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How we as a nation — and I as a military
officer — failed in Afghanistan

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Posted By: Imright, 8/24/2021 10:01:08 PM

I’ve been giving a lot of thought to what went wrong in Afghanistan, where we went failed as a nation — and where I made mistakes as an officer. No. 1 was going to Iraq. Like many, I backed that invasion. But in retrospect, it distracted our forces for a war that had nothing to do with 9/11. We should have stayed focused on Afghanistan.In Afghanistan, meanwhile, one of our biggest mistakes was with the Afghan army. And I was part of the problem.We built an army that was similar to Western armies, which are designed to employ overwhelming firepower

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Italiano 8/24/2021 10:06:10 PM (No. 891493)
An Afghanistan tax on Americans. Right. That would have offset the incompetence, no question.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: stablemoney 8/24/2021 10:17:45 PM (No. 891506)
Digressions about how someone failed in the past is not solving today's problems.
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Reply 3 - Posted by: sanspeur 8/24/2021 10:18:35 PM (No. 891507)
We as a nation did not fail .our leaders . spit, were glo-bullist suxk ups with no concern whatsoever for THIS country. They were unfaithful to their promise to “protect & defend THIS place ..not make the world like us ..
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Reply 4 - Posted by: kgjj 8/24/2021 10:39:25 PM (No. 891520)
Mistake in trusting the packies??????? Clinton started destroying the military and this bozo is Exhibit A for the resulting incompetence.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: Catherine 8/24/2021 11:08:25 PM (No. 891537)
Wrong. We as a nation did not fail in Afghanistan. The woke liberals running the country now had this planned for a long time. Trump put a kink in their plans so they waited him out, kept him busy with impeachment crap and worked out a fool proof system of stealing the election. Now we are hauling in taliban terrorist by the plane load and putting them all around the country. We might still save ourselves. We still can legally have guns. If we didn't, we'd be going the way of Australia right now.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: RedWhite&Blue2 8/24/2021 11:09:07 PM (No. 891538)
Laugh? Or cry? Patton and McArthur are spinning tonight... MAGA ...and do it fast!
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Philipsonh 8/24/2021 11:20:36 PM (No. 891549)
The general didn't know that Muslims act like Muslims and that terrorists act like terrorists; Obviously he and those like him have no knowledge of history. They should have comsulted with the Israelis, who Do understand their enemies.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: Sanchin 8/24/2021 11:34:56 PM (No. 891573)
What is this “we” nonsense. The only mistake “we” made was in selecting George Bush as a presidential candidate to run against Amal Gore. Then voting for him But the alternative would have been worse in other areas. And a tax??? Yes the military and politicians view Americans as insignificant serfs to be used and discarded.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: Come And Take It 8/24/2021 11:58:18 PM (No. 891588)
This self-flagellation is nonsense. The mistake was not leaving after we pounded the hell out of the Taliban in the first place, and trying to nation-build something that is little more than a bunch of tribes that have been killing each other over the same toilet for 1000 years plus. And THAT, is the fault of one George W Bush, who wanted his legacy as the conqueror of the Graveyard of Empires. Others that followed built on that mistake, until Trump finally decided that enough of this crap was enough. Had the Trump plan been followed, this disaster would never have happened.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: WI Cynic 8/25/2021 1:10:37 AM (No. 891627)
No matter who was President, whether it happened one year after we invaded or 10 years from now, Afghanistan was going to immediately fall to the Taliban as soon as we left. Afghanistan is not a nation in a western sense; it is an area of tribes with no central loyalty. Its "army" was going to sell out and surrender, because they had no loyalty to a non-nation. The difference with President Trump is that he'd have coordinated with our allies, he'd have had all the western civilians out, then all the Afghans who'd worked for us out, then any gear worth saving out, then our embassy staff out, and then the troops out... and when the place immediately fell to the Taliban, we'd leave no hostages behind.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: RuckusTom 8/25/2021 3:54:47 AM (No. 891683)
Saddam had nothing to do with 9/11. There were no weapons of mass destruction currently being built. We went to Iraq because Saddam said some mean things about GW's daddy. Cheney sure did clean up with his Halliburton stock, didn't he? Liz probably did too. All we (and Iraqis) got out of it was ISIS.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: Rinktum 8/25/2021 3:59:00 AM (No. 891684)
I hope that generals going forward know you fight to destroy your enemy. There is no gray areas in war. Defeat or be defeated. It’s an all or nothing game and this pussyfooting around has cost far to many lives and altered the lives of far too many of those, both physically and mentally, who served there. What we have been doing since Vietnam is not working. Our men and women are too valuable to us to be used as pawns in some sick political game.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Subsuburban 8/25/2021 5:48:10 AM (No. 891717)
Thanks... for nothing, dear general. It was nice of you to confess your stupidity, incompetence and lack of adequate oversight, but will you be doing anything about it? Like, for example, forfeiting some or all of your military retirement benefits? You thought a tax should have been imposed on American citizens, many of whom either had nothing to do with your decisions and those of your superiors all the way up the chain of command, so how about putting a little money where your mouth is now? Sorry, but this guy is Exhibit A in the case of Confirmation Bias that afflicted our side in this decades long debacle. We really, really, really wanted the Afghans to be just like us, so we believed we could transform them, but eventually found their answer to all our efforts was a resounding, " Nope." Why is Afghanistan a place where it is always the Seventh Century AD? Because it is full of Afghans who want to live like they did in the Seventh Century AD.
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