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Man Uses His Second Amendment Rights After
His Neighbors Pitbull Came Running Towards
Him In His Front Yard – Was This Justified? (Video)

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Posted By: Black Conservative Voice, 1/29/2022 2:29:30 PM

Guns, guns, and more guns. These days the complexity of gun ownership in this country is just that, complex. To me, the Second Amendment is pretty straightforward. The question I have is when is it appropriate to get the gun out? When is the right time? Is it the right time to shoot a dog during a dog fight, or if a dog attacks you? A video from Oregon today shows a man who guns down his neighbors’ pitbull after it came running towards him in his front yard.


Precedent dictates a dog charging towards you while still being a few feet away is enough to meet this standard. Any jurisdiction can have a different outcome but case law is still case law. Also, the law holds human life more valuable than any given dog's life. Unfortunately in many localities, discharge of a weapon for any reason is unlawful and they will arrest you. You have to prove that you had no other choice but to shoot, and depending on the DA that could be in court. They would love to make an example of someone. If you carry at all I would recommend one of the concealed carry insurances like USCCA (there are many out there but only like 2 or 3 good ones).

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Reply 1 - Posted by: clayusmcret 1/29/2022 2:37:43 PM (No. 1055005)
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Reply 2 - Posted by: zephyrgirl 1/29/2022 2:40:02 PM (No. 1055006)
I say "when in doubt, shoot." There's a story in the Daily Mail about a 22-year old woman who was petsitting two dogs (german shepard and a pit bull). They attacked her and tore off her ears, nose and most of the lower part of her face. She's permanently disfigured.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: MaMe2 1/29/2022 2:42:25 PM (No. 1055008)
Having my dog mauled and practically decapitated by two pit bulls... I wish I had a gun.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Dignitary Protection 1/29/2022 3:04:12 PM (No. 1055017)
As the original poster stated, I have specific insurance for just that reason. Mine is U.S. Law Shield.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Californian 1/29/2022 3:05:41 PM (No. 1055018)
I've been there, too. Got lucky my dog was super fluffy (chow mix) so the pit kept missing his throat until the dog was dragged away by its stupid owner. If I was armed I would've dropped it on the spot.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 1/29/2022 3:24:23 PM (No. 1055027)
I love dogs, and do not fear them, generally. I am armed, but I doubt that I would shoot a dog unless it had actually bitten me, or was biting me. Have the gun out, and use my non-shooting forearm to defend myself initially. If it became necessary, I have no problem with killing the dog, but I would be very sad if I had the slightest doubt that the dog was going to do more than threaten or nip. I would not have shot at that point, I am fairly sure.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 1/29/2022 3:26:45 PM (No. 1055030)
The owners of these brutes always tell you "Why, that can't be, Fluffy is as gentle as a lamb!" (The throat rippers often have names like Fluffy.)
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Philipsonh 1/29/2022 3:30:49 PM (No. 1055037)
My wife was atacked by a pitbull in the bottom landing of a stairway to an upper apt where her girl friend's son lived. She had heavy winter clothes on and her arm was still marked. Luckily the owner got the dog quickly, or she would have been mauled. The dog was a menace. My wife was expected to arrive , but the dog was loose. If an owner cannot keep a dangerous animal under control, then whatever happens is just too bad. 'Animal Planet ' displays pitbulls as friendly, loving dogs, but they are not all that way, depending on the owner.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: earlybird 1/29/2022 3:36:14 PM (No. 1055044)
Pit bulls do not nip. Their oversized jaws allow them to do serious damage in just one pass. I cannot imagine waiting for one to “nip” me.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Ragman73 1/29/2022 3:38:35 PM (No. 1055052)
Hate to see any animal suffer. But a dog attack can be horrible. I guess my question is with the hundreds of breds available why do you see so many pitbulls? The owners are the problem. This animal was clearly aggressive, off line without a suitable fence between the yards. Sooner or later a child would have been bittened, mauled, or chased into traffic. This was your classic "accident waiting to happen".
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Reply 11 - Posted by: whyyeseyec 1/29/2022 3:49:58 PM (No. 1055060)
@#6 - When a pitbull bites down on your forearm, the pain will be excruciating and while it is flailing around, it may bite you elsewhere. You will not be clear headed during the attack and might just end up shooting yourself in the arm, leg or elsewhere. In fact, a bullet may go astray and hit someone else. Better to shoot the dog before it attacks.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Roscoelewis 1/29/2022 3:54:06 PM (No. 1055068)
...same as being randomly attacked by one of those melaninated Ubangis on the street
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Reply 13 - Posted by: 3XALADY 1/29/2022 4:02:17 PM (No. 1055074)
I have never had a pitbull and from reports I've seen over the years, I wonder why they are not outlawed. I notice in our local paper the dogs looking for homes all have some pit in them.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: HPmatt 1/29/2022 4:11:44 PM (No. 1055080)
Dogs only worth cost - say $200. Pepper spray works too.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: obdurate 1/29/2022 4:28:36 PM (No. 1055090)
Good Shooting
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Sandpiper 1/29/2022 4:30:09 PM (No. 1055092)
I have heard many, many defenses of pit bulls as being loving sweet family dogs with an undeserved reputation. OK, fine. However, I cannot un-see the pit bull PUPPY who attacked a local cat. The cat was in it’s mouth and the dog’s owner could not get his dog to let go. The owner even used a 2x4 to beat his dog to stop it - it did no good. I listened to that cat die. It was very sad. The breed may be sweet, but if they turn they can be killers.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: RuckusTom 1/29/2022 4:43:28 PM (No. 1055105)
A lady used to walk her rottweiler, unleashed, on walks around the neighborhood where I walked my dogs. He was probably the best trained dog I'd ever come across. He stayed by her side and never seemed interested in other dogs, squirrels, people, cars, etc.. One day, she was walking her son's dog (a different dog) unleashed who she thought was "well trained" as well. That dog snapped and nearly killed by little Rat Terrier - he was like a shark zeroed in on my dog. In another incident, a neighbor of mine half a block down the street had a dog come charging at my dogs as I was getting ready to walk them. I took a very aggressive stance towards the dog after the Rat Terrier incident. The owner couldn't understand why I was carrying on so aggressively since his dog "wouldn't hurt a fly". In some rather flamboyant language I told the guy to keep his dog "that wouldn't hurt a fly" on a leash - when not in the house or in the fenced back yard. Anyway, I don't trust any unleashed dogs that come charging towards me or mine - friendly other otherwise and I don't see any reason why someone can't defend themselves to avoid being attacked, in this case, their own friggin yard.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: granny5 1/29/2022 4:46:18 PM (No. 1055108)
If I would've had a gun when a pit bull came at me and attacked my dog, I would've used it. As it was, I didn't have the stun gun that I usually carried with me that day either -- the one time I needed it. I'll never make that mistake again.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Sully 1/29/2022 4:49:47 PM (No. 1055111)
I have known pits that were stone cold killers. I have known some that were mush balls. If it is a neighbor's dog, I need to befriend them, the younger the better. If you befriend a puppy, he will be OK w/you for life. You're better off making friends w/you neighbor and his dog, IF POSSIBLE. That dog did seem to be making a beeline for the shooter. I had to enlarge the vid and slow it down to see that. When in doubt, the human wins out.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: MDConservative 1/29/2022 4:55:19 PM (No. 1055113)
Everyone wants to shoot a dog or a person with the least provocation...2A tough guys. Full auto all the time. Kid steps on my lawn with the No Trespassing sign...he deserves some lead. There's no context to the video. One doesn't know whether the dog was "attacking" this guy. It begs the question, why is he on his front lawn with a firearm facing an aggressive dog to begin with? (He had no obligation to retreat...) And what was he doing with the dog prior to plugging it? If the gunner didn't know the (censored) dog, well, I don't know the (censored) shooter, either. Maybe the shooting was justified. Maybe it wasn't. None of us know the details from the story or the video. Maybe the guy is just the neighborhood jerk and lured the dog onto his property to shoot it because he didn't like it or his neighbor. The automatic presumption for many was the PITBULL had to be the aggressor. My daughter and son have owned pits. They are what they are trained to do - many owned by knuckleheads trying to prove THEY have the biggest testicles on the block. 2A rights come with responsibilities, as does dog ownership. I know enough of these "neighbors" to know some just have that itch...any excuse will do, pull the gun or sic the dog. Being "justified" doesn't make it right, either way.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: franq 1/29/2022 4:59:44 PM (No. 1055114)
I hate pit bulls. 99% of them are nothing more than swag, to bolster the owners ego.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: LadyHen 1/29/2022 5:12:07 PM (No. 1055126)
My husband has been attacked by German Shephards twice (once requiring stitches), my 4 year old daughter (while she was seated and secured in her stroller) was lunged at a snarling what looked to be Maltese, and my niece was facially disfigured by a pure bred Golden Retriever when she was 5. And how many nasty little ankle biters have you known? While some dogs are just ill tempered brutes, by in large my rule is "bad owner = bad dog" and that goes for literally any breed. If you don't have time, money, and energy enough to care for and discipline a dog correctly, for the love of Pete, don't get a dog!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Highlander 1/29/2022 5:21:48 PM (No. 1055132)
The dog was snarling and growling as it ran at the neighbor. Translate for Doggy-Speak: Snarling and growling means “I ain’t your friend, dude !” The pit owner should pay the replacement cost of the ammo. That would be a neighborly thing to do.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Hazymac 1/29/2022 5:25:21 PM (No. 1055138)
Various breeds and mixes of large, aggressive dogs would have no particular problem mauling to death an unarmed adult human being. The dog owner in "One Bite Rule" states--or, more precisely, the dog--gets one free bite except in the worst circumstances, before becoming a marked dog. Or something like that. Dog bite laws vary from state to state. In this particular instance the dog attacked a neighbor in the neighbor's yard and absorbed a hollowpoint bullet for his trouble. Too bad, but condign punishment for a bad dog. In Albuquerque a policewoman checking out a family of dumpster divers: male, female, and family pitbull was suddenly attacked after the male assured the officer that the dog wouldn't attack. In a split second she had to shoot the dog, which had jumped in her face after she had opened the door to the dumpster enclosure, and she hit the dog's spine, much to the dumpster divers' displeasure. The dog dragged itself around for ten minutes yelping in pain while the female dumpster diver wept about her dog. The dog was euthanized a hour later at the vet's. The video is on youtube. I won't include a link. Disturbing.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Italiano 1/29/2022 5:26:02 PM (No. 1055139)
Never known a Pit bull that wasn't friendly. Of course, none of their owners were sociopaths, so there's that.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 1/29/2022 5:30:55 PM (No. 1055142)
These people all have pit bulls.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: danu 1/29/2022 6:06:52 PM (No. 1055170)
AFAIK....the pit bull is labelled as a large hyper-agressive breed, bearing many civil penalties: it can be banned in many communities, and high levels of insurance can be charged to owners.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: PCMM 1/29/2022 6:20:16 PM (No. 1055182)
I’d specifically grab the AK to put down the savage in my front yard that just shot my dog and dgaf what your politics are.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: BarryNo 1/29/2022 6:51:18 PM (No. 1055208)
I've met several pit bulls. They are sweet only when they are puppies, and even then play very rough and without restraint. As they grow up they become increasingly problematic. They are, mentally, very different from other dogs. They seem to fix on one person as their "master" and only grudgingly accept family members in their territory. They will challenge family members and even their masters for dominance for reasons that elude me. Visiting a pit bull owner that I know is kind and good with animals is nerve wracking as an adult pitbull will constantly jockey for a position or approach it can attack you from, even after warned off by it's master multiple times. Small animals are nothing but things to chase grab and shake. That includes children. They seem to have no concept of, "It's bigger than me, I should show some restraint." And frequent exposure means very little after they're about a year old. If you are not tolerated before then you never will be.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: ProudSaber 1/29/2022 7:12:28 PM (No. 1055231)
As a permit owner. At 77 with a charging pit bull, I would shoot and probably empty 7 rounds into the dog. The dog was charging on the owners property. I have been bit 7 times. 2 were pit bulls. Most were on my bicycle and on public roads with lose pets. The first thing I would say to the police officer taken the report "I was in fear of my life when I shot the charging dog and I was only doing what you would have done Officer" Second statement would be "I will not make any more statements without my lawyer present" Also I recommend to all permit carriers to have a high dollar liability insurance. It tends to stop people trying to make a buck even when you are doing the right thing.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: Corndoggies 1/29/2022 7:43:33 PM (No. 1055258)
#2 that girl was not known to those dogs and she went into their house to dogsit them. They were supposed to be in their crates when she arrived but the owners left them out. This wasn’t a case of an attack out of the blue rather dogs defending their house. Not totally blaming the victim but she shouldn’t have gone into that house. And the owners should have crated them.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: JHHolliday 1/29/2022 7:54:01 PM (No. 1055266)
As a retired insurance agent I can clarify the “one bite” rule in Georgia at least. If your dog bites someone, the insurance company will require you to sign an exclusion agreeing that the dog will not be covered under the liability portion of your homeowners policy. You can, of course, decline to sign but the company will non-renew your policy. You will then be hard pressed to find another company to insure you. After the first bite, your dog is then legally known to be a “biter”. It happened to my brother. His dog (a Cocker Spaniel) bit a neighbor’s child and he had to waive coverage or lose his policy.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: stablemoney 1/29/2022 8:44:54 PM (No. 1055299)
Absolutely justified. Did you notice that the owner made no effort to call his dog back, or control his dog as he was attacking his neighbor? Have you ever been charged by a pitbull? I have, and they are vicious, dangerous, and very scary. I was attacked by 2, and I was able to stop them with pepper spray. The dog here should have been on a leash. The owner knows his dog is vicious, and has a responsibility to control that dog, and he didn't do it, because he did not care about his neighbor. Also, notice whose lawn the dog is on. It is not the dog owners. It is the guy defending himself. The neighbor cannot even go out his house without being attacked by the neighbor's dog. The dog owner should be charged and jailed for this attack he allowed standing there and watching.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: hoosierblue 1/29/2022 9:26:18 PM (No. 1055319)
If I were you #14, I wouldn't rely on pepper spray to stop a dog like that. If you do, you may truly regret it later.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: cor-vet 1/29/2022 10:03:58 PM (No. 1055338)
When I walk my neighborhood, I usually carry. I mostly carry because of my extreme aversion to poisonous snakes, so I keep pepper spray for the little aggressive yappy dogs. I've been bitten a couple of times, so I treat most dogs with respect and will cross over to the far side of the street when I pass their homes. One day I had one cross the ditch, and come across the road heading for my ankle. I pepper sprayed him when he was less than a foot from my ankle. Needless to say, it's owners got on the subdivision Facebook page, ranting about the 'heartless' beast that sprayed their innocent little dog while it was 20 feet back on its yard. I simply stated that the next time, I would not heartlessly spray their precious little critter, but would just shoot it. I also informed them, that had it bitten me, I would have owned their nice new house, since we have leash laws here and the little darling was running loose. Every owner that has a dog that has come at me growling and snarling, says the same thing, "He/She won't bite!" The other thing people don't seem to understand is, if your dog bites someone, animal control must be called, they will take the dog and test it for rabies. That could entail it losing its head! I don't say any of this as an animal hater, I've had rescue dogs and cats my whole life, and I fence them or leash them.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: homefry 1/30/2022 7:42:33 AM (No. 1055517)
I walk a lot and have been bitten more than once while out. Last time I got bit, if I'd had a shotgun in hand, ready to shoot, I would not have had time to shoot the dog before being attacked. As quickly as I saw the dog, she was on me. That was the second time the same dog had bitten me even though I had walked by her many, many times in the past. She would always bark at me, but I figured out then and told her owners that IF the dog was with either of them when someone walked by, she was going to bite. They started leaving the dog at home when they walked to the mailbox.
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Administrators at Georgetown Law are considering implementing a “cry room” on campus, so that offended students have a place to go to if they “need to break down” over comments made by law scholar Ilya Shapiro, who has been placed on administrative leave by the university this week after daring to question Joe Biden’s “affirmative action” Supreme Court nomination process. The call for a cry room comes after students took offense to constitutional law scholar Ilya Shapiro’s tweets criticizing President Joe Biden’s “affirmative action” Supreme Court nomination process.
LA Mayor Eric Garcetti Says He Held His
Breath During Maskless Photos At NFC Title Game
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Posted by NorthernDog 2/3/2022 10:52:10 AM Post Reply
LOS ANGELES – Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti, who is facing major criticism for being pictured without a mask at last weekend’s NFC title game in SoFi Stadium, claimed Wednesday that he held his breath whenever removing his mask. Garcetti took a photo with Lakers legend Magic Johnson, both unmasked, at Sunday’s game between the Rams and the San Francisco 49ers. California Gov. Gavin Newsom also took an unmasked photo with Magic as well at the game. Both photos went viral and prompted significant controversy. Under L.A. County guidelines, all fans attending the game were required to wear masks when
Iowa bill could see cameras installed
in classrooms — so parents can livestream
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Posted by Ribicon 2/4/2022 10:44:15 AM Post Reply
Conservative lawmakers in Iowa are pushing to have cameras installed in public school classrooms to allow parents to watch via livestreams—as the debate over critical race theory continues to rage. The lawmakers introduced the bill this week that would see cameras put in almost every K-12 classroom, with the exception of physical education and special needs classes. Teachers who fail to keep the camera recording, or obstruct its view, could be fined up to 5 percent of their weekly salary each time they are caught doing it, according to the bill.(Snip)Florida recently introduced a similar bill to have cameras and microphones installed in public school classrooms.
16 Penn Swimmers Say Trans Teammate Lia
Thomas Should Not Compete
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Posted by Hazymac 2/4/2022 2:42:19 PM Post Reply
Is the dam finally breaking on maintaining the fantasy that trans women do not have an inherent advantage over biological females in competitive sports? Sixteen members of the University of Pennsylvania women’s swim team sent a letter to the school and to the Ivy League, asking them not to take legal action that would challenge the new NCAA rules for transgender athletes to compete. The new rules would make it very difficult for their trans teammate, Lia Thomas, to compete as a female. The 16 swimmers — out of 39 on the team — are asking that Thomas be sidelined. “We fully support Lia Thomas in her decision to affirm
Dutch residents vow to hurl EGGS at Jeff
Bezos's newly-built £400m Y721 superyacht
as it sets sail for first time after Amazon
billionaire asked to dismantle historic
bridge to get vessel out
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Posted by Ribicon 2/4/2022 10:28:10 AM Post Reply
More than 3,900 people are 'interested' in a Facebook event calling for Rotterdam residents to throw rotten eggs Jeff Bezos's newly built-superyacht, for which a historic Dutch bridge will be dismantled. The bill to allow the yacht to pass through being footed by the Amazon billionaire, with the £400million, 417ft (127 metre) Y721 set to be the biggest sailing yacht in the world when it is completed this year in the Netherlands, overtaking the current largest ocean-going passenger ship Sea Cloud.(Snip)'Rotterdam was built from the rubble by the people of Rotterdam, and we don't just take that apart for the pha**us symbol of a megalomaniac billionaire.
Biden taking new action to combat rising
crime and gun violence
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Posted by Garnet 2/3/2022 12:43:50 PM Post Reply
President Joe Biden will launch a slate of new actions Thursday aimed at combating rising crime and gun violence in major metropolitan areas across the country. Biden will announce the new programs during a visit to New York City on Thursday with Mayor Eric Adams and New York Gov. Kathy Hochul."The President is committed to serving as a strong partner for communities on the frontlines of the fight against crime. That’s why his American Rescue Plan gives cities and states historic levels of funding that they can use to put more cops on the beat, and invest in community-based violence prevention and intervention programs," the White House said in a statement.
Pelosi urges US Olympians not to anger
‘ruthless’ Chinese government
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Posted by Imright 2/4/2022 3:40:18 AM Post Reply
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Thursday urged US athletes competing in the Beijing Winter Olympics to keep mum on China’s human rights abuses because the country’s government is “ruthless.”Pelosi issued the warning during testimony at a Congressional-Executive Commission on China. She acknowledged the US has a moral obligation to condemn the rights violations – but insisted the Olympic games were not the proper venue for athletes to voice their concerns.“If we do not speak out against human rights violations in China, because of commercial interests, we lose all moral authority to speak out against human rights violations anywhere,” Pelosi said.
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