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All 10 living former Defense Secretaries
deliver extraordinary warning to Trump
in scathing op-ed denouncing the prospect
of military involvement in election
dispute as 'dangerous, unlawful
and unconstitutional'

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Posted By: Ribicon, 1/4/2021 12:35:42 PM

All 10 living former Defense Secretaries have delivered an extraordinary warning to President Trump in an op-ed denouncing the possibility of the military becoming involved in the current election dispute. The piece was published in The Washington Post on Monday, following calls from some Trump supporters to invoke martial law in a bid to block Joe Biden from becoming the next Commander-in-chief.(Snip) The 10 living former Defense Secretaries listed as authors of the piece are Ashton Carter, Dick Cheney, William Cohen, Mark Esper, Robert Gates, Chuck Hagel, James Mattis, Leon Panetta, William Perry and Donald Rumsfeld.


All manner of military adventures in foreign lands, nearly all having almost nothing to do with the interests of the USA, are safe, lawful, and constitutional. Any hint of defending the nation against domestic enemies, possibly working in concert with foreign nations, is a grave danger to the republic.

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Reply 1 - Posted by: aasilver 1/4/2021 12:42:46 PM (No. 648799)
More swamp creatures showing their true colors.
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Reply 2 - Posted by: stablemoney 1/4/2021 12:43:52 PM (No. 648800)
Why are 10 former Defense Sec interfering in the election process? Trump has a right to review the vote counts, and so do the 74 million that voted for him. Why can't we see the ballots and check the machines? What are you hiding?
119 people like this.

Reply 3 - Posted by: bighambone 1/4/2021 12:47:26 PM (No. 648802)
President Trump is not about to do anything other than leave the White House in accordance with the US Constitution and the law on or before January 20, 2021 if Biden is to be inaugurated as President on that date. This Daily Mail secondhand report is no doubt just more misleading and/or fake news. All those Defense super bureaucrats are DC insiders trying to take a last shot at the ultimate DC outsider as he prepares to leave DC, at least until 2024.
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Reply 4 - Posted by: Proud Texan 1/4/2021 12:49:09 PM (No. 648804)
There sure are a lot of these past bureaucrats sounding to me like they are saying the deserve a rope for themselves, The more they scream "constitution!", the more it reminds me how they ignored the constitution over and over again themselves.
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Reply 5 - Posted by: earlybird 1/4/2021 12:50:16 PM (No. 648805)
What’s with the rounding up of 10 of these old hasbeens and 50 of that, bla bla bla….? There is nothing that special about any of them...
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Reply 6 - Posted by: less is more 1/4/2021 12:55:57 PM (No. 648808)
Hey former Defense Secretaries...election fraud/tampering/stealing is “dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional".
84 people like this.

Reply 7 - Posted by: GoodDeal 1/4/2021 12:58:57 PM (No. 648810)
Shut the hellup. Who asked you? Did Romney and Roberts put you up to this? More sensationalism designed to play around the clock on CNN and MSNBC to fuel the fires of ignorant stupidity amongst their loyal mind numbed droids.
49 people like this.

Reply 8 - Posted by: Attila DiMedici 1/4/2021 12:59:25 PM (No. 648811)
#6 posted what I was thinking when I saw this headline
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Reply 9 - Posted by: hershey 1/4/2021 1:00:09 PM (No. 648813)
Ah's just the WaPo looking for some more face time...ignore it...
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Reply 10 - Posted by: Periwinkel 1/4/2021 1:01:56 PM (No. 648815)
Never mind...just more self-serving drivel from the political generals promoted by Obama.
26 people like this.

Reply 11 - Posted by: earlybird 1/4/2021 1:02:43 PM (No. 648816)
I see names there that are absolutely appalling.
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Reply 12 - Posted by: anniebc 1/4/2021 1:02:54 PM (No. 648817)
Not a one of them can be trusted. Donald Rumsfeld should have just kept his mouth shut; he could have gone out differently, if he had. I don't give spit about the rest of them. Don, you're on a list with Leon Panetta and the highest ranking no longer a Marine Mattis. Shame on you!
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Reply 13 - Posted by: Bur Oak 1/4/2021 1:05:20 PM (No. 648819)
There is a reason the US can't win wars anymore. Listed in the article are ten of them.
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Reply 14 - Posted by: pixelero 1/4/2021 1:06:10 PM (No. 648820)
Yeah, I hate to say it, but this sounds more like CYA, than anything else. Truth be told, the untrustworthiness of the Deep State can probably be traced back to Woodrow Wilson.
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Reply 15 - Posted by: PlayItAgain 1/4/2021 1:06:13 PM (No. 648821)
These men owe us some answers about the vote fraud in seven states, Georgia and Pennsylvania in particular. It's telling that these cowards have nothing to say about that.
35 people like this.

Reply 16 - Posted by: BillW. 1/4/2021 1:06:21 PM (No. 648822)
Deep Staters can help dumping on the president. It's in their blood.
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Reply 17 - Posted by: Bur Oak 1/4/2021 1:07:49 PM (No. 648823)
Sorry for the second post. I've not seen a single instance of President Trump doing anything close to an unconstitutional act.
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Reply 18 - Posted by: passchendaele 1/4/2021 1:13:10 PM (No. 648829)
It's ok to wage war on Iraq, cuz democracy. Just don't fight for it here, cuz democracy. Bastards.
35 people like this.

Reply 19 - Posted by: hurricanegirl 1/4/2021 1:21:36 PM (No. 648832)
If Trump does leave office on Jan. 20th if Biden is "inaugurated" president on that date, then I for one will be EXTREMELY disappointed in him and will consider him the biggest traitor to America that ever lived.
10 people like this.

Reply 20 - Posted by: Quigley 1/4/2021 1:22:54 PM (No. 648835)
Did they warn him not to use the moon as a base of operations for any such endeavor? Did they warn him not to fly through the air in an effort to show people that he has magical powers and thus should be president? Did they write the article before 11 am while they were still sober?
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Reply 21 - Posted by: columba 1/4/2021 1:30:32 PM (No. 648841)
Why are articles from the UK paper allowed here?
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Reply 22 - Posted by: Butch 1/4/2021 1:31:07 PM (No. 648842)
Absurd. A weasly way to insult a president who has done his job well. Cheney would never been vice-president if the Republican Party hadn´t worked hard for him and W. Did any government official even mention the involvement of the military? No. The lefties are yammering about Trump interrupting the "peaceful transition of power" for no good reason. I say, have at it on Wednesday. May the winner take the oath.
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Reply 23 - Posted by: PlayItAgain 1/4/2021 1:32:05 PM (No. 648843)
When the Harris administration unconstitutionally weaponizes the IRS like the Obama administration did, I expect crickets from these sanctimonious guys. These men know that they are just tools right now. Willing tools. If there was ever a time for courage, this is it. It's difficult for me to keep from despising them right now.
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Reply 24 - Posted by: Geoman 1/4/2021 1:37:55 PM (No. 648846)
Dick Cheney kept GW's administration from being worse than what it was. I believe President Trump would have been better off with Cheney as VP rather than Pence. The current administration had the "Obama Marine" democrat running DoD and a RINO as SoS, both obstructing the president. It should be clear by now that even as they saw it coming, President Trump and his administration were unprepared for the depth of fraud that occurred in the 2020 election and could not develop a focused, effective plan on the fly to counter it. Wish it were otherwise.
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Reply 25 - Posted by: His_Highness 1/4/2021 1:43:51 PM (No. 648850)
The living defense secretaries are brain dead, complaining about something that is not going to happen.
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Reply 26 - Posted by: FormerDem 1/4/2021 1:43:56 PM (No. 648851)
He didn't intend to, but by warning him they got a headline. Can we have all living HHS secretaries issue a warning to Biden against pedophilia?
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Reply 27 - Posted by: TXknitter 1/4/2021 1:46:39 PM (No. 648852)
Its because #4, these “formers” are generally still connected to the Federal Deep State. They need to continually maintain cordial and cooperative public relationships with the DC establishment. Remember that many or all still have lobbying connections, sit even if in name only on various Boards for six figures OR have children/grandchildren/family sprinkled across the federal government agencies in good jobs. This unified declaration against Trump is yet another coordinated move to forge the false evil narrative that he is some creepy dictator.
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Reply 28 - Posted by: smokincol 1/4/2021 1:46:45 PM (No. 648853)
it's always 'dangerous, unlawful and unconstitutional' when a non-demcom does it, otherwise it's totally legit. these people make me sick. what's this list called "the usual suspects'? yup, you can count on one or all of them to act like playground bullies but they are wetting their undies with President Trump because he won't be intimidated and .... he fights back
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Reply 29 - Posted by: pros7767 1/4/2021 1:53:45 PM (No. 648856)
How many young men were killed defending this country under their "leadership"? I personally know two. All while James Biden's company received 1.5 billion to build 100,000 houses in Iraq... Liberal history may be kind to them but God...not so much!
20 people like this.

Reply 30 - Posted by: happywarrior 1/4/2021 1:55:04 PM (No. 648857)
All 10 of them can sod off!
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Reply 31 - Posted by: nina584 1/4/2021 1:55:54 PM (No. 648858)
Mark esper is a joke.He was just fired.
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Reply 32 - Posted by: Luke21 1/4/2021 2:00:47 PM (No. 648860)
Asspress scoundrels in the middle of it.
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Reply 33 - Posted by: Mofongo 1/4/2021 2:04:51 PM (No. 648864)
Excellent. It means Trump may be considering action.
7 people like this.

Reply 34 - Posted by: Dodge Boy 1/4/2021 2:04:59 PM (No. 648865)
Six of these are throwbacks. But, Dick Cheney, Cohen, Rumsfeld, and Bill Perry? Obviously none of these clowns know about the coup that happened on the night of November 3rd.
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Reply 35 - Posted by: Venturer 1/4/2021 2:14:49 PM (No. 648871)
But will Biden keep the military out of it when Conservatives finally get a bellyful and start taking the country back.
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Reply 36 - Posted by: Chuzzles 1/4/2021 2:16:40 PM (No. 648872)
Globalists and Swamp Rats all. Every single one of them. Embrace the fraud at your peril boys, for you are facing millions of angry voters.
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Reply 37 - Posted by: coyote 1/4/2021 2:20:52 PM (No. 648875)
But Trump didn't hint that, it was a plant. The president is just disputing the election outcome. Just as the Democrats have disputed every Republican National win for the past 40 years.
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Reply 38 - Posted by: Jesuslover54 1/4/2021 2:40:12 PM (No. 648895)
Trying to goad him and act like their opinion is his opinion. Won't fly.
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Reply 39 - Posted by: BarryNo 1/4/2021 3:02:38 PM (No. 648913)
All ten living defense secretaries are members of the DC Establishment, in other words, the Swamp. Be glad to include their behinds while cleaning house.
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Reply 40 - Posted by: mathman 1/4/2021 3:09:19 PM (No. 648920)
Right. 10 members of the Deep State sign a letter saying that the Deep State should keep power. We have been under the authoritarian rule of unelected bureaucrats since 1933. It is time to stop. The entire apparatus of boards, commissions, directorates, and so on MUST STOP. The Department of Defense is an integral part of the Deep State. So: no surprise.
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Reply 41 - Posted by: Hermit_Crab 1/4/2021 3:23:20 PM (No. 648928)
All ten living former Defense Secretaries are globalist warmonger deep state profiteers, and 3/4 of them are outright marxists. Their opinions are as important to me as that of the cockroaches.
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Reply 42 - Posted by: Scribelus 1/4/2021 3:32:18 PM (No. 648933)
Apparently there was insufficient time to enlist the dead SecDefs, which is a normal Democrat procedure.
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Reply 43 - Posted by: Amanoftwistsandturns 1/4/2021 4:21:40 PM (No. 648978)
A true Rogue’s Gallery if ever one existed. If they wish to view their mistakes Arlington National Cemetery is open from 8-5 daily .
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Reply 44 - Posted by: Sully 1/4/2021 4:29:05 PM (No. 648982)
Well President Trump called the claim he was considering martial law fake news so, not sure what these old nags are braying about. You know what none of these 10 said: "we have moved Israel's embassy Jerusalem." Also, "we have reached a peace deal between Israel and UAE." Aren't these the guys who got us into World War Forever?
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Reply 45 - Posted by: oldmagnolia 1/4/2021 5:24:20 PM (No. 649021)
More traitors to the country. They should be called back to active duty, arrest them for treason, take away rank, pension and all the other goodies, and put in front of a firing squad.
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Reply 46 - Posted by: DogFacedPonySoldier 1/4/2021 5:49:59 PM (No. 649050)
They're all inside the beltway, grifters and influence peddlers and they're Democrats or RINOs
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Reply 47 - Posted by: DVC 1/4/2021 5:58:27 PM (No. 649062)
Would that our military would honor their vows to 'support and defend the Constitution' and use military force to cause another election and make it a fair one.
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Reply 48 - Posted by: rochow 1/4/2021 6:11:29 PM (No. 649074)
Of course Cohen would object. He is very busy doing business with China, has 2 offices over there. Why should he be the only one cashing in selling our secrets, even Mattis is always on the lookout for more money. As to the rest of them....I doubt they have altruistic motives!!!!!!
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Reply 49 - Posted by: Strike3 1/4/2021 7:23:43 PM (No. 649126)
None in that bunch is worth a damn, let alone deserving anybody's attention. Yes, the democrats are very concerned about things being lawful and Constitutional. We out here no longer are.
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Reply 50 - Posted by: anonymous 1/4/2021 7:30:02 PM (No. 649130)
But these ex-military chiefs are happy to go along with foreign incursions that have nothing to do with defending US soil.... There can't be anything more precious at the political level than defending the integrity of the voting system, and this is something that the ex-chiefs should note. The US Supreme Court should understand this too, but I fear it has become something of a court that defers to convenience, sort of like "it's all done now, and it's not worth pursuing".
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Reply 51 - Posted by: beca 1/4/2021 11:04:00 PM (No. 649258)
There is stuff here all the time from the UK. I never believe anything they say..,
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Reply 52 - Posted by: Mauigirl 1/4/2021 11:42:53 PM (No. 649279)
Dick Cheney and Rumsfeld are known anti-American communists. Definitely not populists.
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Reply 53 - Posted by: XCenturion 1/5/2021 1:02:43 AM (No. 649320)
Unless they know something we don't, who the hell said Trump was planning on deploying the military? Since when does assuring that illegal votes aren't counted become a military matter? Swamp creatures all of them.
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Reply 54 - Posted by: ColonialAmerican1623 1/5/2021 2:13:00 AM (No. 649337)
How soon Washington forgets All Gore and hanging chads or Shillary's revenge for losing twice. When they go against Trump, they spit in our eyes too.
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Reply 55 - Posted by: skacmar 1/5/2021 4:00:16 PM (No. 649766)
So the former Sec. of Defense are saying don't do something that Trump has not even talked about. It seems to me that the only ones who have even suggested that Trump may impose martial law are Democrats, never Trumpers, and the media (who would love for that to happen). Why would they even write this op-ed condemning something that Trump will not do but Trump's enemies have projected onto him? Pres. Trump apparently made a lot of enemies among the swamp dwellers over the past 4 years.
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Reply 56 - Posted by: danu 1/5/2021 10:01:09 PM (No. 649971)
a rogues' gallery. see also: the vigano' interview
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President Biden on Monday seemed to forget Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin’s name at a White House event—calling the Pentagon chief “the guy who runs that outfit over there.” Biden was announcing the nomination of two female generals to lead US military combatant commands. “And I want to thank the sec—the, the, ah former general. I keep calling him general, but my, my—the guy who runs that outfit over there,” Biden said.(Snip) Earlier at the event, Biden mentioned the Defense Department leader by his name, “Secretary Austin,” while appearing to read from a teleprompter.
Oprah interview bombshells: Meghan claims
she was suicidal when she was five months
pregnant, Kate made HER cry and Royals
refused to make Archie a prince because
they were worried how 'dark' he would be
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Posted by Imright 3/8/2021 8:21:02 AM Post Reply
The Royal Family was left reeling this morning after Meghan Markle tearfully revealed that the stress of royal life made her suicidal when she was five months pregnant, claimed Archie was denied the title of prince because he is mixed-race and said Kate Middleton made her cry before she married Harry in a bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey.The couple also chose to reveal that they are having a baby girl to the tens of millions of people watching the CBS show broadcast in the US before accusing the Royal Family of racism and revealing the deep rift 'Megxit' has caused with Prince Charles and Prince William.
Meghan Markle openly
accuses the Royals
of racism
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Posted by Magnante 3/8/2021 5:26:07 AM Post Reply
I’m probably second to none in my dislike for Meghan Markle. There’s something unattractive about a mature woman marrying into the British Royal family with one of the world’s most expensive weddings, hanging out with the Queen, living in insane luxury…and then whining non-stop about the horror of her life. There’s something even less appealing when that woman accuses the Royal family of race hatred. And the problem is that, when it comes to that left-wing diva, Meghan Markle, it’s hard to believe most of what she says. After weeks of hype, CBS finally televised Meghan Markle and Prince Harry’s interview with Oprah.
Watch: John Solomon Gives Stunning Update
in Durham’s ‘Russiagate’ Investigation
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Posted by Imright 3/8/2021 4:56:55 PM Post Reply
Without question, the vast majority of Americans who support former President Donald Trump were angry and frustrated throughout 2020 passed with barely a mention of then-U.S. Attorney John Durham’s criminal investigation into the FBI’s fraudulent “Russiagate” counterterrorism operation directed at his 2016 campaign.In the weeks before the November election, word got out that then-Attorney General William Barr wasn’t going to announce any indictments or even a report on Durham’s investigation because he did not want to influence the outcome.So far, in fact, the only indictment to come out of the Durham probe is that of former FBI lawyer Kevin Clinesmith, who essentially got a slap on the wrist
Democrats renew calls to remove
J. Edgar Hoover's name from FBI building
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Posted by Ribicon 3/8/2021 2:56:29 PM Post Reply
Rep. Steve Cohen vowed to renew the push to remove former FBI Director J. Edgar Hoover’s name from the bureau’s downtown Washington headquarters, according to an interview released Monday. Appearing on Yahoo! News’ Skullduggery podcast, the Tennessee Democrat said the effort is getting a fresh look after the release of a new movie highlighting the FBI’s secret program to discredit civil rights activists. The Washington Times in 2019 first reported Democrats’ bid to strip the longtime FBI director’s name from the bureau’s headquarters. Mr. Cohen said the impetus to revive the bid is the new movie, “Judas and the Black Messiah.” The movie details
Jill Biden, the Meghan Markle
in the WH, is egregiously
guilty of elder abuse
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Posted by Magnante 3/9/2021 4:40:38 AM Post Reply
“There must have been a moment, at the beginning, when we could have said –-no. But somehow we missed it.” Tom Stoppard The millions of Americans who were paying attention throughout the 2020 election campaign all became painfully aware of the fact that Joe Biden’s cognitive abilities were slipping and slipping fast. His wife, as the person closest to him, should have been the one to call the campaign quits in order to reduce stress on the man. Instead, apparently so anxious to become the First Lady by any means necessary, Mrs. Biden continued to push her failing husband’s campaign forward as if he were mentally qualified.
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