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You Were Warned: Automakers
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Posted By: RockyTCB, 8/6/2021 6:11:11 AM

In eight years, half of American car buyers will be forced to purchase overpriced, underperforming electric cars they don’t want, courtesy of the federal government and a compliant auto industry. That, at least, is what President Joe Biden announced at the White House on Thursday, and it’s just as we predicted in this space three months ago. With a wave of his pen, Biden ordered that 50% of new cars and trucks sold by 2030 are to be electric. Since the auto companies already have their 2022 model year cars in production, that means they have less than eight years

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Reply 1 - Posted by: GreatGreyhounds 8/6/2021 6:19:21 AM (No. 869771)
Just means more space on the roads for the limousine liberals, at least those who don’t own private jets…
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Reply 2 - Posted by: bassman 8/6/2021 6:29:24 AM (No. 869777)
Just because the automakers build them doesn't mean we are going to buy them!
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Reply 3 - Posted by: GO3 8/6/2021 6:33:28 AM (No. 869781)
There's a difference between coercing automakers to produce a certain kind of vehicle and actually selling them. Ordering 50% sold by 2030 is meaningless. From my post yesterday, we are overflowing with vehicles in this country. Customers need to get smart on basic maintenance and buy used. And don't fall for the Cash for Clunkers program which I think will be repeated in the near future.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Red Jeep 8/6/2021 6:43:25 AM (No. 869785)
Will we become another Cuba holding on to our old gas guzzlers as long as we can?
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Reply 5 - Posted by: skacmar 8/6/2021 7:02:33 AM (No. 869802)
Electric cars use a lot of electronic parts and computer chips. Ho produces them? Not the US. Look at new car lots today. Empty due to no computer chips. Every car dealer near me has empty lots. The metals for the electronic components will need to come from China. Thank you Biden administration for making yet another US industrial sector dependent on China. Also, where will all of the electricity come from? Biden gave away our energy independence.
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Reply 6 - Posted by: Knotwyrkin 8/6/2021 7:02:56 AM (No. 869803)
While I intend to keep my Internal Combustion Engine as long as possible, I am sure the Democrats are planning on making gasoline impossible to buy.
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Reply 7 - Posted by: Bur Oak 8/6/2021 7:24:53 AM (No. 869823)
There won't be enough electricity to charge the electric cars and keep the lights on in the house. You will also need to by a generator in addition to the electric car.
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Reply 8 - Posted by: stablemoney 8/6/2021 7:25:22 AM (No. 869825)
Toyota has been at the WH trying to explain this will not work.
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Reply 9 - Posted by: F15 Gork 8/6/2021 7:28:39 AM (No. 869828)
Yeah, give me one of those electric jobs. You know, the ones you can’t keep in the garage lest it spontaneously combust and burn your house to the ground.
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Come And Take It 8/6/2021 7:29:38 AM (No. 869830)
All those electric vehicles will collapse the nation's electrical grid long before they reach 1/2 ownership.
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Reply 11 - Posted by: Daisymay 8/6/2021 7:32:35 AM (No. 869834)
I live in Florida. Can you imagine during Hurricane Season, when the warning comes out to evacuate and all the Roads are turned to the North? Can you see Charging stations along those Interstates and Hi-Ways being handy when you have cars lined up at a standstill for hours? Nope! Me either! What a mess that would be!
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Reply 12 - Posted by: 5 handicap 8/6/2021 7:47:11 AM (No. 869846)
Time to Boycott Ford and any other treasonous manufacturer!
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Reply 13 - Posted by: hoosierblue 8/6/2021 7:50:09 AM (No. 869850)
Total garbage. Our electrical infrastructure barely supports us now. No way will it support all electric cars unless we go to many new nuclear plants and new electrical infrastructure. Before we ever would get close to that even then the idiot left will see that it is causing more damage to the earth than the benefits it is supposed to provide.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: hershey 8/6/2021 8:01:29 AM (No. 869859)
Hold onto what you have now....those electrics aren't much good for long road trips...may local to the store but not the road...Biteme is doing his best to shut us all down..and that crap on tax by mile on page 508 of the infrastructure bill, is just bull....any Republican who votes for that needs to be run out of town on a rail after tar and feathers are applied...they ought to rename it the 'Dumbocrap leftist wish list'....
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Reply 15 - Posted by: udanja99 8/6/2021 8:12:58 AM (No. 869876)
Not only can our electric grid not handle them now, but where are they going to mine all of the rare minerals needed for those batteries and other parts? Not to mention the coal needed to provide electricity. I thought that eco-wackos were against mining.
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Reply 16 - Posted by: wilarrbie 8/6/2021 8:13:45 AM (No. 869877)
Too bad he didn't mandate that those cars have the capability to fly, like in the futuristic Blade Runner movies. I'd buy one of them! Electric putt-putt overgrown golf cart - not so much tho.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bazi 8/6/2021 8:25:28 AM (No. 869889)
#7- A big loud GAS powered generator.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: Blue-Z-Anna 8/6/2021 8:34:37 AM (No. 869903)
Dems should stick to imaginary problems and leave engineering and the hard sciences alone. Simple facts like the 'Conservation of Energy' suggest that many more large electric motors will require more energy producing facilities. Nukes are the best but are dismissed as being yucky and spooky.
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Reply 19 - Posted by: montwoodcliff 8/6/2021 8:42:09 AM (No. 869915)
Another case of not thinking this through. Electric cars are the “cause du jour”. Tomorrow, it will be something else. The auto manufacturers will love this because they will be selling cars with much fewer parts for the same price, if not more for the comparable IC engine car. And who is going to wait a half hour at a charging station. Can anyone picture the long lines of cars waiting their turn at a “pump”?
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Reply 20 - Posted by: Phantomll 8/6/2021 8:45:58 AM (No. 869920)
What #11 said.
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Reply 21 - Posted by: Strike3 8/6/2021 8:50:04 AM (No. 869927)
This too will fail. Internal combustion engine cars made today will last twenty five years or more so Joe will be dead and gone to hell before electric cars are accepted by the American people. Those who buy electric cars now soon realize the drawbacks and quietly get rid of them unless they are city-dwelling snowflakes and can plug them in after every 20 mile trip. The main weakness in forcing those exploding skateboards on people is that people must voluntarily buy them. My Toyota and Kawasaki will be running long after I'm gone.
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Reply 22 - Posted by: skacmar 8/6/2021 8:59:14 AM (No. 869937)
Apparently only UNION AUTOMAKERS vehicles with little to no mile range get to team up with Biden. They also asked for big subsidies. Tesla was snubbed as was new long range auto maker Lucid. If Biden really wanted to promote electric vehicles, all electric vehicle manufacturers would have been represented.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: Laotzu 8/6/2021 9:17:33 AM (No. 869969)
So incredibly DC- and coastal-centric.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: bigfatslob 8/6/2021 9:18:44 AM (No. 869970)
The good news, fraudster Joe Biden probably won't be around to witness the wave of his pen for making glorified golf carts for public consumption by 2030.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: seamusm 8/6/2021 9:18:49 AM (No. 869971)
I am SO damn tired of the White House occupant acting as if it was constitutionally the legislative branch of government.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: NamVet70 8/6/2021 9:22:16 AM (No. 869974)
Of course Dementia Joe doesn't really care whether this is even workable because he probably won't be alive in 2030 and he certainly won't be sentient then even if he is still breathing.
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Reply 27 - Posted by: NamVet70 8/6/2021 9:30:50 AM (No. 869985)
Actually this is just a way to reward those who market to the elite city dwellers who like to use their electric car to virtue signal. The wealthy can lease seven electric cars and drive a different one each day of the week, allowing the others plenty of time on the charger. They will even have a plausible excuse for acquiring a garage collection of electric cars to rival Jay Leno's. As others have said, the cost of fuel and parts for the a serf to keep his old jalopy running will keep him too busy to aspire to compete with the chosen few. Our streets will look much like those of Cuba, with 50 year old gasoline cars the norm. No sane person will actually buy an electric car because the economic life of the car is only the useful life of the battery. Once the battery dies, you might as well push the car to the side of the road and abandon it there.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: mc squared 8/6/2021 9:37:41 AM (No. 869995)
Those of us who wouldn't touch electrics will be priced out of conventional cars to force us to buy the EVs. Gas at $10 maybe? $300 to fill my F150? But as another poster said, there will be another Cash-For-Clunkers so you can crush your perfectly running 5 year old gas car for an EV credit. If you haven't seen the tongue in cheek movie ' Idiocracy', give it a try.
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Reply 29 - Posted by: NamVet70 8/6/2021 9:41:30 AM (No. 869998)
Toyota, as far as I have seen, is the only auto company with an executive team that understands that electric automobiles are not practical except for a limited subset of users. I have always chosen to buy American automobiles, but now Ford, GM and others have gone too far into the fantasy world of green unicorns and fairy dust in their belief that if it doesn't have an exhaust pipe it must be good and that CO2 (which is necessary for life on this planet) must be evil. I suspect the next car I buy may be a Toyota or a Lexus. Even my wife is very unhappy with Buick because they don't even make any sedans like she prefers to drive. Almost every day I see that more of the companies I used to prefer are now running ads that seem calculated to make me angry at them.
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Reply 30 - Posted by: NorthernDog 8/6/2021 9:42:57 AM (No. 870000)
When I was a kid the average car was the size of a brontosaurus. I remember the interiors were cavernous and you could practically sit inside the hood to work on the engine. A part of me misses those days.
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Reply 31 - Posted by: cor-vet 8/6/2021 9:47:06 AM (No. 870006)
I guess I'll see how long I can keep my two classic gas burners running. The 'Cruiser' club, of older guys with restored classics, will probably still be driving when the electrics are dead on the side of the road.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: NamVet70 8/6/2021 9:49:38 AM (No. 870007)
I can see a business opportunity here for "remanufacturing" existing models of gasoline and diesel powered cars. Most gasoline cars, if properly maintained, can easily go more than 200,000 miles. You used to see loyal Mercedes owners with a grille filled with milestone badges because the car they liked didn't really need to be replaced every couple of years. Of course these cars would probably demonstrate better fit and finish than the new stuff in today's showrooms.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: NamVet70 8/6/2021 9:52:23 AM (No. 870009)
By the time this mandate is effective, the problems it is causing in electricity shortages will be so evident that it will be reversed and there will be incentives to promote the sale of gasoline powered cars.
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Reply 34 - Posted by: red1066 8/6/2021 10:09:18 AM (No. 870030)
Future headline. Automakers seek billions of dollars from government to prevent bankruptcy due to slow sales of electric vehicles. Or, Car dealerships failing at record rate as new car sales tank.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: moebellini3 8/6/2021 10:10:15 AM (No. 870034)
It only means the auto industry will be out of business. Electric cars are nothing more than toys for the elites. Take them out for a short spin around the block then park them and get into their real, gas powered cars, and go on a trip without restrictions...Get it yet. ..
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Reply 36 - Posted by: wilarrbie 8/6/2021 10:11:31 AM (No. 870037)
LOL #30 - that's nuthin' compared to what you could do in the back seat!
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Reply 37 - Posted by: dst4life 8/6/2021 10:43:28 AM (No. 870085)
And how does the Xiden regime expect the citizens of the United States to pay for these unaffordable electric vehicles? Have we not been conditioned to go from point A to point B in a timely manner? Haven't we been conditioned to have lots of information available to us in a split second? Yet we are being asked to buy a vehicle that will add hours to days to our journey from point A to point B. The government will need to SUBSIDIZE their agenda. "Oh, no," you say. "They will NEVER do that." Really? Look at what they are now subsidizing--paying off student loans, medical insurance, eviction moratoriums, and on and on. We're going broke.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: LadyHen 8/6/2021 10:49:25 AM (No. 870094)
American car culture = freedom. Has since the beginning. This necessity is a hold over from the days of horses in this vast land. There was a reason horse thieves were hanged. Stealing a man's horse could easily mean death for the man and his family. Now we have modern day "horse thieves" in DC.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: ROLFNader 8/6/2021 12:07:49 PM (No. 870187)
Elon Musk couldn't afford a bottle rocket if not for the govt allowing him to sell " energy credits to other auto mfgrs that aren't having to make electric jokemobiles.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: DVC 8/6/2021 12:38:33 PM (No. 870223)
In the last 8 or 10 years, Ford has had a huge display of their cars at the big airshow at Oshkosh each July. In the past they had F150s, rally cars, racing cars and hot Mustangs and very interesting cutaway engines on display. This year....some stupid electric SUV with a Mustang badge glued on the front was all that was there, no engine displays, just this stupid electric SUV. I heard many say "that's not a Mustang" or "just because they stuck a badge on it, doesn't make it a Mustang" There were normally lots of people crowded in the big Ford tent....very few people there this year, just walk in, glance around and walk out. They lie about the shot, they lie about the election, they lie about Jan 6, and now they lie about an electric SUV being a Mustang. People aren't buying the lies. I'll bet that these foolish electric SUV's, badged as Mustangs, will sell like flip-flops in January in Nome.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: janjan 8/6/2021 4:02:16 PM (No. 870402)
These cars rely on lithium batteries. 70% of the world’s lithium supply comes from China. There’s your connection.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: ladydawgfan 8/6/2021 5:01:40 PM (No. 870449)
Re #30: my first car was my late grandfather's hand-me-down '65 Chrysler Newport. Roughly the size of a small barge, it had an engine compartment like you described as well as a trunk so huge that my dad could have garaged his '81 Dodge Champlain in it!! It had red "tuck and roll" upholstery and a steering wheel about the size of a trash can lid. I absolutely LOVED driving that car!! I drive Toyota cars exclusively nowadays. My first was my '93 Previa which had more than 342,000 miles on the odometer when I had to turn her in. Her engine still had plenty of life left (some Previas have gone over a million miles!), but I lived in Vermont at the time and their latest stick-in-the-butt state inspection laws required that I invest more than $9,000 to restore her before they would renew my registration. I drive a Corolla now. Someone said it best: you can't kill a Toyota unless you try to teach it to swim!!
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Reply 43 - Posted by: ladydawgfan 8/6/2021 5:07:29 PM (No. 870452)
*Dodge CHAMP!! (Stupid autocorrect!!)
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Reply 44 - Posted by: Folsomguy 8/6/2021 6:08:26 PM (No. 870498)
Where is all this electric power going to come from. We can't get any now in California. How are going to drive more than 500 miles a day?
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California’s recall election may be an exercise in futility unless voters put in safeguards to stop a downloadable ballot system from leading to ballot harvesting in order to keep unpopular Governor Gavin Newsom in office.The “Remote Accessible Ballots for Eligible Voters” is being touted by California Secretary of State Shirley Weber as a way for voters to download ballots in the “comfort of their own home.”“For the November 3, 2020 General Election, any voter can request to use Remote Accessible Vote by Mail,” the Secretary of State’s website states.
Obama Is Building An Opulent ‘Presidential
Center’ In Chicago. It’s Not In A Poor, Black,
Or Environmentally Friendly Neighborhood
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Posted by AltaD 8/8/2021 1:58:47 PM Post Reply
Former President Barack Obama dialed back his planned 700-person birthday bash, set to take place this weekend, after sustained criticism for the large-scale gathering at a time when Democrats are telling ordinary Americans to hunker down or wear masks. But that’s just the tip of the hypocrisy iceberg. Obama is using his birthday to raise funds for his planned “presidential center,”(Snip)Chicago, which has massive pension debt and an impoverished tax base, agreed to essentially give the land to the private group in the form of a 99-year “land use agreement” for a sum of $10. Epstein estimates the value of the land at $200 million.
Trump Vows To Withhold Support From
Republicans Who Vote for ‘Disgraceful’
$1.2B Infrastructure
Bill
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Posted by Imright 8/8/2021 11:12:15 AM Post Reply
Former President Donald Trump pledged to withhold financial support and endorsement backing from any Republican who voted to support a massive, expensive infrastructure spending bill that contains several controversial provisions and will serve as a gateway to an even larger bill featuring a left-wing wish list of packages.The former president’s threat to withhold support follows a 67-27 vote on Saturday in which the Senate advanced the $1.2 trillion spending measure.Eighteen Republicans joined 49 Democrats to advance the legislation for further debate and negotiations, far surpassing the 60-vote filibuster threshold.
Senators Launch Effort to Expand Federal
Bench by 77 Judges
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Posted by Imright 8/8/2021 5:10:55 PM Post Reply
Sens. Todd Young (R-IN) and Chris Coons (D-DE) introduced a bill last month that would expand the federal judiciary by 77 judges, starting in 2025, after the current presidential term.Democrats have been expressing a wish to expand the number of Supreme Court justices, so that President Joe Biden can appoint four new justices to override the current 6-3 majority of Republican appointees. Some have advocated a milder approach, expanding the lower courts first.The new bill, called the Judicial Understaffing Delays Getting Emergencies Solved (JUDGES) Act, says that “The Judicial Conference of the United States requested the creation of 77 new district judges in its 2021 report,”
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