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Navy FIRES all three leaders of Seabees
battalion 'due to a loss of confidence
in their abilities to effectively perform
their leadership roles'

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Posted By: Ribicon, 2/7/2022 10:25:00 PM

The US Navy has relieved a triad command team of its duties, citing 'a loss of confidence' in the leaders' abilities but refusing to elaborate on the circumstances that led to the dismissals. Commanding officer Captain Jeffrey Lengkeek—a Stanford-trained civil engineer who joined the Navy's civil engineer corps in 1996—was among the unit leaders let go February 3. Also fired were executive officer Commander Michael Jarosz, and Commander Master Chief Matthew Turner. The men led the Amphibious Construction Battalion 2 in Little Creek, Virginia and played 'a major role in maritime prepositioning force operations,' according to a press release. The shakeup will have no impact on the mission


What's the mission of the US Navy? Pushing Gay Pride? Letting ships catch fire and become unsalvageable wrecks, crashing ships and submarines, botching F-35 landings and losing the aircraft in the sea for China to retrieve?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Corndoggies 2/7/2022 10:34:50 PM (No. 1064973)
I’ve got another “leader” in mind we’d all like to relieve of command.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: DVC 2/7/2022 10:59:02 PM (No. 1064985)
Probably were known to be patriots who revere the Constitution. Those kind are dangerous to the top leadership in the military today.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Ruhn 2/7/2022 11:07:12 PM (No. 1064996)
Its not uncommon for the Navy to relieve commanders (especially ship captains) for loss of confidence or for cause. Usually the command via their PAO, will issue a statement about the 5Ws. When the ‘why’ is conspicuously missing, that’s the ‘tell’ that there is some potentially embarrassing or explosive information involving the chain of command. Events like these practically beg Congressional inquiry.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Birddog 2/7/2022 11:14:59 PM (No. 1064999)
Uhmmm...didn't Biden or Harris do a photo op visit to the seabee base or some such thing for a Holiday? Thanksgiving wasn't it? Maybe Christmas? Or was it having the seabees out to their "Borrowed" Mansion vacay spot at the shore? Did they wear MAGA Hats or say Lets go Brandon perhaps? Maybe posted something on social media? Maybe said something derogatory to a junior officer that then got "Fed up the chain"?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Birddog 2/7/2022 11:23:01 PM (No. 1065006)
OH...or maybe these guys did a Holiday at Mar a Lago? Trump has done a LOT of stuff with the seabees,..and often let them use the golf course.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: PostAway 2/7/2022 11:36:59 PM (No. 1065011)
They’re all male and have surnames originating in Christian countries and work in a field (engineering) dominated by Caucasians and Asians including Muslims and the Chinese but all three are White. Each was in the Navy before homosexuality became acceptable which suggests they are straight. Perhaps these are clues …. We’ll have to see who replaces them.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: PChristopher 2/8/2022 12:06:40 AM (No. 1065025)
Note they're all white males....wanna bet who their replacements will be?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: brownshoepogue 2/8/2022 1:45:21 AM (No. 1065060)
Loss of confidence resulting in Relief for Cause usually has to do with PMS...Power and/or Money and/or Sex. People in positions of authority who abuse their power, or who defraud their country, or sexually abuse the very people entrusted to them deserve their fate. A CO who avoids the temptation of PMS will usually enjoy the pomp, fanfare, music and final remarks at his/her outgoing change of command.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Trigger2 2/8/2022 4:45:37 AM (No. 1065134)
What did they actually do? Speak bad of Joey, which is an automatic firing offense?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: ussjimmycarter 2/8/2022 5:08:25 AM (No. 1065141)
“Rum, Sodomy and the Lash” Winston Churchill’s description of the Navy !
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Rumblehog 2/8/2022 5:31:02 AM (No. 1065153)
They each failed Pronouns 101.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Strike3 2/8/2022 7:13:28 AM (No. 1065201)
Something fishy going on. Hopefully there will be more information forthcoming. I'm confused, how can one be a Commander and a Master Chief at the same time? One is an O3 officer and the other is an enlisted rating of E9. They sound well-qualified so I agree with posters, they somehow broke the new woke rules.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 2/8/2022 7:24:23 AM (No. 1065215)
Given the state of the pentagon, these guys could be idiots or they could think men are men and women are women.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: bigfatslob 2/8/2022 7:43:56 AM (No. 1065232)
Probably conservative Trump supporters or talked bad about the Vegetable in Chief, Brandon. MAGA
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Reply 15 - Posted by: lakerman1 2/8/2022 7:46:23 AM (No. 1065235)
Were they anti-tranny? Anti-gay? Did they use the wrong pronouns?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Clinger 2/8/2022 7:55:31 AM (No. 1065244)
'due to a loss of confidence in their abilities to effectively perform their leadership roles' In my personal professional experience those very words almost to an exact quote have been used as secret code for replacing leaders for no reason whatsoever related to measurable performance against documented goals and objectives, but rather for pure political good old boy reshuffling to place buddies in leadership roles, the corporate political alignment.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: skacmar 2/8/2022 8:11:52 AM (No. 1065263)
Sounds like someone wants to replace 3 straight white males with 3 diversity hires to have a "Navy reflective of the diversity and strength of America". How about a gay White male, Hispanic male, and Black female. Sure, they might not be the best, most experienced, but the SeaBees will have more equitable inclusive leadership.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: AltaD 2/8/2022 8:23:00 AM (No. 1065282)
"Loss of confidence" sounds a bit like the old Hollywood code "creative differences" -- we don't like them, we want 'our kind' in the job, so we're inventing a reason to remove them.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Ebenezer 2/8/2022 9:20:30 AM (No. 1065340)
the ignorance of "journalists" reporting on the US military is astounding. First of all, it's "command master chief", not "commander master chief". Also, the man they identified in the photo as the "commander master chief" is wearing the uniform of a commissioned officer. Command master chiefs are non-commissioned officers. As an aside, these guys are wearing a lot of fruit salad for being incompetent.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: HaraldBluetooth 2/8/2022 9:42:00 AM (No. 1065366)
Might have to do with the SW Pacific corruption scandal, $$ for intel on ship schedules, resupply contracts, etc.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: gop_guys 2/8/2022 10:05:07 AM (No. 1065390)
Wouldn’t take the clot shot, most likely.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Zigrid 2/8/2022 10:11:02 AM (No. 1065399)
Well... this is interesting...the pentagon is trying to eliminate sturdy American military men who have love of country on their agenda...perhaps milk toast general milley could be fired and removed from duty...let him stand in front of a mirror and complain about his "whiteness"...that should scare our took Canadian truckers to ignite our love of freedom...nothing Washington's establishment can do will shut US down...WE are out here and will not be moved from our position.... MAGA...
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Reply 23 - Posted by: bighambone 2/8/2022 10:47:04 AM (No. 1065464)
No sweat, the Biden crew will replace the relieved officers with a new command structure that looks more like modern America.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Ida Lou Pino 2/8/2022 11:21:56 AM (No. 1065510)
Response to OP - - YES!
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Ladylonglegs 2/8/2022 11:29:33 AM (No. 1065519)
Can only imagine why these three gentlemen were summarily fired. They refused to impose the fake vaxx shots on their troops? That seems likely. The US Navy Seabees are a group that builds things, massive construction projects. The article itself manages to mislabel one of these three Naval officers correctly. Commander Master Chief? What's that? Probably a Mustang/LDO (Limited Duty Officer). All in all a feeble attempt to make it mysterious..
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Reply 26 - Posted by: MickTurn 2/8/2022 11:51:46 AM (No. 1065560)
The Military's Job is to Blow up Stuff and KILL the Enemy, Not run around in Pink TUTU's!
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Reply 27 - Posted by: stablemoney 2/8/2022 12:24:22 PM (No. 1065602)
I don't have any confidence in the leadership of the Navy. I suggest they fire themselves.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: Geoman 2/8/2022 12:57:27 PM (No. 1065646)
When writing about the Navy, if the author makes a huge, blatant error in identifying ranks, then nothing in the article can be fully trusted. As some posters have noted, there is no such thing as a Commander Master Chief, which combines the most senior enlisted rank with a field grade officer rank. A Navy Master Chief rank insignia are chevrons and inverted rockers worn on the left sleeve, along with a rating insignia, which indicates occupational specialty. The pictures of the two commissioned officers below the larger pic of the Captain, whose rank is not seen in the photo, are both Commanders (O-5). No Master Chief rank is shown; however, there is another inconsistency. The Commander wearing his dress blue uniform on the pic on the left is shown with a sleeve device that appears to be indicative of the Civil Engineering Corps, appropriate for the Seabees. The other commander, in tropical whites, has a gold five pointed star on his shoulder board, indicating he is an unrestricted line officer, meaning he can command a warship, whereas a civil engineer is a service corps officer and can only command within his speciality, similar to doctors, nurses, chaplains, lawyers, and supply corps officers. In addition, the officer in whites, misidentified as Commander Master Chief Turner, appears to be wearing a breast device, just above his ribbons, that looks to be that of a naval aviator in a stock wardroom photo with other senior officers at the table. The two officers in their blues are wearing Seabee breast devices, so they may be who the article says they are. Commander Jarosz, in his blue uniform, is also wearing a diver breast device below his ribbons, which is rare for a commissioned officer, as they don't perform hard-hat diving but such is fairly common among enlisted Seabees. An officer wearing that insignia typically indicates he is a "mustang" or former enlisted who rose to the commissioned officer ranks. Mustangs typically top out at 0-5 but there are exceptions for the exceptional and/or politically connected. There is a lot to the story that the article doesn't explain but is implied by the pictures. It's doubtful if the truth of the matter will ever come out, as it likely is based on "diversity and inclusion," the new watch words for federal service of any kind.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: Birddog 2/8/2022 1:26:23 PM (No. 1065693)
RE: Fruit Salad Do these sailors have more or less than a Vindeman? What is the comparative degree of "Confidence in Competence" between any of them and a Vindeman?
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Reply 30 - Posted by: Talk2 2/8/2022 1:34:11 PM (No. 1065713)
You know what they say about the Navy - 250 years of tradition unhampered by progress.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Lawsy0 2/8/2022 2:33:59 PM (No. 1065767)
The USN isn't talking about the whys and the wherefores of the firings. I understand that. Fired means more when it is a commissioned officer than it does for enlisted personnel. That the mission won't be compromised is probably a big joke to all the insiders. That said, the Commander-in-Chief should have been ''fired'' as well. {And also, WTP probably learned way TMI about Operation Tailhook.}
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Reply 32 - Posted by: danu 2/8/2022 8:33:32 PM (No. 1066107)
this is grotesque. men like these, w/ skills and experience like theirs, do not grow on trees. if they are being pushed out and replaced w/ political hires for pc reasons, to perform heavy construction projects... we're looking at very high risks of very bad accidents,,, just waiting to happen.
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