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about American nuclear submarines
- warning 'if the US can't beat
a bunch of Taliban rebels in pick-up
trucks, what chance would it
have against China?'

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Posted By: Imright, 9/16/2021 12:34:40 AM

Former prime minister Paul Keating has slammed the new nuclear submarines deal between the US, UK and Australia, arguing the US military can't beat a bunch of Taliban rebels in pick-up trucks.In a damning assessment of the agreement jointly announced this morning by Prime Minister Scott Morrison, US President Joe Biden and UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson, Mr Keating said the deal represented a further 'dramatic loss of Australian sovereignty'. Mr Keating, the famously acid-tongued Labor PM from 1991-1996, released a statement that questioned the wisdom of Australia locking in its military equipment and defence forces with the US

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Reply 1 - Posted by: SALady 9/16/2021 12:44:05 AM (No. 915961)
Sadly, under not-my-president Lyin' Joe biden and the current military leaders of this country, you can't say he's wrong...
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Reply 2 - Posted by: Californian 9/16/2021 12:51:16 AM (No. 915964)
But, the adults are back in charge and the whole world respects us now! America is back!!!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: JL80863 9/16/2021 12:52:59 AM (No. 915965)
While I understand the frustration, it was "the suits not the boots" that caused the issue. The US military is perfectly capable of carrying out any assigned mission.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: qr4j 9/16/2021 12:55:31 AM (No. 915966)
Mr. Keating is spot on.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: stablemoney 9/16/2021 1:10:36 AM (No. 915974)
Yes, and we paid for their pickups and AK47s. Plus Milley had a good relationship with the Taliban and kept them up to date before we did anything.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Ribicon 9/16/2021 1:24:23 AM (No. 915990)
Yes, but think of the profits to be had by our arms dealers. FTA: "Mr Keating said Australia had experienced difficulty in running 'a bunch of Australian built conventional submarines'. 'Imagine the difficulty in moving to sophisticated nuclear submarines, their maintenance and operational complexity,' he noted. He said Australia would make itself 'hostage' to the US maintaining a supply chain across 'the whole Pacific' to east Asia from the US West Coast."
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Reply 7 - Posted by: DVC 9/16/2021 1:37:24 AM (No. 915996)
A Wuhan flu penal colony with nuclear subs?
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Ashley Brenton 9/16/2021 2:31:11 AM (No. 916010)
What kind of idiot compares a stupid low-tech counter-insurgency war to a high tech war of conventional forces in which we would not even try to invade and hold territory on mainland China?
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Reply 9 - Posted by: NotaBene 9/16/2021 2:41:42 AM (No. 916012)
What weakens confidence in the US Navy is that we cannot navigate two destroyers through the Malacca straights without colliding with merchant ships. Our sailors are not trained to sail ships. If an airplane carrier gets a CCP virus case the yellowbelly captain disables the entire ship publicly for all to know. After the Afghanistan defeat no Nation should trust the woke US Military prowess, unless they want to lose Globalist wars for the Rothschilds too
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Reply 10 - Posted by: DogFacedPonySoldier 9/16/2021 4:25:12 AM (No. 916019)
...and with stupid generals like Milley, who would want to go with the U.S. as an ally?
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Reply 11 - Posted by: 5 handicap 9/16/2021 5:41:15 AM (No. 916048)
#3 Not with the scum who are in charge of the Rules of Engagement. I am with you #10
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rinktum 9/16/2021 6:06:28 AM (No. 916059)
Actions have consequences…
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Red Jeep 9/16/2021 7:28:38 AM (No. 916112)
"...the US military can't beat a bunch of Taliban rebels in pick-up trucks." Sadly that statement is so true. How can that be? Did our military leaders not fight to win anything in Afghanistan?
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Come And Take It 9/16/2021 7:32:17 AM (No. 916115)
Then let the Aussies build their own submarines, if they are capable. Otherwise, pizz off. Labor = Commie. Keating would naturally gravitate towards fellatio of the Chinese.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: philsner 9/16/2021 7:56:49 AM (No. 916139)
I agree completely, but I have this dissonance: Maybe we can't beat terrorists in pick up trucks, but does that mean Australia and the UK can?
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Reply 16 - Posted by: homefry 9/16/2021 8:10:18 AM (No. 916153)
I did some dumb stuff when I was prez, but I never let a bunch of 16th century goat herders kick my butt. Jimmy, Plains Georgia.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: AltaD 9/16/2021 8:30:09 AM (No. 916167)
FTA: In recent years the former prime minister has been a strident critic of Australia's overreliance on its alliance with the US, arguing we should focus more on our relationships in south-east Asia, particularly China. So it isn't just Biden's debacle in Afghanistan, it's the fact that Keating prefers the CCP to democracy.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Heil Liberals 9/16/2021 9:13:13 AM (No. 916216)
The man is not wrong.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Strike3 9/16/2021 9:29:38 AM (No. 916239)
The weakness of the United States does not lie in our military equipment or personnel but in the minds of the perverted fools that are in charge of it and its use. We had the Taliban under control until Biden pulled the dumbest military move in history since the Trojans dragged that wooden horse through their city gates, or, more recently, General George Custer assuming that the Sioux would be pushovers.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: bigfatslob 9/16/2021 9:37:11 AM (No. 916256)
No malarkey with Joe Biden America is Back the mean tweets are gone enjoy the new America.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: petrichor 9/16/2021 9:55:36 AM (No. 916288)
Just a guess here, but I'm not sure we would have defeated Germany without invading Germany. How many today would say we were expanding the war by invading Germany.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: moebellini3 9/16/2021 10:00:26 AM (No. 916298)
You can have the best military in the world, but if it has leaders who are "woke" idiots tiptoeing through the tulips you ain't beating anybody. Oh, anybody find any of those white supremacists yet. Just asking....
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Reply 23 - Posted by: MDConservative 9/16/2021 11:24:36 AM (No. 916397)
The US military is a reflection of American society...treasure diversity, understand the other person, all values are negotiable, and winning isn't everything...participation is all you need. Patton said in his speech, "We have the best team—we have the finest food and equipment, the best spirit and the best men in the world. Why, by God, I actually pity these poor (buggers) we're going up against." That's just not true today. We have overwhelming force in weaponry and skills, and refuse to use them to full effect, like a baseball team taking every pitch so as not to embarrass the opposition, keeping things "even" and "fair" to avoid criticism. When the draft was abolished, part of the hope then was that the "volunteer military" would become softer as cannon fodder draftees would be replaced in the field by family men, less drawn to risk and death. Back home the stories of grieving families would be in the papers and media to show the produce of war. Wailing spouses and children make for great visuals in propaganda, as do the spectacles of coffins arriving at Dover. And here we are. For perspective: While the US lost approximately 3000 military lives in Afghanistan over 20 years, the US lost over 6000 in 90 days during the Okinawa engagement. Mr. Keating, our equipment is best in world class. Our submarines the current zenith. Our leadership and our national will to win...well, that's another matter.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: bighambone 9/16/2021 11:39:22 AM (No. 916418)
Well if the Australian Government has lost confidence and trust in Biden and his administration due to the big Biden retreat and surrender to the 7th Century Taliban of Afghanistan, and believe that Biden’s support for this new alliance is just another diversion from the Afghan debacle. Australia could have their future nuclear submarines built in the UK, then future schizophrenic American Federal Governments that change every four or eight years, depending on if the politically aggressive leftist and socialist Democrats or the wimpy Republicans end up in charge, would have minimum control over future Australian nuclear submarine maintenance and operations.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: Samsquanch 9/16/2021 1:38:23 PM (No. 916549)
He's got a point, although those Toyota trucks do look pretty fierce in battle dress.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: Samsquanch 9/16/2021 1:40:39 PM (No. 916557)
Replace Milley with a Patton or MacArthur and we would be once again an unrivalled fighting force.
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