, jets, yahts... Let them go down the drain. Once their gone, maybe something worthwhile will grow in their place.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Samsquanch 5/7/2022 6:49:52 AM (No. 1148857)
Gov Hairdo created this mess, soon he'll try to bring it to the national stage. Prez Scarecrow has already got it set-up for him.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: varkdriver 5/7/2022 6:56:14 AM (No. 1148861)
Say it with me, kids: "UNEXPECTEDLY!" Simple physics. You can't make chicken salad from chicken droppings.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: ROLFNader 5/7/2022 7:35:50 AM (No. 1148888)
Good idea with the multi-fuel purchase. Not sure but I believe you can run that on natural gas, as well. I'm getting ready to convert mine ,too. Not sure if NG is any less expensive to run but I won't miss having to store gasoline.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: hershey 5/7/2022 7:55:07 AM (No. 1148900)
Some years ago our rural electric co op offered Generac 20KW home generators that automatically kick in when the power feed goes down, as it does pretty regularly in the country with storms and snow, and it runs on propane. Best investment I have made in a long time...gave up on the tiny 'roll it out of the garage' gennie and running cords into the house through open windows. But, propane, last fill, was $3.41 a gallon....:0(
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Sorosisbehindit 5/7/2022 8:04:16 AM (No. 1148916)
When will Cali voters really get woke?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: philsner 5/7/2022 8:05:50 AM (No. 1148919)
Who knew?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: franq 5/7/2022 8:07:31 AM (No. 1148923)
Well, California needs to close down more power stations, and dynamite the hydroelectric dams so the salmon can live free. That will solve the crisis. Oh, and force all citizens to buy EVs...
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Reply 22 - Posted by: red1066 5/7/2022 8:12:07 AM (No. 1148928)
First no water, now no power. No wonder people are leaving California in record numbers.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: hoosierblue 5/7/2022 8:18:11 AM (No. 1148939)
Don't forget to buy your electric car.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Cyaindasun 5/7/2022 8:27:09 AM (No. 1148944)
My guess is that the wealthy neighborhoods and elites will have plenty. The regular and poorer communities will have very little.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: NorthernDog 5/7/2022 8:50:59 AM (No. 1148956)
They will eventually end up burning dark black bituminous coal to keep the lights on. It's cheap and it's plentiful, which in the long run wins out.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: bpl40 5/7/2022 9:14:00 AM (No. 1148977)
Fairy dust and moon beams are not enough?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: LadyVet 5/7/2022 9:20:35 AM (No. 1148983)
I read that plans for a desalination plant was also rejected. More woke wisdom.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Axeman 5/7/2022 9:27:00 AM (No. 1148993)
My house prpduces more energy than it used but this is a tiny amount compared to any office or store. Single manufacturing machines can use a lot more than a home.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Californian 5/7/2022 9:37:03 AM (No. 1149001)
Sold my place, waiting for escrow to close, then buying plane tickets out. I am going to watch the state fall apart over the coming years from the other side of the country. And get a good laugh out of it. Yes our elections are corrupt but the Marxist trash would easily win clean elections here anyway. The majority here deserves to get what they voted for. Everyone else should leave. Last conservative, turn out the lights as you go. They'll probably be off anyway.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: moebellini3 5/7/2022 9:45:10 AM (No. 1149010)
Good luck charging that electric car. The outright stupidity of these people is appalling. These people couldn't run a lemonade stand but they sure as hell know how to steal your money. Got it...
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Reply 31 - Posted by: bigfatslob 5/7/2022 9:56:38 AM (No. 1149028)
It's horrible when you cut off your foot by choice and find out you need it later to run. Dam the rivers, don't cut the trees and close the nuclear plants then go begging for water, electricity and fight raging wildfires someone is being stupid.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: mindsport 5/7/2022 10:30:04 AM (No. 1149053)
And they are outlawing natural gas appliances, and new home construction with natural gas. California grows a significant, like 80%, of the US fresh food supply. They are suffering from a drought! Their mismanagement of their water supply, by tearing down dams, will result in food shortages around the globe. The Feds need to step in.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Anti_democRAT 5/7/2022 11:13:07 AM (No. 1149117)
Ha, karma
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Reply 34 - Posted by: joew9 5/7/2022 11:36:22 AM (No. 1149140)
CA doesn't have enough water after more than half a century of prohibiting the development of water reservoirs. Now CA doesn't have enough electricity after several decades to prohibiting power plants. 25 years ago an Arizona power company was going to build a plant right on the CA border for the purpose of shipping all that power into CA and avoiding the extreme CA regulations. I remember Arizona lawmakers at the time proposed a law to prevent plants from being built that didn't primarily serve Arizona. I never heard what came of all that. The proposals at the time were going to result in a string of power plants on the Arizona/CA border built only to serve CA.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 5/7/2022 1:13:13 PM (No. 1149233)
If CA hadn't cut off so much water to farmers in the Central Valley, they could be growing windmills and solar panel as we speak.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: formerNYer 5/7/2022 1:17:36 PM (No. 1149239)
Maybe it’s all those electric vehicles that are taxing the grid. Stupid liberals.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: IAmButASimpleCaveman 5/7/2022 1:37:57 PM (No. 1149256)
my best guess is that this forecast was developed prior to roseanna arguette's forecast that millions of women would be leaving the us, and presumably cali, so it won't be that bad.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: navybrat 5/7/2022 1:44:51 PM (No. 1149264)
How are they going to charge all of those electric cars if they can't even keep the lights on?
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Reply 39 - Posted by: Bambihunter 5/8/2022 9:54:08 AM (No. 1149841)
"Life is tough, but it is even tougher when you're stupid."
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Reply 40 - Posted by: MickTurn 5/8/2022 10:56:48 AM (No. 1149902)
Self inflicted problems always fail...get used to it Californication.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: Faithfully 5/8/2022 9:38:10 PM (No. 1150277)
#2 The windmills weren't for energy but for the companies who made billions erecting them, not to mention the kickbacks to the politicians who okayed the silly plan. RIP millions of birds killed by the blades.
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