Virginia Supreme Court rules Confederate
statues of Lee, Jackson can come down
Washington Times,
by
Alex Swoyer
Original Article
Posted By: Ribicon,
4/1/2021 12:44:49 PM
The Virginia Supreme Court ruled Thursday that Confederate statues of Robert E. Lee and Thomas “Stonewall” Jackson in Charlottesville can be removed, after a years-long legal battle involving attempts to preserve the historic Civil War memorials. Justice S. Bernard Goodwyn said the city of Charlottesville could take the statues down because a 1997 law protecting war memorials did not apply retroactively to statues erected before the law was passed. “In the present case, the statues were erected long before there was a statute which both authorized a city’s erection of a war memorial or monument and regulated the disturbance of or interference
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Ribicon 4/1/2021 12:46:00 PM (No. 741783)
Dwight D. Eisenhower: "General Robert E. Lee was… one of the supremely gifted men produced by this Nation… Through all his many trials he remained selfless almost to a fault and unfailing in his belief in God… he was noble as a leader and as a man, and unsullied as I read the pages of our history. I proudly display the picture of this great American on my office wall."
Winston Churchill: "Lee was the noblest American who ever lived and one of the greatest commanders known to the annals of war."
Booker T. Washington: "The first white people in America to exhibit interest in reaching the Negro and saving his soul in the medium of the Sunday-school were Robert E. Lee and Stonewall Jackson."
Field Marshall Viscount Sir Garnet Wolseley: "I believe all will admit that General Lee towered far above all men on either side… he will be regarded as the great American of the 19th century, whose statue is well worthy to stand on an equal pedestal with Washington, and whose memory is worthy to be enshrined in the hearts of all his countrymen."
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
MOBeef4u 4/1/2021 12:59:48 PM (No. 741798)
Yep, can’t rewrite history until you get rid of all vestiges of the real thing.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
Nimby 4/1/2021 1:00:01 PM (No. 741799)
What more can one expect of Bernard Goodwyn!! I am just surprised, he did not call of replacing them with BLM
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
stablemoney 4/1/2021 1:04:26 PM (No. 741804)
Glad the SC had time for this case --- but couldn't get to hearing the Texas case on the coup of the office of POTUS, which they must have thought not important.
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
columba 4/1/2021 1:04:53 PM (No. 741805)
Robert E Lee finished near the top of his classes at West Point and did not accept President Lincoln's offer that he command the Union Army. Lee instead plead loyalty to his home state of Virginia. That commonwealth is now showing its loyalty to General Lee..
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Michaelus 4/1/2021 1:08:53 PM (No. 741810)
Wow - so laws do not apply to things that existed before the law was passed. That means that any new gun laws cannot apply to your classic full auto Thompson submachine gun! Cool reasoning Judge.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Jesuslover54 4/1/2021 1:12:31 PM (No. 741813)
Like Philip Roth said, when the gentiles are good they're terrific.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
rabblerouser 4/1/2021 1:16:49 PM (No. 741818)
Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.- paraphrasing George Santanya (1905) quote
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
rochow 4/1/2021 1:28:16 PM (No. 741831)
Of course, Bernard goodwyn happens to be one of the community organizer punk's fellow brethren will soon have a statue of same erected! So much nobler, an undereducated POS!
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
bamapreacher 4/1/2021 1:29:38 PM (No. 741832)
Someone should point out to people in Virginia that their namesake, the Virgin Queen Elizabeth I, sponsored the slave voyages of John Hawkins because they enriched the treasury. Some moronic SJW is likely to call for the state to be renamed.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
Venturer 4/1/2021 1:46:25 PM (No. 741841)
Virginia. Who would have thought it would abandon it's heroes.
A State that has lost all interest in it's history and is filled with Foreigners of all sorts and come downers who moved in and turned it to Yankee South.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
GO3 4/1/2021 2:03:37 PM (No. 741855)
So by the judge’s reasoning, the Iwo Jima memorial in Arlington can come down, too. Man, I need to get off this bus.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
kono 4/1/2021 2:17:36 PM (No. 741867)
Of course, the law does not apply retroactively to statues TORN DOWN before it was enacted; but it should damned well apply to all statues that were present at the time it was enacted. The logic of the judge is f'd, in my view.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
davew 4/1/2021 2:30:26 PM (No. 741875)
History has its own trajectory and is written by the victors. In this case the victors are revisionist academics that want to replace the complex cultural evolution of Southern race relations with simplistic collective guilt. Lee and Jackson were heroes to the rebels because they opposed their Northern oppressors not because they defended slavery.
Who among the modern generation will be considered worthy of such admiration by the Southern people that they deserve a bronze statue? Stacy Abrams? Sheila Jackson Lee? Hillary Clinton?
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
montwoodcliff 4/1/2021 2:43:14 PM (No. 741886)
The judge pulled a Pontius Pilate on this one. Everyone should read Reply No.6
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
Skinnydip 4/1/2021 4:30:59 PM (No. 741940)
Sounds like an easily reversible verdict on appeal to SCOTUS. On second thought...
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
red1066 4/1/2021 4:52:11 PM (No. 741961)
Are they also going to tear down the Confederate White House that sits on the grounds of VCU hospital in Richmond? Maybe they don't even know it's there. It's kind of hidden behind and amongst hospital buildings and out of sight of the general public.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
JHHolliday 4/1/2021 5:26:11 PM (No. 741982)
"The first rule of history is that only a fool tries to judge the past through the lens of the present".
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
JL80863 4/1/2021 5:38:07 PM (No. 741987)
Civil War? Slavery?? What are you talking about? Had those things occurred there would be evidence. Reparations? For something that never happened?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
privateer 4/1/2021 7:03:09 PM (No. 742032)
New license plate slogan: 'Virginia is for Losers'
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
swarfer 4/1/2021 8:52:43 PM (No. 742100)
I was always proud to have been raised in Virginia many decades ago. In my travels I came to understand the vast difference in culture and personal values from most of the rest if the nation. Fortunately I saw the handwriting on the wall and eventually made my home elsewhere. I have fond memories but will never return.
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Pardon me while I cry. We settled in VA in 1623.
These statues represent, not only American history, founders and heroes of this country, but our ancestors.
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There are no gentlemen of the caliber of Lee or Jackson anywhere near the degenerate New Dominion. Swap them out for a bLACK trans-man or someone else more reflective of modern American values.