Situation ‘dire’ as Coast Guard seeks
38 missing off Florida
Associated Press,
by
Adriana Gomez Licon
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
1/26/2022 11:20:27 AM
Miami Beach, Fla.—The U.S. Coast Guard battled time and currents Wednesday as aircraft and ships searched for 38 people missing in the Atlantic off Florida, four days after the capsizing of a suspected smuggling boat killed at least one and left one known survivor. Capt. Jo-Ann F. Burdian told a news conference that finding the other migrants alive is their highest priority. She said the survivor told rescuers that they capsized shortly after sailing into a storm from the Bahamas Saturday evening.(Snip)The man said he was part of a group of 40 people who left the island of Bimini in the Bahamas on Saturday evening
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Vaquero45 1/26/2022 11:31:28 AM (No. 1051419)
They were coming here illegally. Why are we looking for them?
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
downnout 1/26/2022 11:44:32 AM (No. 1051436)
Finding anyone alive now is highly unlikely. The current will take them north and there are sharks ….
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Sanchin 1/26/2022 12:19:46 PM (No. 1051479)
I hope they find them alive and well. Tend to their health, give them a hot plate of food, and a warm bed. Then send them back to where they came from and bill their respective countries.
OOOPS! I forgot I no longer live in a country that recognizes its own borders and enforces legal immigration. Still hope they are found alive and if they are I am sure they will be received with open arms, free medical, free flights, and free housing.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Hazymac 1/26/2022 12:24:02 PM (No. 1051488)
It's midwinter, and the ocean is not warm. Hypothermia wouldn't take long to set in. In air, sixty degrees is cool; in water, sixty degrees is rapidly fatal. Those poor folks drowned in cold ocean water. Don't mess about on the big water. It's not our home.
The article states that nine foot seas capsized that 25 foot boat. I've been in 12 foot seas in a 28 foot Baja cigarette boat after a scuba diver retrieving a stuck anchor, afraid of getting the bends, took twenty minutes to surface as sudden vicious storm hit us, sending the seas from an uncomfortable four feet to triple that. We were twenty miles out at sea, and if my best friend hadn't had professional boat handling skills, we wouldn't have made it in. That was the most intense situation of my adult life.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
JunkYardDog 1/26/2022 12:39:33 PM (No. 1051509)
A boatload of Cubans lost at sea...but why would they be coming to such a racist, oppressive, white-priviledge filled hellhole like the US while they can enjoy the worker's paradise that is Cuba? They get FREE HEALTHCARE! (which is more like a bottle of aspirin to treat an amputation)
If anybody is interested, check out a Youtube channel called Yoel And Mari. Yoel recently emigrated (legally, they stress!) to the US from Cuba and the whole channel is documenting his experiences in the US: his first visit to a supermarket, to a car dealership, to a movie theater, to a dept. store. His eyes almost fall out of his head when he sees the supermarket, and ALL THE FOOD. I get no kickbacks from anyone visiting this site lol, but I think a lot of you will find it entertaining and educational.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Birddog 1/26/2022 12:49:55 PM (No. 1051523)
Bimini is a tiny place, 40 people in a 25ft boat would be OBVIOUS to every single person there, including the Police, coast guard, hotel/motel/gas dock security and cashiers.They were not arrested there, because "someone" made a decision NOT to arrest them there.Last year when the Hurricane hit the Islands, nearly all of the deaths and destruction were in Haitian's shanty towns, crammed with Illegals, living in shacks made of garbage scraps..
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
udanja99 1/26/2022 1:15:54 PM (No. 1051554)
#5, I had a similar reaction when I returned home after 3 years behind the Iron Curtain. On my first trip to the Safeway in Northern Virginia, I had margarine on my shopping list and there were so many different ones available that I left without making a purchase - too many choices after 3 years of no choices was overwhelming. On my second visit I encountered a geezer in the produce section who was yelling at the stock boy about the price of oranges. I butted in and told him that he should be bloody well happy that he could get oranges any time he wanted them. That was 36 years ago and I still hoard food - the sight of a half empty fridge or pantry makes me antsy.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Toby Ten Bears 1/26/2022 1:21:24 PM (No. 1051563)
That's not dire... That's good news for America!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
DVC 1/26/2022 1:24:17 PM (No. 1051567)
Shoulda stayed home.
My box of sympathy for illegals who have problems sneaking into our country is empty, and I just wish they'd stay away.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Skinnydip 1/26/2022 1:24:19 PM (No. 1051568)
And I'm supposed to care?
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
FLCracker 1/26/2022 1:41:34 PM (No. 1051583)
Sounds like they made the rookie mistake of looking at a map and seeing how close Bimini is to Florida. Easy, quick trip, right? They should have looked at both charts (not maps) and noticed that big thing called the Gulf Stream inbetween, plus weather advisories.
For many of you out here, the uniformed services of the United States (including the Coast Guard) treat all that need help. That includes wounded enemies on the battlefield (including Wounded Knee), trying to stop Japanese military and civilians from committing suicide, running into the burning Nazi dirigible "Hindenburg", and pulling crews off sinking German submarines.
How is this different?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 1/26/2022 2:01:32 PM (No. 1051599)
We never asked for them to come here.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
DVC 1/26/2022 2:16:09 PM (No. 1051615)
One December I was making the crossing from Bimini to the Miami area in a friend's 37 foot sailboat. We ran into a storm. It blew up a Force 8 gale, seas running at about 25-30 ft., the masthead anemometer said 38 knots wind.
That boat, in flat water in Biscayne Bay, with a 15-20 knot breeze, with the big genoa (jib) and full mainsail would make about 7 knots, fast for a boat of it's type. That stormy day we had the mainsail stowed, and the storm jib reefed down three points to maintain steerage way. We were running 8 knots with that tiny piece of a jib alone, amazingly. We were worried that the tiny, overloaded jib would blow out.
I don't get seasick, so I worked the fore deck, reefing down that one small storm jib as the wind blew up higher and higher. I enjoyed it, stood on the extreme bow, hanging on the fore stay, and my feet would just dip into the water at the bottom of the trough, and then we'd scream up the next wave, pop through the top and I'd be 10 feet above the tip of a 30 ft wave, as we tipped down to roar down to the next trough. It was fun for the first 3-4 hours, but with tacking and the current we fought east for 8 hours. The owner had the helm, his wife and kids looking green below decks, occasionally going to the rail to puke.
In a boat that is set up for it, with a competent crew, a force 8 gale is a serious, dangerous challenge, with a 4 knot northerly set from the Gulf Stream to screw up your navigation a lot, too. Get out there in the wrong boat without skilled crew? Can easily be deadly.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
BeatleJeff 1/26/2022 2:20:46 PM (No. 1051617)
You know Team Dementia is desperately trying to find them since those are 38 potential future Democrat voters.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
DVC 1/26/2022 2:37:14 PM (No. 1051632)
Actually, #4, the Gulf Stream is very warm, even now, probably 78-80F and the waters around shore near Bimini are nice, probably 75ish. We've sailed there several winters and did snorkeling and such, and while the deep water away from shore, and out of the Gulf Stream is cooler, still not real bad, I'd guess around 70F. Air temps can be cool at times. You can really feel the water temp difference when you get into the Gulf Stream in winter, at least 8-10F warmer than offshore deep water outside the stream.
But your point is still valid. Any water temp below 98.6F will slowly chill a person out and eventually kill you. But it may take days in warmer waters. My bet is that drowning in that storm would be more likely than hypothermia for most.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Birddog 1/26/2022 2:52:29 PM (No. 1051648)
Ya don't cross the Gulf Stream with a north wind blowing, or even forecast.The swell goes from long, relaxing,rolling hills with the crests far apart to short STEEP waves with breaking tops. It's hard on the boat and hard on the crew. I used to deliver boats for people back and forth from the carib to the east coast, took one guys "Retirement" boat from Annapolis to Fla, he and his wife took over to cross to the Bahamas and start their "New Life" afloat...(they had sailed summers at Home on prior boats, and in The Bahamas/Virgins after I had delivered it there for them) I warned him to watch the cold fronts, wait them out, he had the rest of his life to sail, don't let the calendar make any decisions anymore, but his wife had scheduled a dinner party with some "Friends from Home" that had a house in the islands and they left with a front on it's way. I got a call from him three days later...Would I fly straight there from SanFrancisco and get the boat back to the USA? His wife had caught the first flight back to her Sisters, and he had to catch her, try to save their marriage, and find a HOUSE for them to spend their retirement in.,
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
MindMadeUp 1/26/2022 3:13:59 PM (No. 1051685)
They need to start cutting open fishes' bellies, if they want to find them now.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
anniebc 1/26/2022 4:20:00 PM (No. 1051734)
I had the same experience coming back home from Africa, poster #7. Too many choices! I stood in the grocery isles for what seemed like hours. It doesn't take humans long to adjust; I was in Africa for less than two years. There were no grocery stores, just open markets.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
jalo1951 1/26/2022 4:41:51 PM (No. 1051754)
I don't want them to perish like this. But it is a chance you take. Sometimes you lose.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Paglia guy 1/26/2022 5:02:02 PM (No. 1051763)
I hope no Coasties are killed or injured during this dangerous and uninvited search.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
Omen55 1/26/2022 7:27:12 PM (No. 1051902)
You pays your $$$ you take your chances.
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