Minnesota Supreme Court Overturns Rape Conviction
Because the Woman Willingly Drank Alcohol
PJ Media,
by
Rick Moran
Original Article
Posted By: Dreadnought,
3/28/2021 12:01:49 PM
The Minnesota Supreme Court overturned the conviction of a man who picked up a woman outside a bar, took her home, and had sex with her. Under state law, since the woman drank the alcohol willingly, the man could not be charged with 3rd-degree criminal sexual misconduct.
The judges said the man could be charged with a gross misdemeanor — 5th-degree sexual conduct. The difference is that the 3rd-degree assault charge carries a sentence of 15 years in prison while the misdemeanor would put the man in jail for 1 year.
Naturally, many women are outraged at the Minnesota Supreme Court. In this case, the judge’s hands had been tied
Reply 1 - Posted by:
Californian 3/28/2021 12:08:01 PM (No. 737551)
Article does not say if she had half a drink and was legally sober or was falling down drunk which is clearly a situation where she can't give consent.
It matters. A lot.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Ida Lou Pino 3/28/2021 12:20:43 PM (No. 737560)
Quite frankly - - I sick of those amoral, boozy, good-time girls - - who wake up the next day and cry, "Rape!"
Don't go the sleazy bars - - don't get drunk - - don't have sex with someone you hardly know - - and poof! - - you won't have a problem.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
zephyrgirl 3/28/2021 12:28:47 PM (No. 737572)
The Minnesota Supreme Court didn't say the perp was innocent, just that the law as written didn't support the charge under which the perp had been convicted. Badly-drafted laws yield bad outcomes. The outrage should be directed at the Minnesota legislature that wrote and passed a flawed law.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
jimboscott 3/28/2021 12:30:48 PM (No. 737576)
If she voluntarily had half a glass of wine... or two bottles to herself, she still made decisions all on her own and the decision to impair her judgment is on HER.
If I get drunk and lose half my life savings in Las Vegas... do I get that back?
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Newtsche 3/28/2021 12:57:23 PM (No. 737605)
The legal limit isn't falling down drunk or passed out.
Any woman voluntarily tipsy or worse can be raped?
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FTA: "No woman ever 'asks for it' even if she gets falling-down drunk."
Au contraire. I have, over my growing number of years, indeed witnessed women explicitly "asking for it", many of them at least staggering drunk, if not falling-down. Let's stop being so naive in this age of EQUALITY. So now we create another law...let's call it the "It Don't Count if You're Intoxicated" law. Who are we protecting here? Certainly not the male half of this tango.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Strike3 3/28/2021 1:26:50 PM (No. 737641)
Do any of you know someone who drinks alcohol unwillingly? Except for the occasional shot that is tipped into the punch bowl, it's pretty much an action that is voluntary. However, how the alcohol gets there has very little relation to rape and the animal who raped her.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
DVC 3/28/2021 1:30:27 PM (No. 737644)
He said, she said, both drunk.....murky details that neither remember clearly.....and later SHE isn't happy with the situation that she willingly put herself into.
Maybe he went to far, maybe not. At this point, I think it is literally impossible to know.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
Luandir 3/28/2021 1:42:45 PM (No. 737658)
The article says that the woman was refused entry to a bar because she was already unacceptably drunk, That's when Francois Monulu Khalil moved in. A reasonable man would say that he was taking advantage of an impaired person, even though she had gotten that way by her own actions.
A law that allows Francois Monulu Khalil to skate under those conditions is bad law. Thank the Dem legislators for that - always looking out for the sexual predators.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
TLCary 3/28/2021 1:53:55 PM (No. 737672)
#9 He isn’t skating, he’s being charged with the proper crime. 15 years because the woman consented to getting smashed, consented to sex in the condition and position she chose to put herself in... might be a bit much considering the average punishment for murder is far less. Besides, we don’t know if she identified as a white man in her drunken state and he might have identified as trans once naked - it’s so hard to tell without any clothes on. In that case she would be guilty and zim zhe ? SheHe? Or whatever would be the victim.
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 3/28/2021 3:03:59 PM (No. 737722)
ANYONE who gets drunk in public is going to be at dramatically increased risk of some sort of "taking advantate of", whether it be robbery, rape or whatever.
It has never been a safe practice to go out and get drunk in public. Your ability to mentally judge the situation, and your physical ability to deal with any situation are dramatically impaired. Very much a non-survival strategy.
Geez, people, why is this difficult to see? I figured this out at age 18, as did most of my friends.
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