Biden faces pressure to drive gasoline
and diesel cars out of the US
Guardian [U.K.],
by
Oliver Milman
Original Article
Posted By: NorthernDog,
4/30/2021 8:29:37 AM
Joe Biden’s administration, seeking deep cuts to planet-heating emissions, is facing pressure to take a previously unthinkable step: declare the end of the internal combustion engine in the US. Washington state has moved to call time on the age of gasoline and diesel cars, with the legislature passing a goal that new car sales be only zero-emission vehicles from 2030, including out of state purchases that are then imported. The legislation now awaits to signature of Governor Jay Inslee, a Democrat who previously ran for president on the climate crisis platform. While not a strict mandate, the Washington bill is
Reply 1 - Posted by:
aasilver 4/30/2021 8:44:05 AM (No. 771429)
The 'destroy America' crowd is at it again.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Blue-Z-Anna 4/30/2021 8:48:08 AM (No. 771435)
Eternal motion machines require Skittles Pooping Unicorns. Touchy-Feely, Hippie Effing energy notions may require more Beta Testing.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
dst4life 4/30/2021 8:48:11 AM (No. 771436)
How many of us can afford a $55,000 electric vehicle? Oh, I get it. Electric vehicles are now part of "infrastructure," so the government will pay everyone to buy a car. How does a 100 trillion dollar debt sound, folks? When Biden is done with us, we will be paying at least twenty dollars per gallon of gas, if not more.
The future's so bright, I gotta wear . . . . shades!!
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
MattMusson1 4/30/2021 8:48:57 AM (No. 771437)
If EVERY Country in the Paris Accords, actually kept it's promise and met it's climate goals, the net result would be one quarter of a degree difference in 100 years.
And, that is within the margin of error of the models. So, the effects would be unidentifiable.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
petrichor 4/30/2021 9:00:31 AM (No. 771451)
Pretty sure that would have prevented me from bringing my fire-breathing vehicle into Washington when I moved here. How about the farmers and boaters who dare to use gasoline or diesel?
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Bluefindad 4/30/2021 9:04:46 AM (No. 771456)
Let us drive gas vehicles if we want to and build stable, reliable nuclear generators for electric needs. Fourth generation reactors are incredibly safe and do not consume vast quantities of land area like wind and solar.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
NamVet70 4/30/2021 9:26:53 AM (No. 771485)
Mandating electric vehicles by 2030 is starting to sound like the old USSR five year plans. This country would be like Cuba where anyone who drives anything is driving a 50 year old automobile.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
sanspeur 4/30/2021 9:27:47 AM (No. 771486)
#6 i think this is a plot to rid of of all those nuisance birds flying around ..like eagles ,hawks & other beasts of the air .Of course this country ( are we still one or a doormat ?) is building ZERO nukes cause , green and i am very virtuous!
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Pearson365 4/30/2021 9:30:47 AM (No. 771487)
A. Do we have to establish incredibly expensive and incredibly meaningless policies based on gross exaggerations if not lies? Until Biden and his leftists are able to explain what the crisis in climate is (they can’t) and how making us poorer and less free prevents this crisis, we need to reject these attempts to control every aspect of our lives,
B. Since Dementia Joe is likely to issue an executive order to ban the sale of new gasoline and diesel powered cars and trucks by 2035, long after he expires, what is to be done with the 275 to 300 million gasoline and diesel vehicles in use? Does the EPA ban gasoline and diesel fuels in order to force us to stop using them? Or, do we end up like Cuba. with hundreds of million of old cars in use, with only the wealthy and government officials driving electric cars which will be built in China?
C. What about boats, airplanes, trains, construction equipment, ships and big trucks?
D. Will we also have to replace oil and natural gas/propane fired furnaces, hot water heaters, dryers, generators to meet this leftist lie? If we are given a date when petroleum and nat gas availability has to cease, we will stop replacing cars, trucks and more well before the mandated shutoff date, causing an economic catastrophe.
But Joe and the Dems know best.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
sw penn 4/30/2021 9:46:03 AM (No. 771503)
Please.
You will not be driving old cars.
You will not get insurance on your "50 Year Old" car.
You will not be allowed to renew the registration on your "50 Year Old" car.
They will remove gas stations.
So, you won't be paying anything for gas.
There won't be any for you.
You will be on public transportation, or
you will be a prisoner in your home.
Your "home" will be a high rise Hong Hong bird cage.
near to public transportation.
In accordance with Agenda 21.
Because no one will buy your "house in the country".
because no one will be able to get to it.
These are the choices you are allowing to be made for you right now.
Like them? No?
Then YOU will have to force the people who are making these choices for you to change.
Or, YOU will have change the people who are making these choices for you.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
bighambone 4/30/2021 9:46:17 AM (No. 771504)
Well how is that going to happen when there will not be enough electricity generated by way of solar and windmills to charge all the new vehicles batteries? What if there is a power failure in an area that lasts days? Looks like Biden is really intent on making China rich with the USA only able to generate energy at about the 1909 era level.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
paral04 4/30/2021 9:46:49 AM (No. 771508)
So, what are their plans to increase the power grid throughout the US to support all these vehicles? Let's say it will be done, What is the rest of the world going to do for their part? I doubt if India, China, Russia, the African continent and Latin America will do the same. If anyone has looked lately, China is building more coal powered electric generator. These people really want to put our country out of business. What is their motivation for this?
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
Strike3 4/30/2021 10:13:49 AM (No. 771527)
Ambitious idiots promise the Leftists anything to get elected without admitting that their stupid fantasies are impossible without turning the world upside down. Yes, Biden is that stupid but he will promise the conversion to electric cars will take place long after he is dead and will not have to answer for his catastrophic failures.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Califedup 4/30/2021 10:14:29 AM (No. 771530)
Time to start asking the grim reality question - Where will our country be at this time next year when all of the communist death democrats laws, mandates, imperial decrees have taken effect? Massive unemployment, food shortages, electrical rationing, fuel shortages, medical rationing all in effect. Not to mention rampant crime (all ready started), riots, mass incarcerations (executions?) of ordinary citizens opposed to the illegal communist regime now occupying our White House and Congress. Armed citizen and vigilante patrols in our neighborhoods because we will be on our own against the barbarians flooding our country and streets. If we cannot stop this communist death democrat onslaught against our country and against each and everyone of us then our future will be one of terror and enslavement.
Write your worthless republican congress critters, write your governors and urge them to band together with their fellow red states to resist every single illegal, unconstitutional law and degree. Urge them to refuse any federal funding which comes with giving control over anything in the State. It is now Midnight.
Usurper Biden and his fellow communists have come out in the open now and are telling us that they are going to take away every one of our God given freedoms and strip us of our hard earned wealth.
What will our lives be like a year from now? Two years?
Free America!
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
GO3 4/30/2021 10:14:41 AM (No. 771531)
Declare this....
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Dodge Boy 4/30/2021 10:17:28 AM (No. 771535)
FTA - "...seeking deep cuts to planet-heating emissions..."
I stopped there. The U.K.'s lefty Guardian, as usual.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
Strike3 4/30/2021 10:18:30 AM (No. 771538)
Way too practical, #6. You will never be a politician.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
hershey 4/30/2021 10:25:57 AM (No. 771544)
If he wants to cut back planet heating emissions maybe he should start with the mouths of Waters, AOC, Pelosi and the rest of them as well as his traveling by AF1 and all the black suburbans that follow him around when he is riding in The Beast....but no, it's do as I say not as I do....typical dumbo crap...and then there is Mattress Back, probably in AF2 with Suburbans visiting Cincinnati today to talk about public transportation..why doesn't she use it??? Oh, not good enough for her...wanker...
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
LC Chihuahua 4/30/2021 10:28:47 AM (No. 771549)
if asked why are they doing this, the answer would be 'it has to be done to save the planet'. They have not thought this out. Our country will turn into a prison and a wasteland with our 'leaders' out of sight and unreachable. Millions of businesses will be forced to shutdown. Hundreds of millions of people will be without work. The government will be unable to take care of everyone. They won't even try. The loss of life due to starvation and violence will be in the millions. And our 'leaders' response? It had to be done. All in the name of saving the planet. Europe might do the same thing, but the rest of the world? Nope. This is only aimed at the west proving it has nothing to do with climate change and everything to do with power.
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
stablemoney 4/30/2021 11:39:02 AM (No. 771593)
I have gone net zero on the number of Democrats in the U.S. by 2024. Every illegal allowed in should require 100 Democrats to leave the country. I think it is fair to have the illegals to take over the homes and jobs of the Democrats, and that they leave for Guatemala or elsewhere. So net zero for Democrats by 2024, or earlier.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
DVC 4/30/2021 11:52:23 AM (No. 771604)
This is not going to affect my driving.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
DVC 4/30/2021 11:54:57 AM (No. 771608)
I guarantee that I will never own a hybrid or electric vehicle.
My master's degree research in 1970s was in doing computer simulation of hybrid vehicles for design purposes, and we built a hybrid car and a hybrid bus at UF. I know a LOT about hybrids and electric vehicles, and helped a fellow grad student convert a small French car to electric during our spare time working on building and testing hybrid prototypes.
Not a chance I'll ever own one.
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Reply 23 - Posted by:
mc squared 4/30/2021 12:00:24 PM (No. 771611)
Biden Inc. knows it isn't to 'save the earth': it's to prevent our free travel. They will dictate where we live, where we go and how we get there. How else to keep a tax base from leaving the rotting, lawless, dangerous Democrat cities?
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Reply 24 - Posted by:
udanja99 4/30/2021 12:06:08 PM (No. 771616)
By 2030 we will have had civil war II and the outvcome of that will determine whether or not we are driving electric cars. Given the almost 500 million legal guns in the hands of private citizens, I predict that we’ll still be driving gasoline powered cars.
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Reply 25 - Posted by:
Jimmiet 4/30/2021 12:29:11 PM (No. 771637)
Where's Hillary?
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Reply 26 - Posted by:
Highlander 4/30/2021 12:33:25 PM (No. 771640)
Why, Oh Lord, is the left so obsessed with their fantasies?
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Reply 27 - Posted by:
Luke21 4/30/2021 12:39:35 PM (No. 771641)
I love these articles. Pressure from the far left maniacs cause this and that....
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Reply 28 - Posted by:
Phantomll 4/30/2021 12:42:58 PM (No. 771645)
Insanity prevails!
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Reply 29 - Posted by:
rbruce20 4/30/2021 12:57:43 PM (No. 771653)
Lead by example. Every vehicle, airplane, helicopter, and vessel in the executive branch must be electric powered. If Biden is unwilling to do it, why should we?
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Reply 30 - Posted by:
BarryNo 4/30/2021 1:02:25 PM (No. 771657)
If there is anything that will drive Americans into open, armed revolt, it is messing with their cars and their smokes.
But I have to ask why the Democrats are driving everyone into the corner?
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Reply 31 - Posted by:
bobn.t 4/30/2021 1:17:00 PM (No. 771668)
How long will my battery powered car run?
My gas powered Toyota will run for 7 hours on one tank of gas. Enough to get me to Albuquerque or Amarillo.
Somehow I don't think battery power works well out west where we have vast distances to cover.
NUTS
NUTS
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Reply 32 - Posted by:
bobn.t 4/30/2021 1:22:06 PM (No. 771671)
I've got it.
A super solar cell on top of my car and super powerful wind turbin too
Or maybe a dumbaspen demoncrap donkey to pull me.
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The increase in the price of a gallon of gasoline since January is a clear indication, graphic indication, of how much Biden has cost us. Prices have also gone up for groceries. These two are not the only costs to Americans for voting Biden into office.
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Reply 34 - Posted by:
DVC 4/30/2021 2:24:27 PM (No. 771727)
If they admit to be willing to take away everyone's cars to "save the planet", what else might the econazis be willing to 'take away' to "save the planet". Your house? Your pets? Your job....well we know that they'll do that, they are already doing that.
What about your life?
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Reply 35 - Posted by:
GoodDeal 4/30/2021 2:43:07 PM (No. 771736)
Pelosi has a major stock investment in Tesla and all supply chain vendors. So this has to pay off. She needs ice cream and another freezer.
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Reply 36 - Posted by:
24tea@Mag 4/30/2021 11:43:28 PM (No. 772101)
What about airplanes and boats, Joe?
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Reply 37 - Posted by:
ldb51 5/1/2021 1:31:19 AM (No. 772147)
I am wondering how the Dem's and His Excellency Biden think our military is going to conduct their grim but necessary duties without strong domestic sources of fossil fuels? I mean, after doubling the weight of a battle tank with explosive storage batteries and covering the entire surface with silicon cells just to keep our CCP suppliers happy, one of them ought to be able to run, say, 200 yards on a charge, before turning into a fixed gun emplacement (i.e., sitting duck).
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Reply 38 - Posted by:
MickTurn 5/1/2021 9:21:33 AM (No. 772335)
SO tell us this King Xiden...when all Gas and Diesel is gone what will power all the huge trucks/tractors/equipment that build everything? Oh, I got it, 3 AAA batteries...
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Another Executive Order? Drunk-on-power Uncle Joe may just try it.