Sheriff: We Would Have Taken Oxford Shooting
Suspect’s Guns if School Had Alerted Us
Breitbart,
by
AWR Hawkins
Original Article
Posted By: Black Conservative Voice,
12/4/2021 7:21:18 AM
Michigan’s Oakland County Sheriff Mike Bouchard said Friday if the school had included resource officers in meetings with parents over concerns of violence, his office would have taken action to be sure the alleged Oxford High School shooter had no access to guns.
KPTV reports that Oxford school superintendent Tim Throne made clear that the school had not reached the point of actually disciplining the shooter prior to his attack.
Throne said, “No discipline was warranted. There are no discipline records at the high school.”
Reply 1 - Posted by:
singermom9 12/4/2021 7:27:14 AM (No. 996571)
Boloney. None of them DO anything to protect us. Nice thing to say, after the fact. How many died? They cannot protect us. Too afraid to go against "the libs" who want us unprotected against evil in the world.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
ROLFNader 12/4/2021 7:39:18 AM (No. 996576)
Coulda, woulda, shoulda.......
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
jinx 12/4/2021 7:48:39 AM (No. 996581)
The parents were in denial and refused help. I have seen it happen before. They may have been afraid of him. They also taught him a love of guns and he probably played violent video games which they bought him. Yes, they should be held accountable for not getting on top of his problems earlier.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Heil Liberals 12/4/2021 7:55:03 AM (No. 996585)
The only time I saw an SRO interact with students, parents, and administrators in a meeting is when a student was being charged and removed to a juvenile facility. I have personally never seen or been involved in a student meeting that included an SRO. There is a distinct separation of powers between school administration and the local LEO for a reason: it’s the difference between “reasonable suspicion” and “probable cause.”
It is only natural to jump to conclusions about the discipline issues that this monster was facing. I will withhold judgement about the administrator’s actions until more evidence is available. For those without intimate knowledge of the school legal environment, it is hard to read this and not draw the conclusion that its soft-on-discipline leftists running the building. School Board policies, State law, and Federal law all dictate the actions administrators can take. If the student has a diagnosis, an Individual Education Plan (IEP), or a 504, then there are steps that must be followed, copious documentation collected, multiple interventions with increasing consequences, and other things that must be done prior to a suspension. Immediate suspension is only warranted for the grossest violation of school rules or policies, and that doesn’t happen very often.
Since this will be an adult trial, the evidence will become public and the events that took place leading up to this monster unleashing his hate on innocents will be brought to light. If the administration or law enforcement is culpable, then we will be able to decide then.
BTW, I did not from the student video that a LEO was holding a door open for students while the shooter is loose. If that is the case, he should be immediately terminated. His absolute first priority is to go to hunt down the shooter and stop the attack, period. That he was there to open a door tells me that proper protocol was violated. His actions contradict everything that is current in modern LEO training for active school shooters. But, once again, I’ll wait for the evidence.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
The Remnants 12/4/2021 7:55:56 AM (No. 996586)
Does Instagram have any responsibility for not reporting his messages to the authorities?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
sw penn 12/4/2021 8:23:56 AM (No. 996608)
So, again...
If school personnel are "Co-Parents",
who can take little girls to abortion clinics and back without "parental" consent,
who can council little boys into "thinking" they are little girls,
who can impose porn as "sex ed" upon all the littles,
who have a duty to notify,
why aren't they being charged right along with the "parents"???
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
bighambone 12/4/2021 8:47:14 AM (No. 996621)
The school administration was incompetent, criminally culpable as accessories before those murders and aggravated assaults in the high school, and probably are civilly liable, for not immediately notifying law enforcement that the 15 year old boy had been exhibiting behavior that was potentially very dangerous, by indicating that he intended to shoot other people or students and had access to firearms, before the school administration allowed the boy back into the school, especially as they even failed to search him and his backpack for a hidden firearm as he entered the school.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
berthabutt 12/4/2021 8:53:55 AM (No. 996625)
If Jr had refused to wear a mask or parents raise he'll over curriculum content LE would be right up in their business with zip tie handcuffs.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Strike3 12/4/2021 9:09:58 AM (No. 996638)
The school had a greater interest in hiding it's own internal problems, as most of them do, just as Marjory Stoneman Douglas did with Nicholas Cruz. We pay good money for every school to have a psychologist and guidance counselors only to have them deny that a student occasionally goes nuts and becomes a lethal threat to everybody around him. Not much they can do with crazy parents though. This couple is in deeper than many suspect.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
plainjane 12/4/2021 9:19:23 AM (No. 996651)
Law enforcement most likely will collect more accurate information on the shooter and his discipline history from his fellow students than from those school employees who write the “official” records.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
hershey 12/4/2021 10:02:08 AM (No. 996702)
And under just which law would you have done that?
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
coldoc 12/4/2021 10:57:56 AM (No. 996777)
I dont know what privacy laws prevail there, but from what I have read, he probably had the pistol in his backpack during the meeting. Evidently no-one thought to look.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Birddog 12/4/2021 11:02:37 AM (No. 996784)
No details about what exactly those "Behavior issues" were/are...what was discussed with the student/shooter, what was discussed with the Parents. The parents were at the school earlier that day, did they have to leave the kid home alone for the meeting then return him to the school? Did they ride together to the school?
Where was the SRO? Did he/she engage with the active shooter, or at least run that direction? Why was it cops from elsewhere that were 1st to confront the kid?
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
mc squared 12/4/2021 12:27:58 PM (No. 996869)
Remember the kid who was disciplined for eating his Pop-Tart into the shape of a pistol? Administrators teaching our kids can't tell a real threat from a snack.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Laotzu 12/5/2021 9:50:45 AM (No. 997647)
An empathetic and intuitive School Resource Officer can make a huge difference in the lives of every student in the Community. But it's government. So, as we saw with the Parkland shooting, too, SRO jobs go to the old farts retired on active duty who aren't suited to dealing with taxpayer adults any longer.
And Sheriff, the student didn't have any guns to take. His father had guns. This Sheriff is as delusional as most Michigan Democrats.
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