Reply 1 - Posted by:
snakeoil 1/8/2021 10:31:14 PM (No. 654032)
Noted plagiarist Quid Pro Joe dispensing hate which his feeble hoary mind thinks is logic. Time to get fresh batteries for all my remotes.
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Reply 2 - Posted by:
Heraclitus 1/8/2021 10:31:19 PM (No. 654033)
lunatic
He --they-- are following the universal pattern of totalitarian revolutions. They are moving fast. There is no moral restraint, no self-control once the taste of absolute power is in their mouths.
Some of us have been warning about this for years. Many have worried about big tech media becoming enforcers, the all-seeing eye of the all-powerful State, looking more and more like the CCP, where every move of a Chinese citizen is measured and catalogued, building a case (or not) for some kind of expulsion and punishment.
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Reply 3 - Posted by:
TXknitter 1/8/2021 10:37:44 PM (No. 654038)
Regular ordinary patriots and business owners have been abused and treated far far worse over the past four years. We have all read the stories. It would have been nice if our Republican Senators and Congressmen had done something or at least given it some attention. Yes, #2, good people tried to warn about what we see today for years.
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Reply 4 - Posted by:
Lawsy0 1/8/2021 10:42:07 PM (No. 654042)
Yo, Joe! Here's another quote from your precious Holocaust era, ''NEVER AGAIN!''
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Reply 5 - Posted by:
Mizz Fixxit 1/8/2021 10:43:42 PM (No. 654043)
A Biden “press conference:” He rambles through text his radical handlers loaded on the teleprompter. Then sputters replies to vetted questions. He is an empty suit. A blank slate.
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Reply 6 - Posted by:
Newtsche 1/8/2021 11:34:11 PM (No. 654082)
Cut gentle Joe some slack, his handlers wrote this stuff.
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Reply 7 - Posted by:
Italiano 1/8/2021 11:37:30 PM (No. 654084)
It's going to be fun watching him go down.
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Reply 8 - Posted by:
JimBob 1/8/2021 11:59:20 PM (No. 654102)
What are the odds that Dementia Joe will last 6 months before being declared 'mentally incompetent' and being thrown under and then RUN OVER by 'the Bus' driven by the KamelToe.
Personally, I think it will be either
-As soon as he takes office and can be replaced by The Ho, or
-After 2 years and ONE DAY, so that the remaining 2 years will not be counted as a 'First Term' of the Ho.
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Reply 9 - Posted by:
NYbob 1/9/2021 12:07:23 AM (No. 654108)
#8, you are right in theory, but there is no way, no medical miracle, that will keep biden from either stroking out or in a coma two years from now. He barely made it through the campaign. Even as a puppet the demands of the office will be far too much for this creep. According to a friend of mine.
Personally, I think he is the kind of savvy veteran of DC that everyone can trust. Ask Bernie if you don't believe me.
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Reply 10 - Posted by:
Blue Hen1 1/9/2021 12:46:11 AM (No. 654130)
Way to bring us together you moron
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Reply 11 - Posted by:
DVC 1/9/2021 1:34:46 AM (No. 654151)
Traitor Joe is accusing others of what he is doing.
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Reply 12 - Posted by:
Trigger2 1/9/2021 4:07:32 AM (No. 654225)
All of Biden's claptrap of healing the country just went out the window like the rest of his claptrap.
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Reply 13 - Posted by:
ldb51 1/9/2021 4:54:46 AM (No. 654233)
The man obviously has no grasp of what he is reading from the teleprompter, as he fumbles and stumbles and searches to force coherent words between his dramatically-clenched dentures. He is being used for his familiar face and as a nod to Obama. He displays the erratic anger fits, inappropriately aggressive tone and blank stare of a person in whom either senility or significant medication has completely fogged any rational thought.
Once Mr. Biden is sworn in, his handlers will probably soon start "forgetting" the meds that have kept him propped up during his rare and pointless appearances. In turn, I fear that the newbie Ms. Harris seems ripe for compromise. We may see her soon fall prey to some unfortunate "stories" or, better yet, pictures, of her prior life and questionable…"political" activities, and she also will go up in flames. She seems ripe for compromise; but G-d, her snotty attitude and arrogant expressive and speech patterns project everything loathsome in a human being, especially one within ten miles of a position of authority.
If you look for the hard-core, entrenched power focus in the new lineup, this kind of leaves Ms. "Come-down-to-Chinatown" Pelosi, doesn't it? Anybody ever raise an eyebrow at the adoring looks she was always giving our beta male Obama? How about the recent reports that the Buffalo Horn Man from the BLM/Antifa clubs and multiple protests - including at the Capitol - looks like he might be a friend of the Pelosi clan? Why is Ms. Nancy forever railing furiously, almost psychotically, at Trump, Pence and anyone who will listen about her impeachment fantasies? After her many strange utterances and odd behaviors in the last several years (honestly, tearing up the State of the Union in the House chamber?), does anyone actually believe that love of country is even a motive for her sorry soul? Or is she the Brutus in this situation, to Pres Trump’s Caesar (sorry about the image)?
Who else could gain here if anything against the Pres/VP, either Trump/Pence or Biden/Harris, were to bear fruit? Perhaps Obama gets drafted back into the executive branch to help finish the Marxist hatchet job he started on the country? Getting the government off the backs of the high-tech masters of the universe in Silicon Valley and elsewhere? The return of cash flow into the CCP coffers as the "Made in America" initiatives quietly vanish (that's certainly worth a few million $$ "donation" from the Chinese to, oh, I don't know... the "Biden Family", to quote some recent evidentiary e-mails?) And the extension of the CCP's tentacles even more rapidly into our culture, government and lives.
The way many of us see it, the Dem's declared war on the country, the Constitution and the American people when they decided, with or without outside persuasion, to hatch this election fraud business. They've been at it for decades, but this time they went after someone who was truly "woke" to what they were up to, and even more importantly, had the audacity and brashness to blast through the screen of BS to tell us about it. He tried to warn us, without violating Nat'l security and getting so graphic that no one would listen to the impossible truth.
Contrary to the narrative pushed by the arrogantly stupid/collaborative (pick one) media and running dog Dems, the mass of attentive Americans of all patriotic stripes responded to Trump and saw this quite clearly, and still watches the rapid progress of their game ("Progressive?") in horror. They tried this last week to call National attention to the coup… no, the murder of the American dream, that was going on in plain sight, by rising to the defense of Pres. Trump, and more specifically, the true, historical, vibrant America that had been seeing a heartening return.
The plan put together by the Left and Dem's took advantage of that event, and hijacked it with the help of their usual dog-pack of goons, and the support of other “interested” parties. They had to roll the dice and turn the multi-decade campaign into a hot war between factions, or they might lose their chance for the foreseeable future. They could not risk the mass of Americans having their eyes opened with a “red-pill” experience, so they arranged a riot to weave into and confuse the Capitol protest. We could plainly see on TV that the vast majority of the demonstration was almost self-consciously peaceful, until a few firebrands (including Buffalo Horn Man – gee, I wonder if he will be apprehended and prosecuted?) broke through and urged on others to follow. Of course, some always will – that’s the way crowds work when discipline fails. The giveaway was the ease and lack of resistance with which they penetrated the inner sanctum of America’s House…and, Presto, the Dem’s/Left had their poster images, triggers for public outrage and a fabricated framework of moral “high-ground”.
Unfortunately, now they have the Marxist dialectical tiger that their masters plotted by the tail, and they are captured by their own monster. The true stupidity, cowardice, arrogance and ambition of our “leaders” is on display as they rush headlong down the slippery slope, already starting to employ all of the hallmarks and cliches of every abusive and disgusting tyranny that ever moved to enslave a people. I am afraid we are all in for a serious world of suffering, both collectively and individually, if we do not get a handle on this absurd runaway train that the foul players in this last election have launched.
The evident smallness of our new “leaders” is clearly not up to the task, and high human cost and deep damage to the Nation seems almost certain. For example, it is already beginning to look like the Dems are going to totally lose control of the Covid-19 and vaccine situation that Pres Trump miraculously teed up for them, because key Dems and bureaucrats can’t seem to get their minds out of the favor and revenge mindset…these are truly incompetent and dangerous people we have set loose upon ourselves.
Did President Trump incite this situation? Not that I can tell – his sin was identifying the transgressions of the Left, and their enablers, that were catching the US in an historical undertow, as he frantically called it to our attention in his unique, if sometimes off-putting, style. If anything, he made the mistake of underestimating the power of a people devoted to their country and the potential of their anger if betrayed by feckless and faithless leaders. And, further, he did not count on just how cowardly, evil and treacherous his opposition was prepared to be. There are plainly villains and traitors at work here, if only we had the moral clarity of our forefathers to tell the difference and take action against them.
Pres Trump made the plain and accurate statement that the fate of America is in our hands, and that we, not Washington, are the masters of our destiny. The organized Left, and their Dem sycophants, have made careers out of treating American citizens like a servant class, and worse, doing their best to drive infantile dependency deep into the American psyche. If they couldn’t succeed with all, they were satisfied to settle for partitioning the people and using favor and blame to pit them against each other, to keep them occupied and inattentive, like fighting children. Politicians in general seem to have a fondness for this perversion of human maturity, but the Progressive Left has made it an art form.
So, back to the earlier question: who gains in all of this? In the short term, the political changes will create apparent winners among the politically savvy, who will gloat and bask in the outcome of this teachery against the American people. Some individual political actors may even get away with it if we let them. Watch them bang their gavels, do mock battle with each other and pontificate to the press about what they plan to accomplish “for the American people” (how lame we all find that phrase, since we know the middle finger is always coming). Interest groups among the public will suffer or prosper, depending on the whims of the masters pulling the strings. Large corporate interests, the communications tech geniuses that have helped reduce our population to warring camps and enabled a cloud of tyrannical control and misdirection to settle over our lives for the first time since our revolution – they will continue to consolidate and enrich themselves, so long as that control serves their foul purposes. Someday, though, we may see wars even among the tech’s – which should prove interesting, if not terrifying.
But it looks to me like America, as a cohesive, healthy union, will be pretty much rudderless, with the Left treating the Constitution as just an advisory note and the Bill of Rights in tatters, what remains of it. The country is in dire danger internally, and recovery for the Nation as a whole will be an incredible challenge. I do not believe that national recovery, or even “life support” sustenance, is a certainty in the near term, because I see no evidence that the leadership and policies about to be foisted upon us have either the will, focus or competence to accomplish it. The American people have allowed a true mortal sin to be committed against our country, Constitution, and legacy, and against our forefathers, citizens and children’s futures.
Given the proclivities of our leaders as they have shown in the past, including our new President and others at the top, the clear winner, and, I truly fear for the long term, is likely to be China and the CCP. We have proven sympathies and even admiration for them among our leadership, and I am sure the Chinese are not inclined to make “investments” and “donations” such as have been claimed here and there without assurances to go along with them. I fear what kinds of commitments we have made, and will make, to keep them happy. The plans and political aspirations of the American Progressive Left closely align with those proudly and coldly implemented by the ruling CCP, and I am sure the natural inclination of the Left toward measures of control and command will only take our country more in that direction. But first, they will have to make a lot of changes to trivial things like, say, the Bill of Rights, our social structure, and our memories and traditions. Watch for these changes, starting tomorrow. Think Hong Kong, camera surveillance everywhere, rewritten history books and school curricula, neighbors asked to report “crimes” that suddenly appear in new legislation, strange and unexplained official demands and pronouncements intended to change your daily behavior. Oh, wait…
Paradoxically, given the Establishment politicians’, and especially Dems’, tendency to try to play tough when it suits them politically, and their history of getting us hooked up with wars, I fear we are also in more danger of a conflict with either “Russia!” or China than we were 2 months ago. I don’t see anyone in the upper echelons of our new administration with the chops to go toe to toe in negotiations with either of those countries. Joe Biden? Ms Harris? Who are we kidding? Putin and Xi will both eat them alive, unless our leaders pull the nuke card out of desperate incompetence. And poor, addled Joe Biden, with one hand on the nuclear codes and the other on his meds bottle? OMG, I hope he will be able to tell the difference.
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Reply 14 - Posted by:
Timber Queen 1/9/2021 6:38:03 AM (No. 654254)
#13 - Paragraph breaks are your friend.
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Reply 15 - Posted by:
Condor44 1/9/2021 6:54:47 AM (No. 654263)
#13's comment should be a must read. #14, Don't be a Karen. It doesn't suit you.
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Reply 16 - Posted by:
maryann4629 1/9/2021 6:55:15 AM (No. 654264)
Can't wait til 2023 when we'll be able to impeach this moron.
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Reply 17 - Posted by:
mathman 1/9/2021 7:37:59 AM (No. 654292)
The Big Lie technique works. In 2016 we learned that Donald Trump was evil incarnate. The American people had the nerve (imagine!) to elect him. Horror!
The Democratic party returned to its roots: their goal is to elect people. Having failed to get votes, they decided to get ballots instead. So they used the Administrative State to buy hundreds of thousands of Dominion ballot counting and vote generating machines. Amazingly versatile, Dominion can change a sow's ear into a silk purse with a push of a button. Thought you voted for Trump? Surprise. You voted for Biden. Happened inside the black box. But it is done, the count cannot be appealed, your Biden vote stands. IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT YOU THINK. The Techs have won. The Techs need Red China, so that is who they work for. Red China already bought Biden. So don't give it another thought. Just study up on your Mandarin.
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Reply 18 - Posted by:
udanja99 1/9/2021 8:30:23 AM (No. 654343)
#15, #14 is correct. No matter how well written #13’s post is and how right on target, the way it is posted without paragraphs makes it very difficult to read. I gave up about halfway through. I would like the poster to re-submit it with paragraphs and proper punctuation.
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Reply 19 - Posted by:
TexaTucky 1/9/2021 9:19:13 AM (No. 654405)
LOL, you realize the irony in your scolding, don't you #15?
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Reply 20 - Posted by:
Edgelady 1/9/2021 9:28:24 AM (No. 654412)
It’s getting insane. For those who haven’t noticed before, they are showing their true colors.
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Reply 21 - Posted by:
ldb51 1/9/2021 2:12:43 PM (No. 654810)
I apologize. T.Q.'s point is taken. You can see by the time of posting that it was a long night, and I was very tired. I am reposting as requested, but I hope the moderators accept this. I help take care of a very dear friend who happened to spend his early childhood years in WWII German-occupied France, and who has since moved here and acquired US citizenship. He and his memories are quite graphic, specific and lucid. Stupid and self-serving political references to Nazis and insurrections and hardship carry little water with him, and we have spent many hours talking about these times, and those times. I was pondering during the night that my friend has become very concerned about what we are facing lately, and in fact has asked me to pull together some necessities for the near term. He is not panicked, just very concerned.
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The man obviously has no grasp of what he is reading from the teleprompter, as he fumbles and stumbles and searches to force coherent words between his dramatically-clenched dentures. He is being used for his familiar face and as a nod to Obama. He displays the erratic anger fits, inappropriately aggressive tone, and blank stare of a person in whom either senility or significant medication has completely fogged any rational thought.
Once Mr. Biden is sworn in, his handlers will probably soon start "forgetting" the meds that have kept him propped up during his rare and pointless appearances. In turn, I fear that the newbie Ms. Harris seems ripe for compromise. We may see her soon fall prey to some unfortunate "stories" or, worse yet, pictures, of her prior life and questionable…"political" activities, and she also will go up in flames. I just cannot believe how thoroughly and transparently her snotty attitude, arrogant demeanor, and condescending speech patterns project everything loathsome in a human being, especially one within ten miles of a position of authority.
If you look for the hard-core, entrenched power focus in the new lineup, this kind of leaves Ms. "Come-down-to-Chinatown" Pelosi, doesn't it? Anybody ever raise an eyebrow at the adoring looks she was always giving our beta male Obama? How about the recent reports that the Buffalo Horn Man from the BLM/Antifa groups and multiple protests - including at the Capitol - might be a friend of the Pelosi clan? Why is Ms. Nancy forever railing furiously, almost psychotically, at Trump, Pence and anyone who will listen about her impeachment fantasies? After her many strange utterances and odd behaviors in the last several years (honestly, tearing up the State of the Union in the House chamber?), does anyone actually believe that love of country is even a motive for her sorry soul? Or is she the Brutus in this situation, to Pres Trump’s Caesar (sorry about the image)?
Who else might gain here if anything against the Pres/VP, either Trump/Pence or Biden/Harris, were to get any impeachment traction? Perhaps Obama gets drafted back into the executive branch to help finish the Marxist hatchet job he started on the country? Getting the government off the backs of the high-tech masters of the universe in Silicon Valley and elsewhere would certainly be welcomed. The return of endless cash flow into the CCP coffers, as the "Made in America" initiatives quietly vanish? Definitely worth a few million $$ "donation" from the Chinese to, oh, I don't know... the "Biden Family", to quote some recent evidentiary e-mails. Not to mention the accelerating extension of the CCP's tentacles into our culture, government, and lives.
The way many of us see it, the Left/Dem's declared absolute war on the country, the Constitution, and the American people when they decided, with or without outside persuasion, to hatch this election fraud business. This is not simply a difference of opinion, as some weak apologists and academics would like to paint it. It is substantive and definitive. In times past we were clear-eyed and intelligent enough to call it out and mount a defense - but no more, it seems.
The American essence has “progressively” been watered down and redefined for the lowest common denominator almost everywhere we look. I know that last statement would be considered a “dog whistle”, but that expression in itself is also symptomatic. We are losing our “center” to reach to for common purpose and strength. Advocates of this process have been at it for decades, but this time they went after someone who was truly "woke" to what they were up to, and even more importantly, had the audacity and brashness to blast through the screen of BS to tell us about it.
He tried to warn us, without violating his obligations to Nat'l security and being so detailed and graphic that no one would listen to the impossible truth. Contrary to the narrative pushed by the arrogantly stupid/collaborative (pick one) media and the running-dog Dems, the mass of attentive Americans of all patriotic stripes responded to Trump and saw this quite clearly. They are still watching the rapid progress of the game ("Progressive?") in horror. They tried this last week to call national attention to the coup… no, the murder of the American dream, that was happening in plain sight, by rising to the defense of Pres. Trump. More specifically, they were trying to defend the true, historical, vibrant America that had been seeing a heartening return to life.
The plan put together by the Left and the Dem's took advantage of that event, and they hijacked it with the help of their usual dog-pack of goons, and support of other “interested” parties. They had to roll the dice and escalate their multi-decade campaign into a hot war between factions, or they might lose their chance for the foreseeable future. They could not risk the mass of Americans having their eyes opened with a “red-pill” experience, so they arranged a riot to weave into and confuse the Capitol protest.
We could plainly see on TV that most of the public demonstration was almost self-consciously peaceful, until a few firebrands (including Buffalo Horn Man – gee, I wonder if he will be apprehended and prosecuted?) broke through and urged on others to follow. Of course, some always will – that is the way crowds work when discipline fails, and the Left knows that very well. It is part of their catechism. The giveaway was the ease and lack of resistance with which they penetrated the inner sanctum of America’s House. A nudge here and there, and like magic, the Dem’s/Left had their poster images, triggers for public outrage and a fabricated framework of moral “high-ground”.
Unfortunately, now they have the Marxist dialectical tiger that their masters plotted by the tail, and they are captured by their own monster. The true stupidity, cowardice, arrogance, and ambition of our “leaders” is on display as they rush headlong down the slippery slope, already starting to employ all the hallmarks and cliches of every abusive and disgusting tyranny that ever moved to enslave a people. I am afraid we are all in for a serious world of suffering, both collectively and individually, if we do not get a handle on this absurd runaway train that the foul instigators and useful idiots in this last election have launched.
The evident smallness of our new “leaders” is clearly not up to the task, and a high human cost and deep damage to the Nation seems almost certain. For example, it is already beginning to look like the Dems are going to totally lose control of the Covid-19 and vaccine situation that Pres Trump miraculously teed up for them, because key Dems and bureaucrats cannot seem to get their minds out of the favor-or- revenge mindset they are always prone to. These are truly incompetent and dangerous people we have set loose upon ourselves.
Did President Trump incite this situation? Not that I can tell. His sin was identifying the transgressions of the Left, and their enablers, that were catching the US in an historical undertow, as he frantically called it to our attention in his unique, if sometimes off-putting, style. If anything, he made the mistake of underestimating the power of a strong people devoted to their country, and the potential of their anger if betrayed by feckless and faithless leaders. And, further, he did not count on just how cowardly, evil, and treacherous his opposition was prepared to be. There are plainly villains and traitors at work here, if only we had the moral clarity of our forefathers to sort them out and take appropriate action against them.
Pres Trump made the plain and accurate statement that the fate of America is in our hands, and that we, not Washington, are the masters of our destiny. The organized Left, and their Dem sycophants, have made careers out of treating American citizens like a servant class, and worse, doing their best to drive infantile dependency deep into the American psyche. If they could not succeed with everyone, they were satisfied to settle for partitioning the people and using favor and blame to pit them against each other, to keep them occupied and inattentive, like fighting children. Politicians in general seem to have a fondness for this perversion of human maturity, but the Progressive Left has made it an art form.
So, back to the earlier question: who gains in all of this? In the short term, the political changes will create apparent winners among the politically savvy, who will gloat and bask in the outcome of this treachery against the American people. Some individual political actors may even get away with it if we let them. Watch them bang their gavels, do mock battle with each other and pontificate to the press about what they plan to accomplish “for the American people”. How lame we all find that phrase, since we know the “middle finger” is always coming. Interest groups among the public will suffer or prosper, depending on the whims of the masters pulling the strings.
Big-money interests are stacking up at the government feeding trough, including over-committed unions and corporate powers like the communications tech geniuses who have helped reduce our population to warring camps, and who have enabled a cloud of tyrannical control and misdirection to settle over our lives for the first time since our Revolution. Without oversight, “high-tech” will continue to exploit their gifts to manipulate, consolidate and enrich themselves, so long as that control serves their “higher” motives. Someday, though, we may see wars even among the tech’s – which should prove interesting, if not terrifying.
The American people have allowed a true mortal sin to be committed against our country, Constitution, and legacy, and against our forefathers, citizens, and children’s futures. It looks to me like America, as a cohesive, healthy Union, will be pretty much rudderless in at least the near term, with the Left treating the Constitution as just an advisory note and the Bill of Rights in tatters, or what remains of it. The country is in dire danger internally, and recovery for the Nation will be an incredible challenge. I do not believe that national recovery, or even “life support” sustenance, is a certainty in the near term, because I see no evidence that the leadership and policies about to be foisted upon us have either the will, focus or competence to accomplish it.
Given the proclivities of our leaders as they have shown in the past, including our new President and others at the top, one clear winner is likely to be China and the CCP. Without some miraculous intervention or change of direction, I truly fear this will be for the long term. We have proven sympathies and even admiration for those people among our leadership, and I am sure the Chinese are not inclined to make “investments” and “donations” such as have been claimed here and there without assurances tied to them. I fear what kinds of commitments “we” have made, and will yet make, to keep them happy.
Unfortunately for us, the plans and political aspirations of the American Progressive Left closely align with those which are proudly and coldly implemented by the ruling CCP. I am sure the natural inclination of the Left toward measures of control and command will only take our country more in that direction. But first, they will have to make a lot of changes to trivial things like, say, the Bill of Rights, our social structure, and our memories and traditions. Watch for these changes, starting tomorrow. Think Hong Kong, camera surveillance everywhere, rewritten history books and school curricula, neighbors asked to report “crimes” that suddenly appear in new legislation, strange and unexplained official demands and pronouncements intended to change your daily behavior. Oh, wait…
Paradoxically, given the Establishment politicians’, and especially Dems’, tendency to try to play tough when it suits them politically, and their history of getting us hooked up with wars at every opportunity, I fear we are also in more danger of a conflict with either “Russia!” or China than we were 2 months ago. I do not see anyone in the upper echelons of our new administration with the chops to go toe to toe in negotiations with either of those countries. Joe Biden? Ms Harris? Who are we kidding? Putin and Xi will both eat them alive… unless our leaders go faux Rambo and pull the nuke card out of desperate incompetence.
And poor, addled Joe Biden, with one hand on the nuclear codes and the other on his meds bottle? OMG, I hope he will be able to tell the difference.
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Reply 22 - Posted by:
rochow 1/9/2021 6:05:55 PM (No. 655029)
Uncouth , uncultured and hugely undereducated Biden pedophile does not know much about Goebbels. This senile Alzheimer guy and his 'big lies, falsehoods' etc. will come back to bite him. AND big. If Sydney Powell goes to trial with the dominion people who want $1.5 bill. from her.
This time even 'the little people' who listen to the mainstream liar network will find out from experts what was done to and with machines!
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