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This is Nuts, Moderna and Pfizer Intentionally Lost The
Clinical Trial Control Group Testing Vaccine Efficacy
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Posted By: earlybird, 8/7/2021 1:09:38 PM

This is not just scientific madness, it appears to be very intentional and purposeful. The Moderna and Pfizer vaccine tests were conducted, as customary, with a control group; a group within the trial who were given a placebo and not the test vaccine. However, during the trial -and after the untested vaccines were given emergency use authorization- the vaccine companies conducting the trial decided to break protocol and notify the control group they were not vaccinated. Almost all the control group were then given the vaccine. Purposefully dissolving the placebo group violates the scientific purpose to test whether the vaccine has any efficacy; any actual benefit and/or safety issues.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 8/7/2021 1:13:32 PM (No. 871165)
Too much money to be made to not cheat. Money trumps science.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: GO3 8/7/2021 1:15:33 PM (No. 871166)
How are we to follow the science when they don’t follow the scientific method?
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Reply 3 - Posted by: mc squared 8/7/2021 1:22:16 PM (No. 871175)
It took a year for 'authorities' and the media to admit that covid didn't come from bats or monkeys, but from an NIH funded experiment in Wuhan. Now there is no control group to test the efficacy of the Big Shot.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: franq 8/7/2021 1:25:34 PM (No. 871180)
Just an honest mistake, I'm sure. Nothing to see here, move along and stay in line for your shots and boosters.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: sanspeur 8/7/2021 1:26:15 PM (No. 871181)
when the results were accepted for the shots , the placebo group had them to be “protected “ .It really is scientific to give the null group what they need after the research
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Reply 6 - Posted by: DVC 8/7/2021 1:28:50 PM (No. 871187)
They'll tell you that "we wanted everyone to have the lifesaving benefits of our miraculous vaccine" if you point this out. But is totally blows up the test as any sort of a long term, scientifically valid test. We now won't know that, probably, 65% of the folks in the control group will never get it at all because of pre-existing immunity. Or that of the 35% that MIGHT get it, 99.98% will survive. They REALLY don't want us to know these things. If you have an inquiring mind, look at the big experiment accidentally run on Wuhan closely the Diamond Princess cruise ship events. After weeks of very close mingling of ~3,000 people, many with the disease, partying together, infected food service people, movies, games, dances, buffet dining, etc. without any precautions ---- 65% of the people did not get the virus. IMO, that is a very strong experimental indication that 65%(ish) of the people have pre-existing immunity, almost certainly from other coronaviruses that we have been exposed to. Multiple doctors have mentioned this in online articles, too, but not necessarily referred to the Diamond Princess. Other research shows that many of the folks who "test positive" show clear signs that their body had a "memory type" of immune system response......their immune system had seen something close enough to Wuhan flu that it recognized this virus right away and protected them from it.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Illinois Mom 8/7/2021 1:29:52 PM (No. 871190)
The "science" of this whole mess has been straight out of "The Twilight Zone." I know that the virus is a real thing, and can be very dangerous to some but this is a magical virus that defies all the things we have come to know about how to handle them. Republicans are the only one who can spread it, infecting only innocent Democrats. Rioters and random illegal foreign nationals can get infected but don't spread it. On the other hand, Conservatives, only, spread the virus. They are not allowed to protest because they are much too scary. They cry about "rights." Can they be more stupid? That's why government workers and teacher's union members must stay safe at home collecting their full-time salary The other essential workers, (The ones who actually do something and keep our world running) have been going to work since day one or trying, under the worst circumstances, keep their businesses afloat. A magical virus indeed.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: BRDG 8/7/2021 1:31:37 PM (No. 871192)
I posted right here on Lucianne LAST YEAR that this was not a real clinical trial because the participants KNEW IN ADVANCE they would be notified if they did not get the real vaccine. I was shouted down.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: mean Gene 8/7/2021 1:42:31 PM (No. 871201)
They just went ahead and vaccinated everybody in the "control" group so they could mask forever the fact that Natural Immunity trumps their vaccines' immunity! Now, do they have to start over or will they just get approval, or, (and this is a lot more money for them) do they limp along under "emergency authorization" raking in the dough to the tune of $3 Billion per Quarter?
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Reply 10 - Posted by: vhs68 8/7/2021 1:43:27 PM (No. 871203)
Enjoy..................... I saw an old cartoon with a white coated professor pointing to the blackboard in front of a room full of medical students. On the board was written ” A cured patient is a lost client.” The title of this seemingly accurate little drawing was “The First Day of Medical School”. Two doctors at lunch. 1st doctor: What did you operate on that patient for? 2nd doctor: $50,000 1st doctor: No, I mean what did he have? 2nd doctor: $50,000
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Reply 11 - Posted by: stablemoney 8/7/2021 1:50:48 PM (No. 871211)
Pfizer and Moderna did not complete the trial, and made prognostications that the "vaccine" was 95% effective. Both of them lost it? Both agreed to dispose of it. We then learned that a booster was needed. So it wasn't 95% effective, was it? Now we learn that another shot is needed, and annual shots. Then this, you can still get Covid at the same rate of occurrence as those that did not take the shot. But, but they say it reduces the symptoms? Now they have moved into an answer that cannot be proven right or wrong, like all the wrong answers they have given which have been proven wrong. It like global warming. But it is cold. Now it is climate change. The thing about being a liar is nobody believes anything you say.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: OldDog 8/7/2021 1:54:25 PM (No. 871215)
So... let them die for the sake of your science??!!??? I'll bet the author thought the Tuskegee experiment was good science too.
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Reply 13 - Posted by: IowaDad 8/7/2021 2:04:19 PM (No. 871219)
It’s normal practice to offer a treatment to the no- treatment placebo control group if the data show the treatment is valuable . Otherwise, the placebo group is denied a valuable treatment. This report is just inflammatory click bait
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Reply 14 - Posted by: Come And Take It 8/7/2021 2:16:52 PM (No. 871233)
Since our resident Vax Karen (#14) is back, I would like him to detail his medical and scientific credentials so that I might judge whether I am being gaslighted or not. You have the floor, #14. Wow us with your professional credentials, and convince those of us who remain highly skeptical why we should disregard the mountains of evidence emerging that we have been snookered. I would also appreciate a detailed explanation (not just links to self-serving crap by Pfizer or Moderna or the CDC) about the process of being able to determine the difference between some generic flu, COVID Alpha, COVID Delta, COVID Delta Plus, COVID Lambda, and such. Please show your work.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: red1066 8/7/2021 2:35:45 PM (No. 871254)
Maybe it was the demosluts that made the control group get the vaccine.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: Anti_democRAT 8/7/2021 2:48:34 PM (No. 871268)
Even more reason to reject the jab. No double blind test data available. The original data showd it was very hard to get covid in the first place. Something like 9 jabbed got covid and 19 that didnt get the jab got covid out of the whole test group of 10s of thousands.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Strike3 8/7/2021 3:00:31 PM (No. 871275)
Nothing happens in the pharmaceutical industry without multiple signatures and five copies of everything, trust me. They are hiding something.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: slipstik 8/7/2021 3:38:35 PM (No. 871302)
No #18. They're hiding EVERYTHING!
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Reply 19 - Posted by: Geoman 8/7/2021 4:42:14 PM (No. 871351)
The key take-away from the article is found about a quarter way through the Comments following the article in the form of a video interview with a Dr. Martin by a German commission that fully explains the provenance of the CCP virus and the development of vaccines which, through a review of US patents, is proven to pre-date the CCP virus outbreak by many years. Gates, Fauci, Moderna, Phizer,, are shown to be complicit in the weaponization of the corona virus and its intentional release. The media campaign around the "new normal" was birthed in 2004. I seldom watch videos, preferring to read information and suffering from poor rural bandwidth, and the embedded video is long but hugely compelling and causes a number of bulbs to light up as to the magnitude of the COVID/vaccine conspiracy and the key players involved. Fauci was informed by the US Patent Office that the vaccines being proposed and developed under various patents did not meet the legal requirements for a vaccine. Fauci's outfit overroad the patent denial and forged ahead in developing "vaccines," that were classified as "bioweapons" as far back as 2005. All of the "variants," including the dreaded Delta, are non-existent but are part of a federally sponsored coercion campaign to push the vaccines and hideously enrich the developers and investors of said vaccines. On top of the charade is the complicit media.
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Reply 20 - Posted by: gop_guys 8/7/2021 6:07:24 PM (No. 871407)
With all due respect 14, guessing you’ve had the jab?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Come And Take It 8/7/2021 11:34:28 PM (No. 871575)
Hey #22 - Now that CDC admitted today that the 'vaccine' doesn't work publicly on CNN, perhaps you will explain why you continue to berate those that appear to have been right about being suspicious all along. CDC now says the 'vaccine' doesn't prevent infection, and doesn't prevent transmission. So, it may be here to stay, as is the collateral damage it caused to thousands of people. I can understand buyer's remorse if you got suckered into taking this, but you can cease and desist with the high and mighty 'I am vaxxed and you aren't' crapola at any time. You made your choice, and now you can live with it, sweating the thought year after year that you damaged yourself by listening to the government push something with a doggedness all out of proportion with the risk. As to not being impressed, I have to tell you that I likely won't lose much sleep over that factoid.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: mindsport 8/8/2021 12:01:02 AM (No. 871587)
Seriously? it would be an outrage if they didn’t tell them they weren’t vaccinated. Come on people think!
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Reply 23 - Posted by: DVC 8/8/2021 3:15:14 AM (No. 871630)
#24, do you realize that your pre-condition for your "outrage" is the unsaid and unwarranted assumption that The Shot is beneficial and not harmful? Could it be because they keep calling it a "vaccination" and we have been conditioned out whole lives to just KNOW that 'vaccinations' are good? Like if you called a new food "ice cream", well pretty much everyone would think it would be good. But what if they later found out it wasn't made with cream, or sugar, and it wasn't was a NEW KIND of "ice cream", made from liver and onions? Fraudulent names can make you expect something different than what is delivered. The intent of the test was to find out if The Shot was beneficial or harmful. They decided VERY prematurely that it was SO wonderful, SO harmless and SO beneficial that they ended the study......WAY before any meaningful results were in, and then gave EVERYONE The Shot, thereby wrecking the whole scientific test for the longer term. We have no control group now to validate that they are not having all the problems that those who have gotten The Shot are having, like deaths, 12,000, heart problems, heart attacks, blood clotting disorders, etc, etc, etc. No unharmed control group left to statistically verify these problems don't happen as often to those who didn't get The Shot. Now convenient for the Big Pharma folks.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: mindsport 8/8/2021 10:36:24 AM (No. 871827)
#25 Really? These people had already Volunteered to take it!!!
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