US military guns keep vanishing—
and showing up in street crimes
Associated Press,
by
Staff
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
6/15/2021 6:03:08 PM
In the first public accounting of its kind in decades, an Associated Press investigation has found that at least 1,900 U.S. military firearms were lost or stolen during the 2010s, with some resurfacing in violent crimes. And that’s certainly an undercount. Government records covering the Army, Marine Corps, Navy and Air Force show pistols, machine guns, shotguns and automatic assault rifles have vanished from armories, supply warehouses, Navy warships and elsewhere. These weapons of war disappeared because of security failures that, until now, have not been publicly reported, including sleeping troops and a surveillance system that didn’t record.(Snip) While AP’s focus was firearms, military explosives also
Reply 1 - Posted by:
bad-hair 6/15/2021 6:17:07 PM (No. 816887)
And they are showing up in all those white supremacist street crimes right ? Oh the Ghetto crimes and the MS-13 crimes and such ?
Stupid article but, ya know, AP.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Bur Oak 6/15/2021 6:39:30 PM (No. 816897)
How many have the FBI, ATF, and Federal Marshall agents lost in the same time period?
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Vaquero45 6/15/2021 6:44:59 PM (No. 816904)
Any time a writer talks about “automatic assault rifles” and “bullet casings”, you can be sure he hasn’t the slightest idea what he is talking about.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
voxpopuli 6/15/2021 6:49:09 PM (No. 816908)
go to the SOURCE of the problem..
the judges, attorneys and parole officers
who let them on the street..
immediate imprisonment for all involved in these crimes..
oh.. yeah.. put the criminal in with them..
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In the '90s the VA had a problem with weapons vanishing from its police department lockers. In cities like Chicago and Los Angeles the suspicion was that gangs had infiltrated, recruiting "clean" members to apply for jobs and able to pass the background checks. For awhile, perhaps even today, applicants are screened for tattoos and other markings, besides the backgrounds and other checks. This stuff is serious...and it's not any part of a "white supremacy" effort.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Geoman 6/15/2021 6:53:03 PM (No. 816914)
As a veteran I hate to think it much less say it but there are probably more gang bangers in the Army than in Los Angeles County and they are not just low ranking enlisted. I don't mean to pick on the Army because they infiltrated all branches of our military. Who can forget the picture taken at a West Point graduation when Obama was C-i-C, and the graduating cadet proudly displayed his Muslim jihadi creds on the inside of his dress uniform cover. At the end of the day, he was a freshly minted 2nd lieutenant in our U.S. Army. I'm sure Obama was proud and only regrets not being able to promote him to Lieutenant General before giving way to President Trump.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
GO3 6/15/2021 7:05:16 PM (No. 816924)
In the day, if one weapon went missing the unit went on lockdown until it was found. Sometimes the whole post would be closed. We can fabricate conspiracy theories about this, but no/low security resulting in weapons theft was a career ender. Transportation of weapons can also be a risky proposition. There was a semi-load of M-60 machine guns which pulled up outside our military office, which was several miles away from main post. He had no clue where to go until we set him straight. If he had done that at the nearest ruck stop all of those guns many have disappeared. Second example: in the 70s in West Germany, an ordnance command sent a lone driver a couple of hundred kms with a truckload of Hawk ADA missiles without directions or a strip map to resupply a battery in northern Bavaria. The driver got lost and ended up at a border crossing where the German Border Patrol thankfully checked and notified the nearest Army border patrol. They impounded the truck and made the commander report to our commander for the appropriate ass-chewing before he would let him have the truck. I wouldn't be surprised if the number of weapons mentioned in the article are undercounted.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
Luandir 6/15/2021 7:26:21 PM (No. 816935)
"Only the government should have guns."
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
dwa 6/15/2021 8:01:34 PM (No. 816955)
And right on que, here comes the AP pushing Democrat talking points that the military is full of white supremacists who are obviously stealing guns for the coming revolt. You can damn near set your watch by these idiots and their propaganda and when it will arrive.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Condor44 6/15/2021 9:45:12 PM (No. 817025)
This also happened in the late 60's during the black riots in the cities.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
chumley 6/15/2021 9:49:16 PM (No. 817032)
Darn. They made me give mine back. Didn't know I could keep it.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
TarAndFeathers 6/15/2021 10:53:29 PM (No. 817064)
And the expected Democrat remedy?
Disarm the miltary, of course!
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
bighambone 6/16/2021 12:12:07 AM (No. 817122)
Well is sure is not mysterious “White Supremacists” who are stealing firearms from military bases and selling them in the Democrat run big cities that are being used by inner city minority criminal gangs and individuals to create havoc. More instances of Black people shooting other Black people with illegal or stolen guns. Of course the leftist and socialist Democrat politicians who run those cities claim they are all for more gun control even though common sense will tell them that criminals and those with criminal or terrorist intents do not obey gun control laws, and they sure don’t need any new laws to investigate and seize any firearms that are US Government property that were stolen from military bases where all small arms, pistols and rifles, are secured in unit arms rooms where they are accounted for on a routine secure basis.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
PostAway 6/16/2021 12:28:29 AM (No. 817135)
#6, I think you are referring to Spenser Rapone, a radical Islam sympathizer who is also a Communist. At his West Point graduation the red t-shirt he revealed under his dress tunic sported a picture of Che Guevara and inside his cap he had a handwritten sign that read “Communism will win”. Besides his clothing he also wore inappropriately long hair and a smirk which were joined by his boney raised middle finger in a selfie he took outside the gates of Ft. Drum after his expulsion from the Army.
He did service in Afghanistan as an enlisted man and a Ranger, clearly a tough and able soldier but entered WP with doubts about the ethics of the Army’s mission in the Middle East. Once at WP he was aided in reaching radicalism by an Islamic professor and other instructors.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
lakerman1 6/16/2021 6:12:59 AM (No. 817236)
Did the article how locations of the missing? One would expect losses to greater in combat zones than stateside.
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