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The REAL reason women earn less at work:
Harvard professor says sex discrimination,
gender bias or a glass ceiling aren't
to blame - it's 'greedy' jobs that are
impossible to sustain once women have children

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Posted By: Ribicon, 11/29/2021 9:57:30 AM

The gender pay gap is rooted in the issue of 'greedy jobs', rather than sex discrimination, gender bias or a glass ceiling, a Harvard economics professor has claimed. Claudia Goldin, who taught Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg, outlines her argument in her new book, Career & Family, which draws on research to show that highly-paid 'greedy jobs' in City law, banking and politics force women to choose between their careers and families once they become mothers. The term 'greedy job' describes 'a certain type of "beck and call" job, which pays over the odds for extensive travel, unpredictable, inflexible hours and demanding client facetime,' The Times explains.


In other words, a person can't be in two places at the same time, and you can't have your cake and eat it too. This logic will cause outrage among the feminists.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: joew9 11/29/2021 10:05:48 AM (No. 991887)
It's the fault of that creature that made women the ones who have the babies.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 11/29/2021 10:11:55 AM (No. 991898)
File under "duh". But at least this will put it to rest. Reminds me of the comprehensive study that showed women are most sexually (note, I am talking sex here, not more complicated attraction issues) attracted to physically strong men and that they (women) were generally very good gauging how strong a man was by looking at him.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: Quigley 11/29/2021 10:44:50 AM (No. 991919)
FTA: 'So the devil is in the detail here,' Goldin told The Times. 'You really have to go occupation by occupation. And that’s the work that I've done, showing that there is a clear relationship between the occupational demands and the gender wage gaps.’ Imagine looking at the details and individual facts. Not the Dim way.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: bigfatslob 11/29/2021 11:07:47 AM (No. 991941)
When I was still in the work force many moons ago the very large company, I worked for gave me a 'greedy job' to do. It was very demanding and time consuming, I have to clarify, I'm not female. When I moved on the greedy job was given to a POC, a black female within a week the demanding job was liquidated, done away with, gone. That's how you end greedy job put blacks in charge of them.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: JunkYardDog 11/29/2021 11:20:46 AM (No. 991951)
I believe its time for those torches and pitchforks. Anybody agree?
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Words have Meaning 11/29/2021 11:42:37 AM (No. 991977)
I was traveling with my very liberal lesbian sister over Thanksgiving when the topic of women getting paid less than men came up. I said it was because women often follow their husbands around to his new job. I also added that women often quit to raise their children (aka stay at home mom). That really set my very liberal lesbian sister off as she said many women can get pregnant and raise their children and keep their job. She explained in no uncertain terms that was a very sexist thing to say. So I got that going for me. There was really no arguing with her...even though she is wrong and our own mother did that exact thing when she started having kids. Hey...why do the men in a relationship always die first?...because they want to.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Avanti1 11/29/2021 11:57:32 AM (No. 991985)
Life is all about priorities and tradeoffs. You get to set the priorities and must make tradeoffs to realize the higher priority items. Although you may wish it were true, you cannot have everything.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: ChattyCatsSusan 11/29/2021 12:08:21 PM (No. 992000)
One of the things I respected the late and great actress Kathryn Hepburn for is she recognized this dichotomy early on. Either be satisfied with her great career, or split herself and give less attention to both aspects of her life if she would have had kids. She was an achiever, and she knew then that it would be unfair to her kids if she could not give them the attention and effort required. I think if more women would grow up and grasp this concept, that you cannot have it both ways, there would be a lot less dissatisfaction with lives. It is called being an adult. But unfortunately, mankind has been brainwashed to believe that you have no personal responsibility to choose how your life goes, that if you don't like it, it is somebody else's fault. Nobody alive is promised a bed of roses. We all make our own choices.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: SALady 11/29/2021 12:51:38 PM (No. 992036)
Super successful men can "have it all", because they tend to find wives who are willing to let them work long and demanding hours while the wife does the more traditional jobs of taking care of the home and family. It's a very symbiotic partnership. And it's a win/win for both. Very few women are going to find a husband that is going to take on that role of taking care of the home and kids while she works those same long and demanding hours. And most women, once they have kids, find those natural "maternal" instincts kick in, and careers never seem like the top priority again. That is just the reality of it. I am so thankful that my husband was willing to work long and hard hours so that I could stay home with my kids when they were young. When I did start working again, I never expected to catch up to the men and women who had worked non-stop all those years. But I never wanted to "catch up" either, since work was just something to make money, but my family would always come first!!!
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Reply 10 - Posted by: chance_232 11/29/2021 1:21:04 PM (No. 992060)
Thats part of the story. The other part of the story is that few women work in the trades. I.e. plumbing, carpentry, electrical, plumbing, HVAC, heavy equipment operators, roofers etc etc etc. I can probably count on one hand the number of women that I've seen working on construction sites. There is little reason that women "can't" work in these fields. Perhaps they just dont want to work in those fields.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: thethirdruffian 11/29/2021 1:38:14 PM (No. 992068)
#9. You are correct, but there is more. Super successful women would not respect or be happy with a “non ambitious” man who stayed at home. It might start out OK, but she’d be cruel and eventually dump him or have affairs. Saw it with my sisters and many an Ivy League classmate/coworker.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: JrSample 11/29/2021 1:41:12 PM (No. 992071)
If the ridiculous claim were true [woman do the same work as men while being paid less], then employers would be scrambling to hire only women and men would be priced out of work.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: lynngirl122 11/29/2021 1:59:46 PM (No. 992084)
Babies and children want to be with their mothers. Mothers want to be with their babies and children.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: TXknitter 11/29/2021 2:08:20 PM (No. 992093)
My son works in the engineering field. Sorry, he has seen too many women hired and promoted JUST because they were female. Diversity quotas looked at by big money investors seeking to buy companies. They were paid more too right out of college for just that reason and only that reason. Exactly OP and #8. Katherine Hepburn flat out admitted, as few actresses are want to do, that the life of the intensely devoted actress is fairly selfish. She had seen too many of her peers with miserable children because the career was #1. True and its not only so in acting. Some things shall forever be true. What you give the most time, attention to most often succeeds. A successful happy marriage and family life is never by accident. Choices.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: Clinger 11/29/2021 2:16:54 PM (No. 992102)
Well we can't simply state that it's because they chose not to do some of the things men do in higher proportion, we need to call it a "greedy job."
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Reply 16 - Posted by: WV.Hillbilly 11/29/2021 2:17:01 PM (No. 992103)
If businesses are so evil, and pay women less than men, why don't they just fire all the men and hire only women?
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Reply 17 - Posted by: enemyofthestate 11/29/2021 2:17:46 PM (No. 992104)
In my working experience ---- generally--- women come in late and leave early, always using children as the excuse, and they call in sick much more often. THAT's the reason they are paid less. An inconvenient truth.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: HHFi2 11/29/2021 11:23:24 PM (No. 992478)
After much research, the author has discovered what anyone with half an ounce of sense has always known: men make more money because they're willing to take on the harder, more dangerous jobs and put in longer hours. You can call them "greedy" jobs to put a negative spin on it, but that won't stop it from being true. At to #10's point about women in trades, I saw a YouTube video recently that quoted women blaming men because most women don't have those type of skills, but insisting they could learn them if they wanted to. The host pointed out that women are not a majority in any trade and said, "Ladies, there is no patriarchy oppressing you to keep you from going to trade school. If you want to learn those skills, do it." But they don't want to. They just want to claim they could do those jobs as well as any man, while continuing to let men do them, yet blame those same men because they don't know to do them.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: mifla 11/30/2021 3:30:29 AM (No. 992565)
The author should interview Kamala.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: IAmButASimpleCaveman 11/30/2021 11:50:11 AM (No. 992917)
i recall being exposed to a paper in grad school in a labor economics course that analyzed women's career pursuits. the implications were that they tended to pursue more slowly evolving fields (e.g. french literature as opposed to particle physics) because taking time out for raising children early on did not leave a big gap to catch up to advances in the field when they returned to the labor force. but pay rates in the slower evolving fields was lower. until the (presumably) joint decisions on child rearing responsibilities change this supposed disparity will continue. however, given that this is often a joint decision this study does not seem to counter-balance the effect of allowing the father to concentrate more on his career. one can look at the woman's income alone or the total household income from the child rearing decisions.
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