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Posted By: NorthernDog, 2/4/2022 8:54:29 AM

Americans are buying more electric vehicles every year. In a recent column, we discussed the installation of a charging station all condo owners could use. That struck a nerve with some regular readers who are condominium association board managers or owners. We wrote about locating electric vehicle car chargers in the common areas of an association and how the owners might want to handle the cost of the installation and the electricity they consume. Here are a few comments we received: Comment: Your advice for condos to accommodate owners with the need to charge their electric cars by requiring owners


Who ends up paying for all that electricity? And what happens if the lights go out?

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Reply 1 - Posted by: planetgeo 2/4/2022 9:05:00 AM (No. 1061080)
As a Board Member, I managed to address and dispose of this issue by coming up with the following plan: the association will pay for and put up high-capacity chargers for electric vehicle owners when the vehicle owners agree to pay for a gas station for the gas vehicle owners,
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Rand Al'Thor 2/4/2022 9:24:13 AM (No. 1061103)
This article sure makes me feel better that I have not, nor will I ever, buy an electric car.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: WhamDBambam 2/4/2022 9:34:24 AM (No. 1061119)
This is what you get when you ignore or are not given basic science in you education.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: rikkitikki 2/4/2022 9:34:42 AM (No. 1061120)
Aside from such insurmountable issues as sufficient charging stations in Condo garages, also consider: 1. there is not enough lithium/nickel/cobalt available in today's mines to create the huge number of batteries needed to replace every gasoline engine with an electric one. 2. since there is not even close to enough real estate next to every commercial gas station or municipal charging station in urban areas to park all the customers who need an 8-hour charge, such logistics will demand that owners of electric cars charge them at home. 3. Since point#2 will limit its users to a 300-mile round trip, most owners of electric cars will elect to keep their gasoline cars for longer trips. 4. regarding the electricity demand to charge all of those batteries, hydroelectric is maxed out, wind power cannot possibly meet the ultimate demand, the manufacture of "blue hydrogen" creates more CO2 than it conserves, and solar would require that a surface area the size of California be wholly dedicated to solar cell farms....not possible, even if you could manufacture enough solar cells. 4. the entire push for electric cars is predicated on the biggest govt lie to ever come down the pike...that AGW is causing global warming. Until its advocates can explain the cyclical nature of the past 20 ice ages, then they can't explain why the current warming is not just a continuation of the last interglacial warming period. Looks to me like the crazy official response to Covid19 was not the first incidence of mass formation psychosis in America...
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna 2/4/2022 9:35:46 AM (No. 1061122)
It will require hundreds of 4th generation easy and safe nuclear power plants to even have the electricity available that will be required if this goes nationwide. And that doesn't even address the weakness of the grid.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: seamusm 2/4/2022 9:41:13 AM (No. 1061130)
The average EV battery weighs 1000 lbs. Somehow, I don't think anyone will be rolling that into their apartment/condo every night. Yet another stupid idea from a Kool Aid drinker.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: red1066 2/4/2022 9:47:17 AM (No. 1061142)
At Johns Hopkins Hospital, there is a large five story parking garage. On the lower level of the garage are about 12 to 15 parking spaces for electric vehicles with plugs to charge your car. In order to be able to charge your vehicle, the driver must swipe a credit card to pay for the use of the charger. Right now, we're in the same situation people had over a hundred years ago when cars first came on the scene. It took decades to build gas stations so people with these new contraptions could travel and buy gas. The problem with electric vehicles is that one can't just pull up to a pump and be on their way in a matter of minutes. Until that issue is solved, infrastructure for electric vehicles will remain like the owner of a car in 1915.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: PChristopher 2/4/2022 9:55:23 AM (No. 1061156)
Why should residents who don't have and/or can't afford EV's foot the bill for EV owners? It's supremely arrogant of EV owners to think that they should! I know I would be livid if my association even toyed with the idea!
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Reply 9 - Posted by: downnout 2/4/2022 10:09:42 AM (No. 1061184)
Brilliant, #1!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: felixcat 2/4/2022 10:28:51 AM (No. 1061212)
I live outside Northern Virginia but when I do travel into Carry Dem/Lefty Land, I have noticed at several shopping centers, Free charging stations for EVs. SO why am I paying for my gasoline and some guppy yuppie Libtard gets it's electricity for free?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: FLCracker 2/4/2022 10:32:34 AM (No. 1061221)
You sit down in one of those things and you'll never stand again. Extrapolating advice from my grandma who had terrible arthritis in her feet, but walked miles virtually every day. She said, "you have to keep moving."
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Hazymac 2/4/2022 10:44:55 AM (No. 1061240)
#4 is absolutely correct. The planned wholesale conversion of most of the transportation fleet to electric is not only not a realistic goal--it's pernicious. Restricting the movement of the population is one of the Left's long term goals, and getting rid of gasoline and diesel engine transportation soon after 2030 is already cooked into their plans. Those plans need to be reversed. The administration's anti-energy policies rise far above the Himalayan summits of high human stupidity. You'd almost be tempted think an anti-American enemy is running the government, making all the "right" wrong decisions. On his own, Xi couldn't do any better. America's electric grid doesn't produce nearly enough power to keep one hundred million (plus) e-vehicles running. I don't know of any apartment or condominium in Florida that could accommodate a fleet of these things, which, after all, are useless for trips longer than 300 miles, usually less than that. Both wind and solar installations have limited life spans, 15 years is about it, and the solar panels, most of which are manufactured in China, are not recyclable. Neither are the enormous windmill structures that will need the world's largest landfills--and diesel powered trucks!--for disposal in some unfavored place.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: DVC 2/4/2022 11:00:44 AM (No. 1061272)
Tell these electric car pukes to get a real car and stop bothering people for expensive, unnecessary amenities. If they want a charger....have them pay ALL the costs for the charger themselves. They are just freeloaders.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: MickTurn 2/4/2022 11:02:17 AM (No. 1061276)
Put in 1 charging station so they can all get nasty over who uses it...fitting punishment!
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Reply 15 - Posted by: mc squared 2/4/2022 11:13:29 AM (No. 1061308)
I don't suppose the association had charging stations when they BOUGHT the E-car, Do they even know the installation of these things will be rolled into their maintenance fees? Whinny asshats.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: slipstik 2/4/2022 11:15:47 AM (No. 1061312)
I think every owner of an electric car gets an exercise bike hooked up to a generator so they can charge their batteries anywhere, anytime, on their own. Forget all this grade 1, grade 2, free, costly, charging station hoopla. No need for grid updates. The car owner is his/her own grid.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: snowoutlaw 2/4/2022 11:58:22 AM (No. 1061365)
Just park an industrial generator in the lot and hook it to some pay to play charging stations. The prices include the cost of the generation and a hourly rental fee for being hooked up so people move their cars when charged.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: privateer 2/4/2022 12:07:42 PM (No. 1061377)
FTA: 'since our enclosed parking lot cannot accommodate an electric plug for every owner. I’m hoping that the solution will be the improvement in technology that will enable each car owner to remove the battery and charge it in their own unit.' And where will each resident park their forklift, needed to haul the battery from car to unit and back? And how will the forklifts be powered? Propane? More electric charging stations?
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Reply 19 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 2/4/2022 12:17:48 PM (No. 1061393)
This reminds me of people who buy a house next to the airport, then complain about the noise.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: earlybird 2/4/2022 12:27:32 PM (No. 1061403)
With all respect to poster, one of the most intrepid on the site, this is a really dumb “article”, typical of the supposedly helpful articles that newspapers across the country offer. The Replies on this thread are far more interesting than the “article”… When we left Pasadena after a doctor appointment the other afternoon, we saw fools standing-walking about at the City-owned charging station in the southern part of the city. We, on the other hand, were heading out for a nice drive to our city, several miles away. Our engine happily combusting...
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Reply 21 - Posted by: DVC 2/4/2022 12:29:50 PM (No. 1061410)
Apparently, #18, these uninformed folks imagine the car's battery to be something like the starting battery in their REAL car. Those starting batteries weigh enough that most women have difficulty moving them. And, of course, the weight of those EV batteries is very much more than one person can move without a lift or something. Here's the REAL "killer"....literally. The EV or hybrid batteries that I am familiar with have voltages up in the 384-400 volt range. THAT will kill you instantly if you touch the terminals. Bright flash, and you are dead as a hammer. I discussed working on hybrids with a Toyota mechanic a few years ago. He said, "We can't touch those cars (Prius) until the one guy in our shop who is trained on the batteries comes and makes the system safe by removing the battery from the system." I assume not physically removing, but disconnection of the wiring to the battery and covering the terminals to "safe" it. But maybe it is physically remove the battery, I don't know how difficult that is on a Prius. Amateurs playing with EV batteries....eventually we will be reading about someone getting electrocuted with these high voltage batteries. Your 12 volt gas car starting battery is safe, can't hurt you. These EV batteries - NOT safe, don't mess with them.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: bad-hair 2/4/2022 12:33:48 PM (No. 1061416)
Ultimately this will have to come down to exchanging battery packs. Drop of a dead one replace it with a full one all within 5 minutes and carry on. Old ones are charged and cycled back. Even that has a point of no return. Electric flying taxis, forget it. When they break down they're going to land on somebody's electric car.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: bamboozle 2/4/2022 12:35:53 PM (No. 1061418)
Wait until the EV of one of these virtue signalers catches fire while charging and takes down the entire condo. Typical magical thinking by the newly woke. Buy it and the power stations will magically appear.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: doctorfixit 2/4/2022 3:42:15 PM (No. 1061541)
Other than a parking spot, no accommodation is justified. They don't give me fuel for my vehicle. You want electric you're on your own.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: earlybird 2/4/2022 5:33:44 PM (No. 1061625)
Re EV batteries, it seems there is quiet concern about how and where those monster batteries will be disposed of…
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Kumoan 2/4/2022 10:33:40 PM (No. 1061886)
So what happens to the grid when every yuppy plugs in at 6pm? Those windmills better be turning about 5,000 RPM.
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