Pool contractor photographed damaged garage 36
hours before Florida condo fell
New York Post,
by
Yaron Steinbuch
Original Article
Posted By: ladydawgfan,
7/2/2021 2:02:43 AM
Troubling photographs taken by a contractor in the basement garage of the Champlain Towers South condo 36 hours before it collapsed reveal cracked concrete, exposed and severely corroded rebar and pools of water on the floor.
“There was standing water all over the parking garage,” the commercial pool contractor, who snapped the startling images, told the Miami Herald.
The contractor, who asked not to be named, visited the building last week to prepare a bid for cosmetic work on the pool and to provide the cost of new equipment as part of a multimillion-dollar restoration project at the 40-year-old structure, the outlet reported.
With $17 million in structural repairs needed management was more concerned about cosmetic pool repairs.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
planetgeo 7/2/2021 4:50:10 AM (No. 833291)
I'm not a structural engineer but those pictures indicate more than just normal maintenance issues and cosmetic repairs. The dark linear discolorations show obvious corrosion of the rebar, and the reports of constant intrusion of seawater to the below ground level spaces should have sent alarm bells to any competent engineer who inspected that place. I suspect that every beachfront condo Board is now on high alert if they have any similar signs that they have been deferring action on. If not, they should be.
I have served on such boards and unfortunately this is exactly the type of very expensive remediation issue that owners refuse to support special assessments for until it's too late.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
lakerman1 7/2/2021 6:56:52 AM (No. 833344)
If you own a private aircraft, it is recommended that you set up a bank ac ount to pay for engine and airframe work, required by the FAA, based on hours of flying.
Perhaps condo associations should be required to do that.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
BarryNo 7/2/2021 7:04:25 AM (No. 833347)
Sounds like a Democrat landlord, al right.
A million dollars in maintenance fees, every year, and no maintenance.
No wonder Biden claimed Global Warming...
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
F15 Gork 7/2/2021 7:26:14 AM (No. 833367)
I believe the Bible offered some guidance about building on rock instead of sand.....
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
jj1319 7/2/2021 7:36:31 AM (No. 833384)
Not a structural engineer either, but the pictures are not large enough to shed light on obvious issues. With all due respect to #2, the linear discoloration could readily be described as mold caused by standing moisture which is common in areas exposed to frequent leaks. What I do notice is that the plumbing in that space appears to be very sloppily done. Could be distortion caused by the lens. There are steel pipe hangers supporting the overhead pipes. Given their ferrous composition, if they showed signs if advanced oxidation, that would be indicative of flowing water, whether from the atmosphere, pool or the ocean.
I was expecting to see revealing pictures exposing voids and signs of structural decay. I simply don't see that here. I have seen plenty of sloppy work and this falls into that category. Also, depending on the brand, 2 year life of a pump may be common.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Aud 7/2/2021 7:42:55 AM (No. 833389)
It appears to me that people who owned spaces in that building were facing financial ruin. $80,000 special assessment for recommended repairs was the minimum amount that every owner faced, and that was for a 1-bedroom apartment! I would much rather continue living in my old house and suffer cold winters.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Skinnydip 7/2/2021 7:58:04 AM (No. 833401)
The hidden costs of condo ownership turn deadly.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Zigrid 7/2/2021 8:15:08 AM (No. 833417)
I owe you all an apology... I stated many days ago that I thought it was a well timed bombing to draw attention away from nervous nancy and sleepy joe in DC...but these photos show damage that was structural...it should have been repaired years ago...the problem with condo boards is that no one wants to be the "bad" guy and nothing gets done...WE have a tough board and I bake cookies for them to keep them happy...
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
stevendm 7/2/2021 9:06:40 AM (No. 833472)
3..2..1. Queue the blame on global warming and climate change.
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#10 And rising oceans. Maybe the rising water came from the swimming pool.
Those responsible should be jailed. That would send a message to these management groups.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
oldmagnolia 7/2/2021 9:40:24 AM (No. 833506)
The only ones to blame here are the condo owners. They knew it for years but didn't want to spend the money since the assessments were very expensive. Add that to the already expensive mortgage they probably all have.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
harleynyc 7/2/2021 9:52:11 AM (No. 833519)
The question of where swimming pools should be placed is settled as far as I am concerned. On the ground.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
snowoutlaw 7/2/2021 12:11:15 PM (No. 833662)
Saw these pictures a few days ago. Concrete/rebar construction is great as long as the rebar is supported by concrete. Concrete is good in compression loads, rebar is good in tension loads, together they make the perfect pair. Failures often occur when the concrete cracks and permits water to rust the rebar. Usually most of such damage is not visible but this picture clearly shows exposed rebar that is very rusty. That rebar and concrete is now worthless as a structural part of the building. Question is how deep does that damage go?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
NorthernDog 7/2/2021 12:25:15 PM (No. 833674)
That contractor must have chills going down his spine. If the collapse had been just a couple days earlier he would have been obliterated under the debris.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 7/2/2021 12:37:45 PM (No. 833698)
How heartbreaking! There is probably enough blame to go around and some to spare. Rebar people know rebar; pool people know pools, storm people know storms, contractors know contracting. This ''choir wasn't singing from the same music.'' I majored in music and I know NONE of this stuff. But loss of life is a familiar topic if you have lived on Earth long enough. What a grievous thing to happen!
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 7/2/2021 4:24:27 PM (No. 833928)
Who owns the building, it was their responsibility.
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I know that we have structural engineers and others in the building trades here at LCom. I am curious to read their comments on these photos.